Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 5: ITS TIME

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Waffleman_: Jan 20, 2011; I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I did the thing.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:06

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 10:36

Okuyasu Nijimura: May 31, 2015

Blue Nation posted:

Everything was perfect, and the savage garden song took me back to my highschool years.

Yeah, the morioh crew is actually my age so savage garden is my high school experience, haha

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:08

Dias: Feb 20, 2011; by sebmojo

Waffleman_ posted:

I did the thing.

Syncs perfectly, it's a pity that they couldn't cinch the rights for the song in time.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:09

Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

Dias posted:

Syncs perfectly, it's a pity that they couldn't cinch the rights for the song in time.

We must be back hunting DIO cos I can see denial

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:13

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

Waffleman_ posted:

I did the thing.

it works so well...

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:13

Jymmybob: Jun 26, 2000; Grimey Drawer

Waffleman_ posted:

I did the thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3zGqDmwj_A

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:13

Arsonist Daria: Feb 27, 2011; ^{Requiescat in pace.}

That OP is loving fire.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:26

Miley Virus: Apr 9, 2010

Josuke Higashikata posted:

The scene transitions in this episode are a cut above basically everything.
They're ridiculous.

https://zippy.gfycat.com/TerrificFinishedKagu.webm

Miley Virus fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 8, 2016

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:33

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

David blew the whole budget on these transitions, the next episode is Araki reading the manga

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:40

Arcanen: Dec 19, 2005

Jesus, Araki really does hate dogs.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:40

Dias: Feb 20, 2011; by sebmojo

Speculation: Jotaro wears a white hat now because he started going grey early.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:42

Gyro Zeppeli: Jul 19, 2012; sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Holy poo poo what a loving amazing episode.

This show is the loving best, and I'm immediately remembering why Pt4 is my favourite.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:43

Johnny Joestar: Oct 21, 2010; Don't shoot him?

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i love how this season already has a super distinct feel compared to the ones before it. it's incredibly fitting, and i can't wait to see if they edit more into the OP/ED as time goes along.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:43

Okuyasu Nijimura: May 31, 2015

Can we talk about Oh! That's A Baseball

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:46

Arsonist Daria: Feb 27, 2011; ^{Requiescat in pace.}

Okuyasu Nijimura posted:

Can we talk about Oh! That's A Baseball

Do you think Oh! That's A Baseball 64 requires the expansion pack?

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:47

Xelkelvos: Dec 19, 2012

Am I missing something? Because I'm not feeling the ED song even though it seems to be satisfying to everyone else.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:47

Blueberry Pancakes: Aug 18, 2012; Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Shakugan posted:

Jesus, Araki really does hate dogs.

Until the Let's Read thread covered that part, I had honestly forgotten about that scene. :allears:

Okuyasu Nijimura posted:

Can we talk about Oh! That's A Baseball

Was it just me, or was Atum still throwing the pitch?

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:47

RubberLuffy: Mar 31, 2011

The OP and ED are so loving on point, I just wanna peak into the future and see what they choose for Parts 5 and 6. oh my god it's gonna be so good.

Also Angelo got loving rocked this episode. Nice job picking a fight against TWO Joestars.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:49

Gyro Zeppeli: Jul 19, 2012; sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

RubberLuffy posted:

The OP and ED are so loving on point, I just wanna peak into the future and see what they choose for Parts 5 and 6. oh my god it's gonna be so good.

Also Angelo got loving rocked this episode. Nice job picking a fight against TWO Joestars.

I totally forgot about both ways Josuke caught Aqua Necklace.

Both are hilarious and disgusting.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:50

Arsonist Daria: Feb 27, 2011; ^{Requiescat in pace.}

Xelkelvos posted:

Am I missing something? Because I'm not feeling the ED song even though it seems to be satisfying to everyone else.

I had literally never thought of the song after the year 2000 but it was big at the time.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:50

HellCopter: Feb 9, 2012; College Slice

Xelkelvos posted:

Am I missing something? Because I'm not feeling the ED song even though it seems to be satisfying to everyone else.

I think it's some sort of 90's nostalgia effect? I thought it was kinda boring and the lyrics don't fit the arc or characters at all :shobon:

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:50

Johnny Joestar: Oct 21, 2010; Don't shoot him?

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also i hope the anime-only people notice that right from the beginning angelo was a villain with actual character despite only being there for an episode or so. that trend carries on throughout this entire arc and the ones afterwards as well, for the most part.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:51

Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

Okuyasu Nijimura posted:

Can we talk about Oh! That's A Baseball

I like to interpret it as david being passive aggressive about F-Zero being killed off.

Xelkelvos posted:

Am I missing something? Because I'm not feeling the ED song even though it seems to be satisfying to everyone else.

