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I just watched The Force Awakens. It was fun. I liked Han and Chewie a lot in it. That's about all I gotta say about it. 7/10
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Apr 9, 2016 17:07
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No no, its 7/9
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Apr 9, 2016 17:30
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jivjov posted:No no, its 7/9 but there will be exactly 10 live-action Star Wars movies after the upcoming boycott of Rogue One proves to Disney what an OUTRAGE it is to have women as main characters, so that Disney will cancel Episodes VIII and IX and only make the Han Solo and Boba Fett movies Right?
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Apr 9, 2016 17:35
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:How does that make the movie risky instead of just making it harder to market? It's a Star Wars movie about what the hell happened to Luke and the new Jedi and doesn't show Luke until the last minute of the movie, whereupon he says no lines. Anyway, the movie pushes a post Syria analysis of conflict. Where the OT and PT argue from a post Vietnam/post Iraq point of view claiming that intervention is an inherently bad thing in the PT and that discarding your weapons is the way to resolve conflict in the OT, TFA argues that intervention is necessary and justifiable early on in conflicts. The consequences of not doing so result in the Republic being blown away.
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Apr 9, 2016 17:36
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The prequel trilogy does not argue from a post-Iraq perspective.
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Zoran posted:The prequel trilogy does not argue from a post-Iraq perspective. And afghanistan. ROTS certainly does.
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Apr 9, 2016 17:47
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Episode II & III are a warning about not allowing a government figure to have too much power (this isn't the only theme, it's one of many). This was a hot topic issue during the George W. Bush years where government officials gave themselves more and more power over people and how they conducted war and the prequels were released during that time, minus Episode I. The overall politics of Star Wars movies capture the anxiety of the time. In the OT it was about shadowy government figures operating from the shadows, the prequels are about governments with too much power and no accountability, and the sequel trilogy is about a whiny entitled white dude. I said come in! fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Apr 9, 2016 |
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Apr 9, 2016 17:48
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Having armed fotces is not too much power for a government to hold.Yorkshire Tea posted:It's a Star Wars movie about what the hell happened to Luke and the new Jedi and doesn't show Luke until the last minute of the movie, whereupon he says no lines. The last Star Wars movie before TFA also had Luke show up for a minute at the end, without lines. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Apr 9, 2016 |
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Apr 9, 2016 17:52
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I just watched The Force Awakens. It was fun. I liked Han and Chewie a lot in it. I liked it too. It was cool when the xwings came to that jungle place and saved the day. I also liked when finn and the pilot met up again and he was cool about the jacket
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Interesting note: Attack of the Clones finished filming in September of 2000, and was released in May of 2002. So the Bush/ 9/11 parallels at the time were pretty much coincidental, or at least those anxieties existed pre-9/11.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The last Star Wars movie before TFA also had Luke show up for a minute at the end, without lines. It wasn't about finding Luke. computer parts posted:Interesting note: Attack of the Clones finished filming in September of 2000, and was released in May of 2002. So the Bush/ 9/11 parallels at the time were pretty much coincidental, or at least those anxieties existed pre-9/11. That's actually really interesting. I'd assumed it finished somewhere in 2001. Still I feel like the anxieties around intervention certainly still did exist following Somalia in '92 and Iraq and Afghanistan cemented that. Natural 20 fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Apr 9, 2016 |
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Apr 9, 2016 17:58
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Yorkshire Tea posted:
There were reshoots in March of 2001 going by Wikipedia, but still several months away from 9/11.
