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A White Guy posted:hbombersguy's new video about rationalists freaking out over female ghostbusters is beautiful I used to follow thunderfoot just to laugh at creationists and because sceince is neat (and because i was very into "new atheism" in my teen years). This is sad to see, but not really unexpected.
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Magnusth posted:I used to follow thunderfoot just to laugh at creationists and because sceince is neat (and because i was very into "new atheism" in my teen years). This is sad to see, but not really unexpected. The canary in a cave for me was when he advocated quran book burning, in this case deleting, and all the other internet atheists who ended up being pretty loving right wing, antifeminist gators who outside of disagreeing with fundamentalists, tended to end up being pretty much like what they're against.
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A while ago, I claimed slashdot is liberal. Somebody else claimed it wasn't, it was basically crazy it's-not-sexist-if-it's-science gently caress-you-got-mine libertarianism. After having read a few responses and, importantly, their scores on political threads on slashdot as of recently, I must admit I may have vastly overestimated political attitudes amongst this subset of nerds. Consider this  gem:BeauHD on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @01:01AM from the female-personas dept. posted:Tech Firms Have An Obsession With 'Female' Digital Servants (zdnet.com) 566 DrYak ( 748999 ) on Tuesday April 05, 2016 @04:30AM (#51843835) posted:Higher pitch voice *are* easier to hear (Score:4, Interesting) Note the jump from "it would be a technically optimal solution" to "this, and not anything related to any other aspect of consumer preferences, e.g. a preference for subservient women, must be why Apple chose it". Nessus posted:We can't But, hey, for anyone who might still somehow consider me a not entirely unredeemable cause somehow: following intense sessions of self criticism, I have come to the conclusion that I'm so down on certain anti-reactionary arguments because 1. I'd be down on everything cause I'm a massive downer, 2. most of what I read is anti-reactionary. (Who is Wesley? Who is the guy with all the ys in their name? I don't know a word they say!) Thus, I should probably read something else for a change! I then ask you to suggest to me a few new blogs to read. It could either be right wing stuff, so I can hate something else for a change, or left wing stuff you consider good. If you post something that's not goatse or makes me barf for other reasons, I promise to add it to my feed reader for at least a week. WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU? Well, I might read this thread less. Win/win. Also, it might sensitize me more to how despicable reactionaries are/how good other people are. I tried reading Steve Sailer, but it sadly does not pass the barf test. I can't look at that stuff for long enough to begin to be down on it! It's just so annoying. Similarly, Twitter and Tumblr don't pass the barf test either.
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Apr 10, 2016 14:52
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Shut the gently caress up Cingulate
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Apr 10, 2016 14:54
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A White Guy posted:hbombersguy's new video about rationalists freaking out over female ghostbusters is beautiful Can't wait for his video on Rogue One, because it's a given he'll do it at this point.
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Apr 10, 2016 16:12
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Find your own poo poo to read.
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Apr 10, 2016 16:20
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In the current Tumblr thread concerning Yudkowsky's most recent repudiation of neoreaction, here's a post I made in response to Nostalgebraist, concerning just what Moldbug and Land got from Yudkowsky, and why Yudkowsky is in the unfortunate position of being relevant to discussion of them even as he's correctly of the opinion that they and their fans are fuckwits. I'd quote it here but you probably need the quoted context.
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Apr 10, 2016 20:37
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Anissimov is the most Schauedenfreude-tastic figure in the dark enlightenment. He turned from being an rear end in a top hat for Big Yud to being an rear end in a top hat for the dark enlightenment, only to find out even they couldn't stand being around him.
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Apr 10, 2016 22:49
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Magnusth posted:I used to follow thunderfoot just to laugh at creationists and because sceince is neat (and because i was very into "new atheism" in my teen years). This is sad to see, but not really unexpected. Yeah, I saw him doing stuff via some other atheist dudes I followed, and he always struck me as more interested in mocking people and saying how stupid they were than in actually addressing what their problems were. Just a big ol' ball of annoyingly smug hatefulness and little else.
