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You don't need to study how to be a Commander because the Flame literally will teach you everything you need to know. Like, for example, the names of every past Commander from the first to the latest. E: of course some basic social skills would help, but we'll see how Ontari operates when her back isn't against the wall. Which we may not, since she isn't likely to ever get the Flame. Jasper and Clarke are racing back the way she came, so I expect that next they're going to run over King Roan, who is following Clarke. 
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steinrokkan posted:How did Jaha get to be a chancellor, given that he is the most easily fooled moron in the history of humanity. It's called reality.
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hollylolly posted:You don't need to study how to be a Commander because the Flame literally will teach you everything you need to know. Like, for example, the names of every past Commander from the first to the latest. E: of course some basic social skills would help, but we'll see how Ontari operates when her back isn't against the wall. Which we may not, since she isn't likely to ever get the Flame. Oh yeah, what I liked was that Murphy picked up on the whole naming of the past Commander's ritual. "The new commander has to list all the names of all the previous Commanders." "So only the new commander and the flame keeper actually know the names of all the previous Commanders." "Yeah, we can totally BS our way through this. Gotta fake it to make it though. "
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thrakkorzog posted:Oh yeah, what I liked was that Murphy picked up on the whole naming of the past Commander's ritual. Its risky behaviour tho. Didn't they say that there was many new Commander's during Titus' time as flamekepa? Consider that some of the people out there may have been there for other ascension, therefore its possible some of them remember the names.
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It really was perfect. I had kinda forgotten just how split up they'd become so seeing their arcs crash together like that was amusing. Not sure what the general consensus is but I'm enjoying this season a lot.
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Holy poo poo, that was actually Lindsey Morgan (Raven) doing the voice when she was possessed by ALIE? I totally assumed they dubbed it and she just nailed the physical mannerisms.
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VagueRant posted:Holy poo poo, that was actually Lindsey Morgan (Raven) doing the voice when she was possessed by ALIE? I totally assumed they dubbed it and she just nailed the physical mannerisms. Dubbed, but the acting was still awesome CODChimera posted:It really was perfect. I had kinda forgotten just how split up they'd become so seeing their arcs crash together like that was amusing. Me too, its still better then the vast majority of stuff on TV. I keep being surprised & entertained. Murphy is the best. See Clarke, this is the sort of poo poo a proper barbarian hero would be doing right now. I also think Ontari is great, a psycho killer in a society of psycho killers would act exactly like she is acting.
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DarkCrawler posted:Dubbed, but the acting was still awesome Her ALIE was scary and I'm feeling bad for wanting Raven go back to her original self with all that pain.  quote:Murphy is the best. See Clarke, this is the sort of poo poo a proper barbarian hero would be doing right now. I also think Ontari is great, a psycho killer in a society of psycho killers would act exactly like she is acting. Ontari is completely lost after years of preparation all went down the drain , that Clarke bitch first killes her Ice Queen and then steals the AI chip.
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raditts posted:It sounded dubbed to me. DarkCrawler posted:Dubbed, but the acting was still awesome
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CeeJee posted:Her ALIE was scary and I'm feeling bad for wanting Raven go back to her original self with all that pain. edit: Also Lexa killed the Ice Queen.
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Calling it now: the finale will be a religious war between ALIE 1.0 Arcadia led by Jaha and ALIE 2.0 Grounders led by Luna/Clarke. 
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I guess I'll get around to this then: S3 E11 Nevermore Alie draws out Raven's dark side; Jasper's frustration grows; Octavia struggles to know her place. Relevant? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLiXjaPqSyY
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Antifreeze Head posted:I guess I'll get around to this then:  that's my line!
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Antifreeze Head posted:I guess I'll get around to this then:  I don't like that first part.
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Welp, it's gonna be a long time before he gets over THAT.  Welcome to a lifetime of nightmares, Monty!
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That poo poo with Raven was horrifying  Alie taunting everyone was loving hilarious. Dropping some serious truth bombs.Octavia laying the verbal smackdown on Bellamy was nice. Please die horribly Bellamy. You too Jasper. No one cares about your whiny poo poo and the girlfriend you knew for like a week. TMMadman posted:Poor Monty.
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I forgot there was an episode tonight. What did Monty do? Did he finally kill his murderous mother?
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That was a really interesting episode in that it took place in the space of a single night, and the plot really focused in on exorcising Raven (barring Monty's axial adventure with Octavia).
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I keep waiting for Jasper to really tell off Clarke and Bellamy, and finally just get fed up of their ego-driven decision-making and make his own decisions (or for the group). I mean, he was pretty proactive last season, all the way until Clarke hosed everything up and murdered everybody who was helping the errr 47(? iirc?). I wonder if Monty's horrific experience is going to split up the Monty+Jasper dynamic for good this time, or if this will lead him to really empathize with Jasper's current state of mind. Honestly, it could go either way. Also, I just realized what a religious psycho Jaha's become. Actively advocating for ALIE to destroy her meat-drones' sense of free will, the hardcore convert-or-die Spanish Inquisition stuff... I saw him as a slightly religious kook who was desperate to believe in something hopeful, last season, but the realization that he's a full on psycho blindsided me during this past episode. Was that actually Jaha, who advised ALIE to remove people's free will, or just ALIE talking herself into doing it via drone proxy? yarrrjun fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Yeah I'm pretty sure Jaha ~fully submitted~ a while ago. And by "a while ago" I mean, like, when Murphy was in the bunker.
