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PoptartsNinja posted:It'll probably be available in time for the next mission, but really, how many of the Demon Hawks are going to be capable of piloting a Clan OmniMech without penalty and with no training? Two of them. berryjon posted:Why do I suspect that being an Investigative Reporter has its advantages? Ha, time for
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berryjon posted:Why do I suspect that being an Investigative Reporter has its advantages? Interesting fact - the Witness has yet to use any contractions in her sentences.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:20
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PoptartsNinja posted:No, it took a cockpit crit. The head isn't destroyed, but the cockpit still needs repairs before it can take a pilot. They'll likely have to use the Warhawk's cockpit to fix it. Wait. TWO?
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GhostStalker posted:Ha, time for And that, my friends, could be poetry in lethality.
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Artificer posted:Wait. TWO? Bethany and the liason is my guess. The NRWR clearly has the technology to produce Omnimechs and the original Dragoon was one of the proto-omnis along with the Mercury.
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Apr 9, 2016 18:25
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He's not a Demon Hawk though.
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Scintilla posted:Interesting fact - the Witness has yet to use any contractions in her sentences. Actually, she has. She slipped up once when the wing pair of Kirghiz flew onto the map in update 4. Probably due to panic or something like that. Or maybe to sell that panic more to the rest of the Demon Hawks, I guess. GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 9, 2016 |
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Scintilla posted:Bethany and the liason is my guess. The NRWR clearly has the technology to produce Omnimechs and the original Dragoon was one of the proto-omnis along with the Mercury. No, I bet that there's something Jason
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Octatonic posted:No, I bet that there's something Jason I know what you did last Summer in Clan Space
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Apr 9, 2016 19:45
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Ok, revising estimates up to four of them, but neither Jason or Duncan would want it.
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Apr 9, 2016 19:55
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Yeah, but Jason called dibs on it!
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Apr 9, 2016 20:06
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So he might not be driving it around for a mission or two while he gets used to it.
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Apr 9, 2016 20:16
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Duncan strikes me as the type who rides Assault mechs exclusively. A 60 tonner like that Mad Dog is just below his notice.
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JT Jag posted:Duncan strikes me as the type who rides Assault mechs exclusively. A 60 tonner like that Mad Dog is just below his notice. Nah, he'll pilot anything and everything. His strongest talent is his ability to pilot nearly any `Mech to the best of his abilities. He's just not a very good pilot. 
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I wonder if the NRWR has the tech to make clan LRM ammo that will work in the mad dog's LRM 20? I seem to recall that the cLRM 20 is one of the more bullshit weapons. The mad dog prime looks pretty swanky as machines go, though. I feel like it's a better loadout than the B unless I'm missing something like heat issues.
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The B has insane range (only AC/2 variants can touch it at max range) and is better equipped for finishing off weakened targets with all those SRMs. Neither of them has any business alpha striking, they only sink 24 heat and easily generate that with just the large lasers.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Nah, he'll pilot anything and everything. His strongest talent is his ability to pilot nearly any `Mech to the best of his abilities.
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JT Jag posted:How did he not get nicknamed "Jack"? And head of the All Trade lance of the Demon Hawks. Unfortunately, he constantly ends up in scrapes against rival mercenaries, the Nunn Company. Lead by the elusive Robert "Master" Brooks.
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dis astranagant posted:The B has insane range (only AC/2 variants can touch it at max range) and is better equipped for finishing off weakened targets with all those SRMs. Neither of them has any business alpha striking, they only sink 24 heat and easily generate that with just the large lasers. I guess the streak system does matter, since those are all or nothing on the flights. But two 6s and a lrm20 is 32 missiles to the 30 the prime has in two lrm15s. The LBX is probably also pretty good with cluster ammo for getting some crits. I just feel like the LPL/MPL combo is more resilient and probably better at opening holes at range than the AC and ERMLs, and just relying on the lrms to do the crit seeking work seems sufficient. I could be very wrong, I've never played with either of them, but that's my gut instinct. I also just like energy weapons more, call it a personal failing.
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Olothreutes posted:I guess the streak system does matter, since those are all or nothing on the flights. But two 6s and a lrm20 is 32 missiles to the 30 the prime has in two lrm15s. The LBX is probably also pretty good with cluster ammo for getting some crits. I just feel like the LPL/MPL combo is more resilient and probably better at opening holes at range than the AC and ERMLs, and just relying on the lrms to do the crit seeking work seems sufficient. I could be very wrong, I've never played with either of them, but that's my gut instinct. I also just like energy weapons more, call it a personal failing. Didn't realize that PTN's B is nothing like the canon one. The LB-10X is arguably the best weapon in the game, full stop. It punches holes with the best of them and murders pilots with cluster hits. Clan ER Mediums are essentially Inner Sphere Larges with less heat, they punch good holes. It can't snipe nearly as well as the Prime but it would have torn us to pieces if it weren't for that amazing shot. The best part is that it can actually fire most of its weapons at once without any major heat issues. The canon B model is a sniper with a strong set of close range weapons to fall back on. PTN's is a motherfucker at all ranges. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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dis astranagant posted:Didn't realize that PTN's B is nothing like the canon one. The LB-10X is arguably the best weapon in the game, full stop. It punches holes with the best of them and murders pilots with cluster hits. Clan ER Mediums are essentially Inner Sphere Larges with less heat, they punch good holes. It can't snipe nearly as well as the Prime but it would have torn us to pieces if it weren't for that amazing shot. The best part is that it can actually fire most of its weapons at once without any major heat issues. I'll have to give the lb-10x a go in megamek the next time I've got a moment or three. I have basically no experience with it. I really should get all my against the bot files off my other computer and start avoiding my thesis that way again.