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Apr 10, 2016 23:28
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Puppy Time posted:Yeah, I saw him doing stuff via some other atheist dudes I followed, and he always struck me as more interested in mocking people and saying how stupid they were than in actually addressing what their problems were. Just a big ol' ball of annoyingly smug hatefulness and little else. That's the problem with a lot of atheists these days. It's not about promoting rational thought or developing one's own moral code. It's just "follow 'gently caress Yeah Science!' on Facebook and start treating people like poo poo because you want to feel superior to them."
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Apr 11, 2016 05:19
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my experience as an atheist growing up consisted of feeling superior to people and finding it to be a deeply unsatisfying and even depressing thing i am, shall we say, not euphoric
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Apr 11, 2016 05:37
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More LambdaConf! A bunch of illustrious and respectable names in functional programming and more general open source sign a statement on LambdaConf and Yarvin. The reactionary response: a wiki listing them as SJWs. Courtesy the illustrious Vox Day. (To their slight credit, even Status:451 don't want anything to do with Vox Day.) loving Internet reactionaries, man.
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Apr 11, 2016 11:43
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divabot posted:The reactionary response: a wiki listing them as SJWs. Courtesy the illustrious Vox Day. A wiki listing them and dedicated to finding their dox and making them "unemployable". Burn the alt-right to the ground.
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Apr 11, 2016 11:51
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https://twitter.com/puellavulnerata/status/719273035887415296 https://twitter.com/puellavulnerata/status/719273122789257222 https://twitter.com/puellavulnerata/status/719273214229291009 https://twitter.com/puellavulnerata/status/719273360782442497 https://twitter.com/puellavulnerata/status/719273457494712320 https://twitter.com/puellavulnerata/status/719273529057886209 https://twitter.com/puellavulnerata/status/719273597622161409 Libertarians carefully washing their hands of this as if if this sort of behavior isn't an integral part of all the "anti-SJW" campaigns they've supported.
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Apr 11, 2016 12:02
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Also an integral part of their incredibly dumb philosophy. Ban lists are absolutely a thing that a 'truly free' market society would use, they'd just be voluntary.
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Apr 11, 2016 12:04
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I've seen at least one of the people on the list joking that it's a convenient recruiting pool.
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Apr 11, 2016 12:49
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Tesseraction posted:I've seen at least one of the people on the list joking that it's a convenient recruiting pool. The alt-right's hysterical shrieks of "SJW" aimed at anyone who doesn't think women should be hobbled to keep them in the kitchen has probably led to more people identifying as feminist as there would have been if the alt-right had never existed. I mean, look at all the companies and gamedevs that have openly come out as progressive and feminist since the gamergate kids started pissing and making GBS threads themselves a couple of years ago. Look at what neckbeard hate has done for Anita Sarkeesian's career. These pathetic, thin-skinned manbabies are the best advertising the progressive left could have.
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Apr 11, 2016 13:09
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Yeah for every accurately identified 'social justice warrior' - as in the people who shout and scream about every non-controversy - there is 5-8 histrionic right-wing dipshits to more than cancel them out.
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Apr 11, 2016 13:16
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divabot posted:More LambdaConf! A bunch of illustrious and respectable names in functional programming and more general open source sign a statement on LambdaConf and Yarvin. Possibly of interest to others: quote:If you would like to sign this statement, go to github.com/statement-on-lambdaconf, click edit, add your name/info/date in the section "Additional Signatories", and create a pull request. Brb, making myself unemployable.
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Apr 11, 2016 16:52
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Pretty much every actually good functional programmer is on that list, which makes me feel a lot better about the situation.
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Apr 11, 2016 17:10
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Tesseraction posted:Yeah for every accurately identified 'social justice warrior' - as in the people who shout and scream about every non-controversy - there is 5-8 histrionic right-wing dipshits to more than cancel them out. And I'm willing to bet that a goodly number, not all but a lot, of the dreaded sjws are kids in their teens or early twenties who are still trying to figure out their identity and place in the world. While the alt-right seems to have a higher average age, giving them less of an excuse.