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jivjov posted:No no, its 7/9 Wrong franchise for seven of nine.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:01
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jivjov posted:No no, its 7/9 That's Star Trek edit: missed it by that much
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Apr 9, 2016 18:03
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Yorkshire Tea posted:It wasn't about finding Luke. Neither is TFA.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:09
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I like the scenes in Jakku and I think they do convey a life that's separate from that on Tattooine, and they don't drag the pace down at all since we're transitioning from the very busy opening and to Finn and Poe's Excellent Adventure. The lack of interaction between the people of Jakku is itself telling, and it seems to me that rather than "sentimentality", it's conveying the opposite- that sometimes poverty and ruthless capitalism breeds isolation and despair. The shot of the bread being made is good because it's not just a neat (apparently practical) effect, but conveys how base life is here. We should not think that the poor are better off being poor and virtuous, because that thinking helps enable the tolerance of slavery and peasantry. Rey is not a happy serf.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:14
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Neither is TFA. quote:Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Neither is TFA. http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=191162
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TFA is mostly about fighting the First Order actually. The First Order trying to find Luke Skywalker triggers the plot, but it isn't what the movie is really about. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Apr 9, 2016 |
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Apr 9, 2016 18:26
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'Finding Luke Skywalker' is purely metaphorical in the film, and basically just means 'rediscovering the spirit of Star Wars' after the prequels' harsh critiques. ("This will begin to make things right.") The trick is that Luke Skywalker never shows up, so it's already very implicit that there's something wrong with TFA - that it and its characters misidentify what Star Wars is really about.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:29
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Episode VIII is just two hours and twenty minutes of Luke Skywalker standing on the ledge talking to Rey about trade disputes.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:48
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Neo Rasa posted:Episode VIII is just two hours and twenty minutes of Luke Skywalker standing on the ledge talking to Rey about trade disputes. Probably still be better than Attack of the Clones to me.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:57
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Rabelais D posted:Abrams gave us a Wrath of Khan remake without a submarines-in-space battle, and a Star Wars IV remake without a good death star assault. Into Darkness is def not submarines, it's a frigate vs a ship-of-the-line, complete with sabotage/boarding party since they are so heavily out-gunned. It was much better than the starkiller run.
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Apr 9, 2016 19:43
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Probably still be better than Attack of the Clones to me. ok...explain please???
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Apr 9, 2016 20:06
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We live in a world where the Alien franchise exist, yet a female lead in Star Wars is crossing the line and shoving progressive liberal ideals down our throats.
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Baron Bifford posted:Every gangster that Dredd kills is a cycle of violence ended.
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Wild Horses posted:ok...explain please??? I think Attack of the Clones is Very Boring.
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Apr 9, 2016 20:27
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Free Baron Bifford.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I think Attack of the Clones is Very Boring. booo colosseum poo poo is my jam also 
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Wild Horses posted:booo I forgot that we have a Count Dooku emote. Or Christopher Lee if you wanna be more accurate.
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Apr 9, 2016 20:36
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Where did I do that? BravestOfTheLamps posted:TFA isn't actually worthwhile, it only exists for the sake of the brand.
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Apr 9, 2016 21:16
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In honor of Rogue One, we should all rewatch Ghost Dog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAlBlavGaB8 I actually got a copy of the Ghost Dog rpg, somewhere in a box.
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MonsieurChoc posted:In honor of Rogue One, we should all rewatch Ghost Dog. We should all rewatch Ghost Dog because it's Ghost Dog.
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I just realized that they got Mon Mothma's actress from Episode III to return as Mon Mothma in Rogue One. Finally, as direct a callback to the prequels' existence as you can get. I also just realized Mon Mothma's name is Mom Mom Mom.
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Apr 9, 2016 22:26
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I said come in! posted:Free Baron Bifford.
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What does Rey want?
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That doesn't just mean that the new movies are done for the sake of marketing. These productions include people who truly and sincerely want to make great and unforgettable stories. Unfortunately, this drive is employed on extending the Star Wars brand. They want to create more Star Wars, but when that's all you seek to do, yo won't accomplish that much. Just brand for brand's sake. That's the principle behind the Expanded Universe. Sure, there have been a lot of passionate people working at it, but it's still the Star Wars EU. On the other hand, maybe TFA has brought something new to Star Wars and cinema in general. Nobody has yet discovered what it is, but I still believe. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 9, 2016 |
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Apr 9, 2016 22:57
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Toilet Mouth posted:What does Rey want? A family.
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What Bravestothelamps wrote is fully accurate. TFA is about what Star Wars is not. You had Star Wars, and then you had a new trilogy that highlighted the dark side of Star Wars. TFA, on the other hand, is non-Star Wars. It's a movie about characters searching for the concept of 'Star Wars' and coming up empty - until R2 is unwittingly woken up at the very end of the film by a MacGuffin character that nobody paid attention to. The point of TFA is that Star Wars will begin after this groundwork is out of the way.
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