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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I hope that all subsequent films exist to exhaustively document the parentage of every single TFA character. You do seem to be a big fan of the PT, so I'm not surprised.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:27
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Vegetable posted:Okay. Maybe that's what's fueling rumors about Ors being the mother of Rey. Yeah, mighty suspicious to have a new film feature a woman about Luke's age when Rey is almost certainly Luke's daughter and everyone's gonna want to know who her mother is
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Apr 7, 2016 21:28
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Homework Explainer posted:williams has been phoning it in for a while imo I'll give him a pass, because literally anything he touched during the 70's and 80's is magical.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:28
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Entropic posted:I felt like Williams kind of phoned in in on Episode VII. I mean, ok it's a matter of taste and opinion, but Rey's Theme is the stand out piece on the entire TFA soundtrack! From the extras Williams didn't look or seem like he was phoning it in. In fact he seemed very involved and passionate about his work in this movie, but of course he's getting older and maybe that has an effect on how much of himself he can put into a thing these days.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:30
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Homework Explainer posted:williams has been phoning it in for a while imo He's like 85 years old with a shelf full of oscars, he's goddamn earned the privilege of phoning it in a bit. I don't think anyone can really be mad at him for resting on his laurels.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:30
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Harry Potter is the last great score I can think of.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:31
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AndyElusive posted:I mean, ok it's a matter of taste and opinion, but Rey's Theme is the stand out piece on the entire TFA soundtrack! From the extras Williams didn't look or seem like he was phoning it in. In fact he seemed very involved and passionate about his work in this movie, but of course he's getting older and maybe that has an effect on how much of himself he can put into a thing these days. Rey's theme was really cool and I enjoyed Jedi Steps, but the rest of the music, particularly the march themes, was forgettable. Nothing with the force of the droid deployment track from TPM or Battle of the Heroes
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Apr 7, 2016 21:32
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Entropic posted:I felt like Williams kind of phoned in in on Episode VII. I really gotta disagree. I love Rey's theme & you should look up some of the analysis people have done on the VII score with how it syncs up with his earlier work. I'm not a composer/music theory expert but smarter people than I have mentioned how Williams specifically crafted the VII soundtrack to complement the OT/PT. Plus cmon dude, Reys theme owns. When Finn is running towards Kylo's ship on Takadonna and Reys theme comes in and hes screaming it fucken owns. Kylo's motif is really cool as well. Like its hard to compete with having 30 years of THE IMPERIAL MARCH to chew on, but I think Williams did very good in TFA.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:32
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I think Williams work on TFA is his best since Tintin (The Adventure Continues gets stuck in my head ALLL the time). He has introduced a new theme for every major new character (Rey, Ren, Poe and Finn). While none of them, except Rey, get a dedicated track on the soundtrack, he has balanced the new themes really well with the plethora of old themes as well. As the movies progress, I am sure the new themes will start to take more of a centerpiece than the old themes did, just like the new characters will be replacing the old. Personally, I am a big fan of Poe's leitmotif and I would love to hear a full track dedicated to it. It's the most star warsy sounding thing since the OT (and I think a lot of the PT music is great).
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i forget where i specifically heard it said but no one — with few exceptions — works in the film industry, from the big franchise tentpoles down to straight-to-vod "b" schlock, without being one hundred percent committed to Making Good Things. whether that actually happens is for us, the viewing public, to decide, but everyone works hard and everyone wants the end product to be something they're proud of. there are a lot of reasons why this doesn't happen, but it's rarely from lack of effort
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Apr 7, 2016 21:34
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turtlecrunch posted:You do seem to be a big fan of the PT, so I'm not surprised. The prequels only tell us Leia's biological mother, and provide the twist that the 'maker' C3PO refers to is almost literally Jesus Christ. I guess Boba Fett's dad is shown too, but the point is that there is no 'who are Rey's parents???' pseudo-mystery.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:35
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Entropic posted:I felt like Williams kind of phoned in in on Episode VII. He was honest that he wasn't interested in making something memorable, nothing on the same level as Imperial March, or Tales of a Jedi. The documentary has an interview where he talks about his musical choices for TFA and they are all really good and compliment the movie perfectly. So they don't have to be memorable or stand on their own.