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So long Lesbigate! Now we picking up some speed.
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Its impossible to say how much of Jaha's actions are ALIE and how much are him. Raven had enough of herself to fight ALIE for awhile but then once she "submitted" she was 100% ALIE. I don't even know what "submit" is but we have no idea if Jaha did it or not or what he went through in the time between Murphy being with him. My guess is that they'll start to free people from ALIE and get the chip out of Jaha but then he'll betray them and reveal he wants it all willingly. Jaha was always pretty predisposed to "end justifies the means/sacrifice for the better of the group/submit" mentality. I mean, he sentenced his only son to death.
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Rhyno posted:Looks like Octavia is done playing Warrior Princess. I hope so, her cosplaying as a grounder after knowing them for like three or four months was getting pretty tiring. Although I get that her life on the Ark must've made her predisposed to feel like an outsider with the Ark people, I couldn't help but roll my eyes at how fast she adopted the grounders' (often lovely) ways.
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I didn't have any problem with Octavia adopting the grounder identity. That's the thing about Octavia. She's spent her entire life in a floor or a prison cell. She's never been a part of any culture or society. So its not like she was someone who grew up in the way of the Ark who just started acting like a grounder. She was kind of a blank slate who had never really developed much of any identity. So she picks up a grounder boyfriend and a grounder mentor so she just went all in. After all, the Ark folk are kind of assholes anyway and they killed your mom for you being born. So how good can their society be? The strangest thing about Octavia is that she's half as well rounded as she is. She should probably be way more of an unstable, anti-social, half psychotic weirdo all things considered. You have to give Bellamy and her mom a lot of credit for that home schooling. I liked the whole "not tree crew, not sky crew, we're the 100" thing Monty was pushing on her. Its the one thing that motley crew of mass murderers and mentally broken lunatics have in common. And now they all have in common that they've driven themselves half mad with the atrocities they've suffered or committed. That must be why Harper, Miller, and Miller's boyfriend had to wait outside all episode. They'll be accepted into the club once they put a few more black marks on their souls. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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STAC Goat posted:I didn't have any problem with Octavia adopting the grounder identity. Agreed with all these. Octavia's shifting sense of identity makes a lot of sense given her background, and she's really the only one to see everyone's bullshit from all sides. Probably why she's my favorite character. The only thing that doesn't make sense is that the 100 have only been on the ground for about half a year. All of these events have taken half a year to transpire. That's a lot of trauma. Jesus that episode was intense. hope and vaseline fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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STAC Goat posted:Its impossible to say how much of Jaha's actions are ALIE and how much are him. Raven had enough of herself to fight ALIE for awhile but then once she "submitted" she was 100% ALIE. I don't even know what "submit" is but we have no idea if Jaha did it or not or what he went through in the time between Murphy being with him. My guess is that they'll start to free people from ALIE and get the chip out of Jaha but then he'll betray them and reveal he wants it all willingly. Jaha was always pretty predisposed to "end justifies the means/sacrifice for the better of the group/submit" mentality. I mean, he sentenced his only son to death. The difference between Jaha and the other meat puppets is that Jaha is ALIE's collaborator. He's taught her a lot of the awful stuff she's been doing in the past few episodes, because she wasn't programmed to use coercion to get people to accept her. In a lot of ways, she is (was) an innocent - she had no idea there were all these ways to circumvent free will.
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STAC Goat posted:That must be why Harper, Miller, and Miller's boyfriend had to wait outside all episode. They'll be accepted into the club once they put a few more black marks on their souls.
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It's good to have BG characters because you never know when you'll have a plotline about stolen gemstones and poisonous spiders that just doesn't jive with anyone else we have ever met.
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Didn't Harper, Miller, and his boyfriend (what is his name??) stay at the cave? I feel like there wasn't enough room in the rover for them.
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steinrokkan posted:How much more spinal surgery will Raven go through in this goddamn show What, you can't stand a female character having a spine?  I'll show myself out.
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Fighting Trousers posted:Bellamy is a follower. He needs to be backing somebody else's play or he's left flailing uselessly in the breeze. During season 2 (when most people agree he was at his best), he was following Clarke. By the end of the season, he had all but dropped to his knees to pledge his fealty and proclaim himself her vassal. Then she goes on walkabout and he had to find someone else to follow. He tried with Abby and Kane, but Abby's a poo poo leader and Kane was trying too hard to follow the rules. Then Pike rolls in, all "Protect our people" and "This is a zero-sum game", and Bellamy the follower falls right in line. Gotta say I'm pleased with the fact that evil, ALIE-ified Raven agreed with my assessment of Bellamy's character flaws.
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