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dis astranagant posted:Didn't realize that PTN's B is nothing like the canon one. The LB-10X is arguably the best weapon in the game, full stop. It punches holes with the best of them and murders pilots with cluster hits. Clan ER Mediums are essentially Inner Sphere Larges with less heat, they punch good holes. It can't snipe nearly as well as the Prime but it would have torn us to pieces if it weren't for that amazing shot. The best part is that it can actually fire most of its weapons at once without any major heat issues. IIRC, the Clan Medium Pulse is pound for pound the most efficient damage dealer in the game, but efficiency is terribly, terribly boring.
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Zeroisanumber posted:IIRC, the Clan Medium Pulse is pound for pound the most efficient damage dealer in the game, but efficiency is terribly, terribly boring. Not if you bundle the weight of heat sinks into it. Then it's the Clan machine gun because you can stack it forever. But ignoring that, the best damage:tonnage ratio weapon is the Small Heavy Laser which does 12 damage per ton.
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Defiance Industries posted:Not if you bundle the weight of heat sinks into it. Then it's the Clan machine gun because you can stack it forever. But ignoring that, the best damage:tonnage ratio weapon is the Small Heavy Laser which does 12 damage per ton. We didn't have those when I was 13 and playing on a sandtable in the back of my flgs. 
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The LB-10 might be especially remarkable if all the cluster pellets hit at all times, but, well, they don't.
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The Merry Marauder posted:The LB-10 might be especially remarkable if all the cluster pellets hit at all times, but, well, they don't. Instead they have -1 to hit. At 18 range. For 2 heat. And only weigh 11 or 10 tons, with 6 or 5 crits. And have plenty of ammo per ton. And can switch back to being a PPC equivalent hole puncher on a whim. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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It's not bad. Still heavy for something that does 6 damage a lot. If you really want to go full critseeker, just poo poo Streaks at things from fast platforms. Not to mention the mighty pulse laser(s). In any event, it's not the best weapon in the game, arguably or otherwise.
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The Merry Marauder posted:It's not bad. Still heavy for something that does 6 damage a lot. Yeah, it's a good, usable weapon, compared to things like the AC/2 which are super-niche or the AC/5 which is more or less "what the gently caress were you thinking" but nowhere near the best. The Best Weapons In The Game for the Clans are probably, in no particular order: ER Medium Lasers Large Pulse Lasers ERPPCs LRMs
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LB-10x are good because of the range that you can critseek from. SRM/MML platforms have to get close to be effective critseekers, which can expose them, depending on the situation. A RFL-6X, say, can just rock back and forth at range 12~, still have solid to-hit numbers because of the cluster ammo, and get TACs and head-taps with good frequency. You might be able to argue that SRMs/MMLs/streaks are better pound-for-pound, but the LB-10x gives you much more tactical flexibility while also allowing for plenty of hit location rolls.
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I think we can all agree that they are situationally good. Naturally, this is something Clan Omnis can abuse in typically egregious fashion.
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The Merry Marauder posted:It's not bad. Still heavy for something that does 6 damage a lot. In MWO, this leads to the mighty "Streakcrow" variant of the Stormcrow. Everybody loves it!
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Well, before this gets out of hand. Here you go, guys. Speculate wildly! 
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Is that movement profile correct? 10/15/20? I don't see a Partial Wing on the RaveBoat there.
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Without checking anything, that seems like a pretty hefty punch for the weight.
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berryjon posted:Is that movement profile correct? 10/15/20? I don't see a Partial Wing on the RaveBoat there. PTN puts jump mp in a separate box. That's MASC speed.
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berryjon posted:Is that movement profile correct? 10/15/20? I don't see a Partial Wing on the RaveBoat there. That's the MASC I believe. Edit: ^gently caress
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berryjon posted:Is that movement profile correct? 10/15/20? I don't see a Partial Wing on the RaveBoat there. I think that's MASC move, not jump. He has no jump. e: welp
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PoptartsNinja posted:Well, before this gets out of hand. At last. The true final form of the Pulsar has been unveiled by fire. Godspeed, Locust But Way More.
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I'm normally not a fan of the riced out pulse lasers (he can only run and shoot 3 of them before having problems) but if anything can make them work it's something that ridiculously fast.
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