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I don't really have much of a reason it's just uninteresting and bad. It sounds bad.
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# ? Feb 1, 2016 10:36 |
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Was browsing Philip Larkin's Complete Poems in the library. For some reason his oeuvre just seems like an extension of the first stanza of Eugene Onegin. I like his irreverence.
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# ? Feb 1, 2016 16:24 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Pandering chicken-scratches if you ask me, and I love Scotland. Apparently not enough to know that Orcadians are generally not considered Scots by either themselves or their southern neighbours.
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# ? Feb 1, 2016 21:35 |
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Orkney isn't part of Scotland?! e: but seriously ok BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Feb 2, 2016 |
# ? Feb 2, 2016 05:37 |
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CestMoi posted:I don't really have much of a reason it's just uninteresting and bad. It sounds bad. We have bi-polar tastes. Have you read any Peter Orlovsky? I think Roggenbuck straight up jacked his poo poo. He's much, much better but not as well known. You might like it.
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# ? Feb 2, 2016 15:11 |
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Just read Frist Poem and Snail Poem and they are nice + a lot nicer than Roggenbuck. I don't really see the similarity either other than not spelling things right, Roggenbuck always seems like a really stupid Whitman to me, like he's tried to nick the Whitmany, positive, SOng of Myself way of writing without knowing how to write something that sounds good.
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# ? Feb 2, 2016 21:43 |
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You might be right. I'm not overly familiar with Whitman. I was more thinking about how Orlovsky enjambs disparate lines in order to by-pass the intellect and get at an emotion. It seems like Roggenbuck does the same poo poo but in the vernacular of social media.
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# ? Feb 3, 2016 02:03 |
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Today I bought History by David O'Hanlon which is a really recently published collection of poems by someone I have never heard of before and they're pretty nice! A lot of them are heavily inspired by Greek myths I cba to type one of the long ones here's a short one called Sisyphus And the boulder rolls back down the hill. I almost laugh. I've wept enough. This is my joy: to see the globe, my entire world, fall away and - ha! - crash, then to descend in its wake, relishing the downhill run, arms thrown out, a child again.
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# ? Feb 15, 2016 23:29 |
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Barring the chance that your poem happens to be unimaginably good, no one should probably ever mention 1. The ocean 2. The universe. First mention of waves and I'm done before the rest of th truck of images pass by. That and making up cute new compound words is very hell and those poems do that too.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 04:06 |
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Zesty Mordant posted:Barring the chance that your poem happens to be unimaginably good, no one should probably ever mention 1. The ocean 2. The universe. First mention of waves and I'm done before the rest of th truck of images pass by. That and making up cute new compound words is very hell and those poems do that too. I was reading this article about Gerald Murnane recently and apparently when he was teaching creative writing he would always tell people to not write about the ocean, because he considers it an 'enemy'.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 09:22 |
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Zesty Mordant posted:Barring the chance that your poem happens to be unimaginably good, no one should probably ever mention 1. The ocean 2. The universe. First mention of waves and I'm done before the rest of th truck of images pass by. That and making up cute new compound words is very hell and those poems do that too. But it's so big and mysterious
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 14:19 |
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A human heart posted:I was reading this article about Gerald Murnane recently and apparently when he was teaching creative writing he would always tell people to not write about the ocean, because he considers it an 'enemy'. Haven't heard that name in awhile. Are you Australian? Best Poem Ever. The -- Ocean.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 14:41 |
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NZ actually, but I know about him because he's had stuff published by Dalkey Archive.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 23:24 |
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A human heart posted:NZ actually, but I know about him because he's had stuff published by Dalkey Archive. Oh cool. I didn't know that. A lot of Australian critics want to put him on the shelf with Bolano. I'll have to check Dalkey.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 06:06 |
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double post.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 06:06 |
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Is Shelley translating Oedipus Tyrannos as Swellfoot the Tyrant the ugliest poetical decision ever made??? Discuss.
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# ? Mar 16, 2016 19:44 |
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Any love for my boy E.E. Cummings?? His unique poetic stylings inspired a generation of American poets. Granted, his stuff might appear inaccessible to someone unfamiliar with his oeuvre but I really urge goons to give it a good shot. As long as you keep yourself from trying to 'master' his poems you'll find that they are really quite beautiful. I'll post one I particularly like. Something about it brought me back to the innocence of my childhood. EDIT: The formatting gets messed on the forum so I'll just link it here http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/176657 s7indicate3 fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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CestMoi posted:Is Shelley translating Oedipus Tyrannos as Swellfoot the Tyrant the ugliest poetical decision ever made??? Discuss. Shelley deserved a solid asskicking.. "I fall upon the thorns of life! I bleed!" I mean, how could he even stand to face himself in the mirror each day knowing he had written those lines, wirh those exclamation marks? Truly shameful.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 05:02 |
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edgar allen poe is pretty cool i guess? is that better than the two roads diverged guy or am i going to be shipped off to the tasteless slob camp?
