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yosposfs is actually btrfs because it's a bad filesystem and it's pronounced butterfs and yosposters never shut the gently caress up about food (except in this thread for some reason, maybe because we linux users are a bunch of emaciated losers or something idk)
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Mr Dog posted:yosposfs is actually btrfs because it's a bad filesystem and it's pronounced butterfs and yosposters never shut the gently caress up about food fscked up if true
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Soricidus posted:fat already exists tho? 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Mr Dog posted:i used xfs briefly back in the linux 2.4 days. it would reliably zero out every single file that was open at the time of a system crash. every single time. suffice it to say i didn't touch xfs again after that. xfs practically requires write barriers, because without them, you end up with corrupt/missing data. linux 2.4 didn't have write barriers. early versions of linux 2.6 did have write barrier support, but wouldn't handle write barriers correctly on lvm/md devices, which meant that they were still largely unused. (this has been fixed for a few years now, thank god.) in the bad old days, if you wanted your data to remain intact, you used ext3 w/ data journaling enabled  Mr Dog posted:then again, linux itself pre 2.6 was a toy and you would have been a fool to trust it with anything important. linux 2.4 was a loving crapsack shitshow they decided not to postpone forking off a new development kernel (linux 2.5) and just kept developing major changes in the "stable" 2.4 line. so all linux systems everywhere, even red hat, crashed constantly, for years, due to feature/bug churn.
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atomicthumbs posted:also fs compression rules because if you have a semi-modern processor instead of a Cyrix or whatever it makes computer faster. btrfs supports both LZO and LZMA so you can choose LZO for low overhead if you're not entirely storing compressible data lvm already has a compression layer that doesn't depend on somebody's buggy layer-violating code that replaces half the vfs nobody uses it, because fs compression solves the wrong problem
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Mr Dog posted:it's a copy-on-write fs that completely shits the bed performance-wise if you try to store anything nontrivial on it like a database or (ironically) a systemd binary journal (systemd has a btrfs-specific workaround in it for this problem). boohoo I have to write "chattr +C" on my folder filled with VM disk images, this filesystem is purebred poo poo
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copy on write owns those freespace mostly stemmed from btrfs using a background worker (btrfs-freespace) to count how much free space you had left, often not updating fast enough if you deleted/created large files when running low on space. linux 4.5 introduced a new freespace tracking mechanism made by facebook, you can try it out with the mount option space_cache=v2
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heads up arch linux updated to gtk3 3.20 and now a lot of themes are broken until updated instead of just defaulting to the standard theme things will just be transparent and hosed lol
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Apr 10, 2016 22:41
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Zom Aur posted:heads up it's not a bug it's
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lvm already has a compression layer that doesn't depend on somebody's buggy layer-violating code that replaces half the vfs My problem: linux is too large.
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Arch is such trash. It's the new Gentoo.
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ratbert90 posted:Arch is such trash. It's the new Gentoo. purestrain packages and wannabe hackers its swell
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Apr 10, 2016 23:32
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eschaton posted:FreeBSD is good and doesn't have systemd i tried to use the new freebsd release at work but the thing that installs pkg refused to take proxy information from $http_proxy or $https_proxy so I gave up
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Apr 10, 2016 23:33
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last week I found out apparently were one of the last big users of AIX, which is cool in a terrifying sort of way
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ahmeni posted:last week I found out apparently were one of the last big users of AIX, which is cool in a terrifying sort of way 1. i read this as "one of the last big users of atx" which would also seem to be long overdue 2. what
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ahmeni posted:last week I found out apparently were one of the last big users of AIX, which is cool in a terrifying sort of way you work for ibm?
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Zom Aur posted:heads up theming and transparent terminals two inexplicable obsessions of people who don't use their computers to do actual work
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blowfish posted:1. i read this as "one of the last big users of atx" which would also seem to be long overdue no these are giant fuckin powerpc servers, most poo poo is transitioning to regular RHEL7 for humans carry on then posted:you work for ibm? anyone who runs websphere on their platform does, imo
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Apr 11, 2016 00:21
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Mr Dog posted:theming and transparent terminals
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Apr 11, 2016 00:25
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I use transparent terminals for work 
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ratbert90 posted:I use transparent terminals for work Sometimes people use their computers for things other than work too. That's also fine
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having a theme people notice would require people being able to stand your smell long enough to get close to you
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ahmeni posted:having a theme people notice would require people being able to stand your smell long enough to get close to you Nah, just snapchat them photos of your monitor Easy
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I actually use the transparent terminal to put RFC's up in a PDF while I type on the Terminal. Also my terminal is Black background Orange font. 
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Tankakern posted:boohoo I have to write "chattr +C" on my folder filled with VM disk images, this filesystem is purebred poo poo this, but unironically searching for non-standard chattrs because running a VM sucks poo poo shouldn't be a normal part of the user experience.
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ahmeni posted:last week I found out apparently were one of the last big users of AIX, which is cool in a terrifying sort of way same it's sad and terrible. i am so glad i don't have to port code to/from those beasts
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Zom Aur posted:Sometimes people use their computers for things other than work too. That's also fine Theming is still tacky though. I mean, it's still not great that GNOME breaks compatibility, don't get me wrong.
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most of the compat breaks are due to us supporting more css because theming authors want that, and then get mad when their * { background-color: gray; } selectors match on more elements than it did last release
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Suspicious Dish posted:most of the compat breaks are due to us supporting more css because theming authors want that, and then get mad when their * { background-color: gray; } selectors match on more elements than it did last release
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ratbert90 posted:Arch is such trash. It's the new Gentoo. Just as I was glad gentoo existed, I'm glad arch exists, for the exact same reason: if you have a problem, any problem, with your lunix, just google it. Someone already had it on gentoo/arch. I'd never use it myself thou
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yeah the only reason i like arch is due to its wiki and the forums
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i like debian because their mailing lists are so easy to read
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mailing lists are the dumbest possible way to do conversation chains and its really telling that they're super popular with Linux users.
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iḿ going to have to agree with shaggar that email is retarded for real time chat
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its retarded for turn based chat too, but we use it because its the least common denominator between organizations. mailing lists exist to fulfill intra-organizational chat which belongs on the web either in a forums or web chat or both. of course Linux users are dumb as gently caress so they'll just go and create multithreaded conversation forums
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Shaggar posted:mailing lists are the dumbest possible way to do conversation chains and its really telling that they're super popular with Linux users. Celexi posted:iḿ going to have to agree with shaggar that email is retarded for real time chat it's almost impossible to get the link right if you're trying to find someones problem/solution in a series of emails. conversations or replies just vanish
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yeah, don't use email.
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also the mailing list archives are always served from a potato connected to the internet with a clothes line
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Shaggar posted:mailing lists are the dumbest possible way to do conversation chains and its really telling that they're super popular with Linux users. super agreed
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Shaggar posted:its retarded for turn based chat too, but we use it because its the least common denominator between organizations. mailing lists exist to fulfill intra-organizational chat which belongs on the web either in a forums or web chat or both. the best part is they do that so it looks like a mailing list archive
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