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Homework Explainer posted:williams has been phoning it in for a while imo I really liked his new character themes.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:36
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Kylo Rens motiff is essentially this and that kind of owns tbqh.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:36
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euphronius posted:I really liked his new character themes. don't get me wrong, i thought the score was fine. in a sense it's the perfect scoring for tfa, no bold strokes or anything resembling a dangerous choice
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Apr 7, 2016 21:37
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Jedi Steps is phenomenal l, I liked the TFA version of the opening theme. Rest of it was fine. Nothing bad, just fine. Oh, that reggae sounding song at the cantina-esque scene was pretty rad.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:40
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BigglesSWE posted:Oh, that reggae sounding song at the cantina-esque scene was pretty rad. that was lin-manuel miranda
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Apr 7, 2016 21:41
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Rey's theme is awesome, Kylo's theme is awesome, Jedi steps is awesome, that's three brand new themes right there, and great use of the original themes, which makes sense in a movie that is supposedly the "bridge" to a new generation of characters and stories.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:42
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berserker posted:Rey's theme is awesome, Kylo's theme is awesome, Jedi steps is awesome, that's three brand new themes right there, and great use of the original themes, which makes sense in a movie that is supposedly the "bridge" to a new generation of characters and stories. Don't forget about the Resistance march theme.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:43
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BigglesSWE posted:Oh, that reggae sounding song at the cantina-esque scene was pretty rad. It was no Lapti Nek, but it was still good.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:43
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I don't even remember any of the new themes from watching the movie. They should have written something massive and iconic to kickstart a new trilogy.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:44
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I may or may not be listening to Jedi Rocks right now... GOON E TAY, AHH!!
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Going to watch TFA with someone who has never seen it before tonight, I will let you know how much they criticize it for being recycled politically correct millennial poodooJerkface posted:GOON E TAY, AHH!!
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Apr 7, 2016 21:46
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CHIKA MANKEY HAAAAAAAAAAY
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Apr 7, 2016 21:46
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This is a cool compilation of all the Reys theme stuff in the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jahk6xDGKRY I really think Reys theme is truly great. It joins all the other classic star wars riffs that I get pumped / emotional for when I hear them pop up during the movie. Here is the thing with Rey's theme intertwining with The Force Theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJpmMwrabo
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Apr 7, 2016 21:55
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To be clear, "not as iconic or memorable as the OT score" is not exactly a damning indictment. Most movie composers would kill to have their best work be as consistently good as what a tired old John Williams churns out on an off day.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:56
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jivjov posted:Don't forget about the Resistance march theme. The Resistance theme is trying so hard to be an Indiana Jones march that it hurts. It's my one disappointment with the score. The three other pieces mentioned though, Rey's Theme, Jedi Steps and to a lesser extent Kylo's are all fantastic.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:57
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Reys theme is good but I'm phoning in to say Jedi steps is amazing and so perfect at that point in the movie. John Williams owns the gently caress out of soundtracks
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Apr 7, 2016 21:58
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This is badass.
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Apr 7, 2016 22:03
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I keep seeing reference to Vaders breathing in the R1 trailer but I cant pick up on it at the 1:25-1:28 mark. Using some crappy stereo headphones with no other speakers at the moment.
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Apr 7, 2016 22:19
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MrBigglesworth posted:I keep seeing reference to Vaders breathing in the R1 trailer but I cant pick up on it at the 1:25-1:28 mark. Using some crappy stereo headphones with no other speakers at the moment. It's a very soft "end of his exhale" sound, so I am not sure whether I am imagining it
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Apr 7, 2016 22:21
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Vader is obviously going to make an appearance, come on. And it will probably be spoiled in the next trailer.
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Apr 7, 2016 22:21
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I had no idea this trailer was coming today. Holy poo poo.
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Apr 7, 2016 22:23
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Didn't James Earl Jones straight up say, "im in this".
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:complicate or expand the story of Star Wars, BravestOfTheLamps posted:complicates or expands the story BravestOfTheLamps posted:"complicate or expand the story..." BravestOfTheLamps posted:complicate or expand the story. BravestOfTheLamps posted:complicate or expand the story holy poo poo you are the most insufferable first year film student on this forum Kly fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Apr 7, 2016 22:33
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I liked TFA but I also liked the prequels for the many reasons discussed in CineD that make them greater than the sum of some of their lackluster parts. Star Wars was always going to live on beyond George Lucas and here we are. It's going to be different for sure. Better in some ways, a little worse in others. I didn't care for the ANH rehash that TFA was but I absolutely loved the new characters and want to see more of them in the coming films. I also have to give a hearty laugh to folks who are concerned with all these new star wars movies going to be hitting each year. Guess what? Star Wars is finally becoming the sci fi pulp serial it was originally designed to mimic. I for one am willing to embrace a star wars universe in which Donnie Yen expertly hits storm troopers with a staff and Forest Moon Whitaker Ghost Dog growls at the screen. Besides, we already got "more" star wars way back in the day with the Ewok movies that no one wants to admit exists. I don't give a poo poo what anyone says, Wilford Brimley is canon to the Star Wars saga, goddamnit. G-III fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Apr 7, 2016 22:40
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Kly posted:holy poo poo you are the most insufferable first year film student on this forum What's so bad about wanting a sequel feature something new
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:What's so bad about wanting a sequel feature something new Or something that complicates and expands the story?
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