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Apr 11, 2016 18:03
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Who What Now posted:And I'm willing to bet that a goodly number, not all but a lot, of the dreaded sjws are kids in their teens or early twenties who are still trying to figure out their identity and place in the world. While the alt-right seems to have a higher average age, giving them less of an excuse. Yeah as far as I can tell the transracial otherkin type of tumblrite is almost entirely composed of young people trying to come to terms with their own identity and society as a whole and growing up and all that junk. However I don't know if the alt-right is that much older. I guess the "figureheads" (if you can call them that) tend to be, but I just can't see older people going to /pol/ in any sort of large numbers.
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Apr 11, 2016 18:08
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Yeah as far as I can tell the transracial otherkin type of tumblrite is almost entirely composed of young people trying to come to terms with their own identity and society as a whole and growing up and all that junk. /pol/ skews older than pretty much all the rest of 4chan except /k/
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Small Frozen Thing posted:/pol/ skews older than pretty much all the rest of 4chan except /k/ That's actually really interesting, do you have actual data on that from somewhere? I was basically going off the people I've met who go to /pol/ but then again the people I've met tend to be around my age anyway so it's obviously not a representative sample.
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Peztopiary posted:Also an integral part of their incredibly dumb philosophy. Ban lists are absolutely a thing that a 'truly free' market society would use, they'd just be voluntary. Yeah, but they're cultural libertarians. This person (and all other insufferable technolibertarians) wants to "totalize" cultural spaces so that no one can come out against Yarvin's politics or voluntarily disassociate from him or his ilk. But of course, this is the moral high ground because they're opposing the (fabricated) prog social justice position that wants to purge and crush Yarvin in a display of tribal bloodlust.
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Who What Now posted:And I'm willing to bet that a goodly number, not all but a lot, of the dreaded sjws are kids in their teens or early twenties who are still trying to figure out their identity and place in the world. While the alt-right seems to have a higher average age, giving them less of an excuse. Yep, it's similar to why it's so pointless to get angry at student politics being dumb - we all had some terrible opinions 18-22, hell you're meant to reach full emotional maturity at 25 and funnily enough the 'social justice warriors' of this age and above tend to be people saying "stop saying racist poo poo you jackass" as opposed to "omg don't call cigarettes 'fags' thats so homophobic" people.
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Who What Now posted:And I'm willing to bet that a goodly number, not all but a lot, of the dreaded sjws are kids in their teens or early twenties who are still trying to figure out their identity and place in the world. While the alt-right seems to have a higher average age, giving them less of an excuse. Tumblrites are at worst rear end in a top hat teens looking for an excuse to bully people, and at best the exact opposite of that. With the alt-right, the scale starts at the top with "rear end in a top hat teen looking for an excuse to bully people" and goes down from there.
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Apr 11, 2016 18:36
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The Vosgian Beast posted:With the alt-right, the scale starts at the top with "rear end in a top hat teen looking for an excuse to bully people" and goes down from there. Stopping off at weird places like "hairy bath philosopher" and Jimmy Skulls & the On-Paper KKK.
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Apr 11, 2016 18:46
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Tesseraction posted:Stopping off at weird places like "hairy bath philosopher" and Jimmy Skulls & the On-Paper KKK. Jimmy Skulls and the On Paper KKK would be a great terrible band name
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Jimmy Skulls and the On Paper KKK would be a great terrible band name I'd go see that concert at a dive bar.
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I can't believe hairy bath philosopher is 29. He looks 40.
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Man, reading about alt-right people whining that their racist,sexist and outright horrible views being rejected by the mainstream is satisfying in a way. It also reveals the fact that a lot alt-right people have entirely bought into this fantasy where some sort of SJW faction is out to kill off all alt-righters (in exactly the same fashion they advocate doing to other people huhj). I keep remembering that post by that schizophrenic dude who talked about how hardcore authoritarians have exactly zero basis in reality - their political philosophy is based upon fantasy. How do you even argue with people who are so caught up in paranoid delusion that they refuse to take any evidence to the contrary as being a fabrication of the evil SJW masters trying to manipulate us? I guess the short answer that you don't. The long answer is that you relentlessly mock them.