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 06:53 |
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Yes, but only for thinking he's pretty cool, not because Frost is any good.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 11:09 |
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icantfindaname posted:is that better than the two roads diverged guy or am i going to be shipped off to the tasteless slob camp? Yes, and yes.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 15:10 |
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Rabbit Hill posted:Shelley deserved a solid asskicking.. "I fall upon the thorns of life! I bleed!" I mean, how could he even stand to face himself in the mirror each day knowing he had written those lines, wirh those exclamation marks? Truly shameful. I can't bring myself to hate a line like that it's too fun.
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 15:11 |
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s7indicate3 posted:Any love for my boy E.E. Cummings?? His unique poetic stylings inspired a generation of American poets. Granted, his stuff might appear inaccessible to someone unfamiliar with his oeuvre but I really urge goons to give it a good shot. As long as you keep yourself from trying to 'master' his poems you'll find that they are really quite beautiful. I'll post one I particularly like. Something about it brought me back to the innocence of my childhood. ee cummings owns. He's definitely my favorite poet, both for his more abstract works: And his more traditional (if still a little oddball) poetry: ee cummings posted:If freckles were lovely, and day was night,
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# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:04 |
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Arcsech posted:ee cummings owns. He's definitely my favorite poet I love that visual poem. I see it as a leaf as it rocks back and forth before inevitably hitting the ground. All moments of its decent in suspension and immortalized through language. Also, trademark word-in-word play with "l(oneliness)". He kind of does it in this poem with "w(here)". Its a great poem and, despite its length and difficulty, I challenge people to give it a try. Re-reading the poem I noticed what maybe is some interplay with "l(a" and "my father moved through dooms of love" with the line " My father moved through theys of we, / singing each new leaf out of each tree" quote:my father moved through dooms of love EDIT: Dropped more knowledge s7indicate3 fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 19, 2016 |
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Rabbit Hill posted:Shelley deserved a solid asskicking.. "I fall upon the thorns of life! I bleed!" I mean, how could he even stand to face himself in the mirror each day knowing he had written those lines, wirh those exclamation marks? Truly shameful. Shelley is probably the best of the Romantic poets, though, is the thing. Yeah, that line by itself is kind of "we get it," and I had a great Romantic lit professor who thought it was the worst thing Shelley ever wrote, but I think it comes from a fundamental misinterpretation of "Ode to the West Wind" and Shelley's stuff as a whole. So the wind in Shelley is an image of philosophical necessity, going as far back as Queen Mab, which kind of establishes his whole poetic language. And this image pops up again and again in his mid-period poetry: it's in Prometheus Unbound, reconfigured as Demogorgon's law, and it's in "The Masque of Anarchy" as the voice of the Earth. And both of those poems could, I guess, be interpreted with the wind as a positive force, though it's definitely still a violent one. But then suddenly in "West Wind" the wind's actually kind of a huge jerk, right? Literally every other bit of nature cowers before it, and it drives literal "pestilence-stricken multitudes" out of its sight like dead leaves. So I think there's this really fascinating thing going on where Shelley still believes in necessity as a controlling force driving the universe, even if he's gotten really disillusioned with it in the aftermath of the Peterloo Massacre. So as to that specific line, he's begging necessity to start giving a poo poo about human needs - "Be thou me!" is a literal call for necessity to emulate social radical Percy Bysshe Shelley, who "falls upon the thorns of life" and "bleeds." So it's not so much "poor, pitiful me" as it is "get on my level." Shelley's a crazy good writer. If all you know are the lyrics, you're missing out on his coolest stuff.
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# ? Apr 10, 2016 10:01 |
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I'm reading this little small press book of poems by cool Italian guy Adriano Spatola that I found ages ago for like 2 dollars and he has some cool imagery, for examplequote:Majakovskiiiiiiij
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# ? Apr 20, 2016 11:17 |
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Shelley is great specifically because he's a babydick weirdo honestly I really have a fondness for Byron though, "I literally cannot stop loving beautiful women and it's making me depressed"
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# ? Apr 20, 2016 17:30 |
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Hey. Anybody read Margaret Atwood's poetry? I just finished The Handmaid's Tale and enjoyed it, so now I'm curious to read her poetry, although I don't know what it's like.
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# ? Jun 10, 2016 05:02 |
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Bandiet posted:Anybody read Margaret Atwood's poetry? I just finished The Handmaid's Tale and enjoyed it, so now I'm curious to read her poetry, although I don't know what it's like. quote:The world is full of women
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# ? Jun 10, 2016 14:28 |
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Bandiet posted:Hey. Atwood's poetry is all similar in nature. Usually she takes a feminist angle on patriarchal mythology to dimensionalize female figures in mythology. My favourite in that genre is : http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/detail/32778 That being said, as a Canadian literature student I have had to read a lot of Atwood and can report that the poem that mostly gets taught is "Tricks With Mirrors", which for whatever reason lacks a poetry foundation page. So here it is quote:Tricks with Mirrors
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# ? Jun 14, 2016 14:56 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 06:01 |
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Anyone have any experience with Ugly Ducking Presse Books? They are having a 40% off sale on books from June 18 - 25 and I dunno what's good. Apart from the translation of Yevgeny Baratynsky, who is a rad Russian poet from the 1800s. Any other recs?
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