It's a nice song, the visuals are superb (Lisa Lisa eyes on a soon to be relevant sign!, all the Josuke bits), it's not All Star, it came out of left-field, it defies expectation. It's perfect in the same way Last Train Home was despite not being a similar song at all.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:52

Expect My Mom: Nov 18, 2013; by Smythe

Bad Seafood has made a really good post about Angelo and N'Doul are functionally the same character, but Angelo has a lot more Character behind him and interacts with the world around him realistically which is basically how Part 4 operates. I'll try and find it and quote it here later on unless someone beats me too it.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:57

HellCopter: Feb 9, 2012; College Slice

Superb? It's a flyby of a 3-d model while concept art awkwardly scrolls towards you. I get that it's a cool town and *colors* but it's kinda lazy looking.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:57

Xelkelvos: Dec 19, 2012

Josuke Higashikata posted:

It's a nice song, the visuals are superb (Lisa Lisa eyes on a soon to be relevant sign!, all the Josuke bits), it's not All Star, it came out of left-field, it defies expectation. It's perfect in the same way Last Train Home was despite not being a similar song at all.

The visuals are always on point, but at least with Last Train Home, there was at least a thematic connection in the song (Roundabout wasn't really all that on point either, but they made up for it by using its lead in at dramatically opportune moments). This one, I'm not quite getting.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:58

Waffleman_: Jan 20, 2011; I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Yes, as compared to the wonderful previous EDs which were not almost all pans on still images.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 19:59

Johnny Joestar: Oct 21, 2010; Don't shoot him?

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the ED song is really good and works well as a first season kind of thing. it's pretty lowkey, and it's not like the lyrics of the other ED songs were super fitting unless someone considers a mention of the word 'stand' in a completely out of context way as one. walk like an egyptian was about egypt...and not really much else.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:00

hoobajoo: Jun 2, 2004

Stand by REM

I made the best ED you guys.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:00

ChaosArgate: Oct 10, 2012; Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Here's the Bad Seafood post about Angelo.

Bad Seafood posted:

So Angelo! Let's talk about Angelo...by going into the paaaaaaaast and talking about somebody else. We'll get back to Angelo though, I promise.

So this dude here is N'Dour. Or N'Doul, I guess. N'Doul is probably more accurate, I'm just stuck in my ways (I still call Esidisi "ACDC").

N'Dour has a lot in common with Angelo. Both of them are criminals who murder and steal to get what they want. Both of them have water stands. They're pretty dangerous guys. N'Dour tends to be a lot more popular than Angelo though, which makes sense. Angelo's a punk and a pedophile, whereas N'Dour has this mysterious dignity about him. He's a bad guy, yeah, but he rocks the blind warrior thing while possessing a philosophical disposition. Personally I think he's super cool.

He's also fanatically devoted to Dio, which is why he's camped out here waiting for the Joestars to arrive. Camped out in the middle of the desert. Must've taken awhile though, waiting for them to arrive. What're you up to N'Dour? What's cracking? What does a guy like you get up to when Lord Dio's enemies aren't around?

...Not much I take it. Well I guess that makes sense. Guy's blind and on guard duty, so he really doesn't need a distraction from his all-important job. The desert isn't exactly a pleasant place to be though. How long has he been out here? Where are his supplies? Presumably he'd need to be eating or drinking something to last this long in the hot Egyptian sun.

Nothing. I guess you could convince me he set up camp or something off-panel but the guy's already hidden away and, most importantly, blind. I think he'd keep the goods close by for easy access.

This is one of the things I'm talking about when I say that Part 3 feels very "Video gamey." You've got a lot of bad guys who are just "Around" without much thought for how they got there or who they are when they're not hunting down the Joestars. Personally I don't mind it - in a way it enhances the theatrical nature of things - but for a lot of people it can feel really artificial. How'd he get out here, waiting in such proximity to where the Joestar boys emerged from their sunken submarine? Out of every Pakistani town, how'd Steely Dan pick the one he was sure our heroes would come to after taking care of Enya?

What was Vanilla Ice's job before he became Dio's biggest fan?

Like I said, I don't mind that Araki doesn't really expand on these things. Vanilla Ice is clearly designed to be menacing, and perhaps make the reader slightly uncomfortable, and he succeeds. I have no beef with this fighting game character design philosophy that prioritizes aesthetics over more sensible outfits. All the same, it's a thing.

So let's talk about Angelo. Angelo's a murderer, rapist, thief, and pedophile. Josuke's grandfather says he likes to kill for fun. He's clearly a bad guy most normal people wouldn't want anything to do with. Currently he's staking out Josuke's house, waiting for it to rain. I've never lived in Japan, but I imagine the weather there's as fickle as it is anywhere else. Like N'Dour, Angelo must've been prepared to wait awhile.

What are you up to Angelo? Watching the house?

Oh, you're eating. Don't forget to wash it down with-

-something.