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Who What Now posted:And I'm willing to bet that a goodly number, not all but a lot, of the dreaded sjws are kids in their teens or early twenties who are still trying to figure out their identity and place in the world. While the alt-right seems to have a higher average age, giving them less of an excuse. Parallel Paraplegic posted:Yeah as far as I can tell the transracial otherkin type of tumblrite is almost entirely composed of young people trying to come to terms with their own identity and society as a whole and growing up and all that junk. The older ones, like that Daddy Warpig moron always have that air about them of "40 year old who stopped mentally aging at 15, and hangs out with teenagers, because they're the only ones that are impressed by his lovely car and the fact that he once did a sex". Or they're blatant media shills like Milo, who still stopped aging mentally at 15, but managed to turn that into a lucrative career as a an angry, bigoted version of Professor Harold Hill.
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https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/719510676499218433 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/719510924147732480 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/719512634140323840 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/719513006212804608 You might say the treatment of tech workers today parallels the situation of another reviled minority during a particular historical period in Germany. e: lol https://twitter.com/ClarkHat/status/719506604585021440 Fututor Magnus has a new favorite as of 20:35 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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A White Guy posted:Man, reading about alt-right people whining that their racist,sexist and outright horrible views being rejected by the mainstream is satisfying in a way. It also reveals the fact that a lot alt-right people have entirely bought into this fantasy where some sort of SJW faction is out to kill off all alt-righters (in exactly the same fashion they advocate doing to other people huhj). I keep remembering that post by that schizophrenic dude who talked about how hardcore authoritarians have exactly zero basis in reality - their political philosophy is based upon fantasy. Not really alt-right as much as just plain fascist right but on NPR earlier they were talking to one of the people who came up with that "what would Trump's America look like" thing at the Boston Globe. It's a call-in show, and the first woman who called in said she was SO OFFENDED by it. Except that she was offended that the Globe would imply that the military would disobey an order to kill women and children - that the military is what makes this country so great and my son is in the marines and they would never defy an order. The host asked her "so you support killing women and children?" and she responded, without even hesitating, that those women and children may not be wearing suicide vests but are totally part of ISIS and need to be taken out. They had to tell her slowly that no, that would be a war crime, and they didn't just make up the idea that the military would disobey the order, high ranking military officials have said that in public. She just got mad and went WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CANDIDATE THAT HAS A PLAN TO DEAL WITH ISIS LET ME HEAR ABOUT THEM. We're now at a point where people don't even hand-wave away evidence to the contrary, it simply does not even phase them at all. It's not even cognitive dissonance because that requires that you actually hold both beliefs.
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Hermetic posted:The older ones, like that Daddy Warpig moron always have that air about them of "40 year old who stopped mentally aging at 15, and hangs out with teenagers, because they're the only ones that are impressed by his lovely car and the fact that he once did a sex". Yeah I can't quite figure out Milo, best I can tell he's a soulless husk inhabited by the angry ghost of Barry Goldwater or something.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Yeah I can't quite figure out Milo, best I can tell he's a soulless husk inhabited by the angry ghost of Barry Goldwater or something. He's basically just a person who reallllly hates certain groups and will act as a part of any group that will support that hatred.
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Alexander Hart from VDARE insists the alt-right are so too very handsome manly heterosexual men who totally get the chicks and how dare Republicans say otherwise. Airbrushed picture at top: Milo Yiannopoulos.
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Zerilan posted:He's basically just a person who reallllly hates certain groups and will act as a part of any group that will support that hatred. One of my "favorite" things he's done was basically try to defend internet comment sections which you could tell caused him to twist himself into a whole bunch of hilarious mental gymnastics trying to reconcile his self-image of a Smart Cool Guy with trying to support and defend some of the objectively dumbest things humanity has ever created.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Yeah I can't quite figure out Milo, best I can tell he's a soulless husk inhabited by the angry ghost of Barry Goldwater or something. More like the ghost of Roy Cohn.  Parallel Paraplegic posted:One of my "favorite" things he's done was basically try to defend internet comment sections which you could tell caused him to twist himself into a whole bunch of hilarious mental gymnastics trying to reconcile his self-image of a Smart Cool Guy with trying to support and defend some of the objectively dumbest things humanity has ever created. To be fair, he's been doing that ever since he joined Breitbart.
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