So this is something Araki...I won't say "Starts" doing in Part 4, but starts employing far more effectively. In any previous part, and in many other comics in general, Angelo would just be "There" much like N'Dour was just there; watching, waiting to strike. Less of a character, more of an obstacle with a human face. Instead, Angelo is integrated into the world. He may be one-dimensionally evil, but he's human. He needs to eat and drink. He'll probably need to take a piss in a few hours.

Little details like this humanize Part 4's characters, even though they're the kind of thing we often take for granted. Angelo's clearly eating some kind of fast food, which means he must've gotten down from that tree at some point and gone over to a restaurant and ordered a burger and coke. He could just be watching Josuke's house through binoculars, but instead Araki decided to make him more visually interesting by giving him something to do with his hands and his mouth. It's amusingly inane.

This is the most minor spoiler ever, but in the next chapter when our heroes go outside Angelo is shown wearing what looks like an army surplus poncho.

Dude's effected by the elements! He probably had to get down from that tree to put it on. Or maybe he just finagled with it while up in the branches. That's kinda funny to think about.

I wouldn't consider Angelo to be a great character, but he has a real presence in the world these little touches build up. He's totally twisted and rotten to the core, but he has needs like anybody else. And opinions! Remember when he killed that guy and his dog? His reaction was pretty over the top, but it added a fun little quirk to an otherwise one-note villain. Angelo may be a vicious criminal who does as he pleases, but people who LITTER? Leaving their dog poop and cigarette butts wherever? Those guys are the real scum of society. Them and anyone he considers to be well off, just taking things for granted. Sounds like ol' Angelo has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.

The other thing I "Like" about Angelo - and I'll keep this part brief because it's pretty self-evident - is how effectively his stand demonstrates how little overall power means in the Arakiverse. Jotaro's no slouch. He won the stand lottery with Star Platinum. Power, speed, precision. He can even stop time, though he hasn't in awhile. A decade or so ago he killed a 100-year-old vampire in a duel to the death. Even so, Angelo, the starter bad guy of Part 4, poses a threat to him. Once it starts raining, it takes all of Jotaro's ability to avoid just getting chumped immediately. He can knock Aqua Necklace away, sure, but he can't damage it in any meaningful fashion. As Part 4 goes on we'll be seeing a lot of stands which, conceptually, shouldn't really be a big deal, but their users manage to make the most of them.

It's not what you've got but how you use it.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:00

Vandar: Sep 14, 2007; Isn't That Right, Chairman?

Josuke Higashikata posted:

It's a nice song, the visuals are superb (Lisa Lisa eyes on a soon to be relevant sign!, all the Josuke bits), it's not All Star, it came out of left-field, it defies expectation. It's perfect in the same way Last Train Home was despite not being a similar song at all.

But why are you listing that as a good point though?

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:01

Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

Because it's the best thing ever.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:03

Zwiebel: Feb 19, 2011; Hi!

It's a song that people liked at the time and it's cool to hear it again.
I'm also much happier with it than I'd be with freaking smash mouth, but that's probably heresy in this thread.

Not really much to discuss when it comes to differing tastes in music. Some will like it, some will hate it. I really didn't like the last train home as a followup to walk like an egyptian, even if I have to admit that it was fitting.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:04

Zero_Tactility: Nov 25, 2007; Look into my eyes.

Jymmybob posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3zGqDmwj_A

Duwang subs ED

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:04

Waffleman_: Jan 20, 2011; I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Love me some Jojo effortposts.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:04

Josuke Higashikata: Mar 7, 2013

Zwiebel posted:

I'm also much happier with it than I'd be with freaking smash mouth, but that's probably heresy in this thread.

It's fine, we, the good guys, won.

e: VVVVVVVVVVV - It's one of those memes that got spread and echoed so often that people forgot it was a joke and started to actually want it.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:05

Arsonist Daria: Feb 27, 2011; ^{Requiescat in pace.}

Zwiebel posted:

It's a song that people liked at the time and it's cool to hear it again.
I'm also much happier with it than I'd be with freaking smash mouth, but that's probably heresy in this thread.

Not really much to discuss when it comes to differing tastes in music. Some will like it, some will hate it. I really didn't like the last train home as a followup to walk like an egyptian, even if I have to admit that it was fitting.

I don't think many people wanted All Star for real.

The ones who did know who they are and that they should feel bad.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:05

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

Saying how the ED is fitting would probably be a big spoiler for an important character. It is very fitting, though.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:06

Johnny Joestar: Oct 21, 2010; Don't shoot him?

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i'm excited to watch the anime version of a part that i like better than the previous 3 and is one of my favorites overall. it's so relaxing*.

*relaxation may or may not involve grandpas being murdered and criminals being fused with rocks

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:07

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hoobajoo: Jun 2, 2004

Darth Walrus posted:

Saying how the ED is fitting would probably be a big spoiler for an important character. It is very fitting, though.

Yeah, I actually think it has a lot of legit thematic resonance with DiU, especially the later parts. It's still a terrible song sung by a Guy Fieri look-alike, but it does fit.

# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:08

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