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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

tbf the survivors probably got money from workman's comp for missing work the next day

The destruction of the towers lead to some interesting legal questions. If the insurance policy has a per‐event cap, does two plane crashes mean two events, or does being part of the same plot make them one event?

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ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

tbf the survivors probably got money from workman's comp for missing work the next day

Hard to show up for work when your office is a pile of rubble and broken glass.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Decrepus posted:

Right you are, Ken.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Decrepus posted:

Right you are, Ken.

Same thing I thought.

And now we go to Guy LeDouche with the contestants.

Jesus Christ
Jun 1, 2000

mods if you can make this my avatar I will gladly pay 10bux to the coffers

Decrepus posted:

Right you are, Ken.

:golfclap:

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Platystemon posted:

The destruction of the towers lead to some interesting legal questions. If the insurance policy has a per‐event cap, does two plane crashes mean two events, or does being part of the same plot make them one event?

I'll look it up, but apparently the owner of the property actually had that exact fight to try and get his insurance payout. He still got far less than what the towers were worth.

Captain Cool
Oct 23, 2004

This is a song about messin' with people who've been messin' with you

chitoryu12 posted:

I'll look it up, but apparently the owner of the property actually had that exact fight to try and get his insurance payout. He still got far less than what the towers were worth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein#Insurance_dispute

It went both ways with the various insurers, depending on how they worded the policy.

Wooten
Oct 4, 2004

Huge bridge laying machine is operated with an off the shelf PC gaming steering wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbaD2-2Ktwc&t=362s

6:02 in case the link doesn't go to the right time.

Frinkahedron
Jul 26, 2006

Gobble Gobble

Wooten posted:

Huge bridge laying machine is operated with an off the shelf PC gaming steering wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbaD2-2Ktwc&t=362s

6:02 in case the link doesn't go to the right time.
This isn't really bad at all. Companies like Logitech and Microsoft have spent literal millions developing controllers that are responsive, light weight, and sell for relatively low cost. Why reinvent the wheel? (:haw:)

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Wooten posted:

Huge bridge laying machine is operated with an off the shelf PC gaming steering wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbaD2-2Ktwc&t=362s

6:02 in case the link doesn't go to the right time.

tfw when your boss makes you finish that bridge machine video but you've already dropped the molly

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Frinkahedron posted:

This isn't really bad at all. Companies like Logitech and Microsoft have spent literal millions developing controllers that are responsive, light weight, and sell for relatively low cost. Why reinvent the wheel? (:haw:)

Serious answer: they’re not fail‐safe. There’s nothing stopping one broken sensor from jamming the machine in “full forward” or some other state you don’t want.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Platystemon posted:

Serious answer: they’re not fail‐safe. There’s nothing stopping one broken sensor from jamming the machine in “full forward” or some other state you don’t want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCDsge-3z0U

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Zopotantor posted:

Joystick Porn

:awesome:

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Platystemon posted:

Serious answer: they’re not fail‐safe. There’s nothing stopping one broken sensor from jamming the machine in “full forward” or some other state you don’t want.
The final layer of HMI can have less rigor if its connected to a system doing the actual controlling that you can separately estop or tell it to stop listening to that HMI device. Its like saying an off the shelf mouse is inappropriate because someone might spill their Big Gulp on it and it will click the blow up button.

e. I seem to recall Nissan wired up a car to be controlled by a PS3 controller as a Gran Turismo promo but I can't find anything about it because they apparently wired up a crossover to be a PS4 controller to play soccer

zedprime fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Apr 11, 2016

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Blistex posted:

It's used for emergency exit training. They cram the airframe with Chinese tourists and the flight staff has to keep them from opening the door for 45 minutes before they can get their Stewart certification. Apparently attrition rates are up there with Navy Seals.

At least Navy Seals have a log at their disposal.

JB50 posted:

Same thing I thought.

And now we go to Guy LeDouche with the contestants.

Oh man, the OSHA violations on that show :allears:

Wear proper reflective vests when getting crushed by giant foam rock.

CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Apr 11, 2016

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

tbf the survivors probably got money from workman's comp for missing work the next day

My uncle's company laid off all of the survivors, effective the next day. Very compassionate response.

hunkrust
Sep 29, 2014
I got an MA in asking leading questions about how sexism isnt real, and regularly fail to grasp that other people have different experience than me or enjoy different things.
I also own multiple fedoras, to go with my leather dusters, and racist pin badges.

Frinkahedron posted:

This isn't really bad at all. Companies like Logitech and Microsoft have spent literal millions developing controllers that are responsive, light weight, and sell for relatively low cost. Why reinvent the wheel? (:haw:)

Is it me or has Logitech started acting like razer lately?

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


Yeah we built some boats for USCG that were worth millions of dollars each, with a military-grade FLIR system that costs tens of thousands of dollars, completely operated by a $10 logitech PS2 knockoff controller. There was a double-sided cheat sheet with about 80 different button combinations for various functions. At least the gyro-stabilized remote gun mount had some sort of proprietary controller, looked a bit like a Steel Battalion setup.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Decrepus posted:

Right you are, Ken.
Courts would be a lot better if everyone had to dress like MXC characters.

I'd also accept "trial by japanese game show".

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Leviathan Song posted:

My uncle's company laid off all of the survivors, effective the next day. Very compassionate response.

lmaooooooo

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

sandoz posted:

Yeah we built some boats for USCG that were worth millions of dollars each, with a military-grade FLIR system that costs tens of thousands of dollars, completely operated by a $10 logitech PS2 knockoff controller. There was a double-sided cheat sheet with about 80 different button combinations for various functions. At least the gyro-stabilized remote gun mount had some sort of proprietary controller, looked a bit like a Steel Battalion setup.

There's plenty of pictures of the US military controlling bomb defusal robots with Xbox 360 or PS3 controllers. I do feel bad for the guys who got stuck with a Mad Catz or something instead of a legit controller, though.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Yeah I bet they got fragged more

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!
Right? Imagine if a person died because it was a Mad Katz?

"YOU'RE JUST DRIVING IN CIRCLES AND INTO THE WALL! THERE IS A HOSTAGE IN THERE, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?"

"SIR MY CONTROLLER IS A MAD KATZ."

"NO poo poo RAMIREZ, THATS THE GUEST CONTROLLER AND YOU ARE THE GUEST."

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog

chitoryu12 posted:

There's plenty of pictures of the US military controlling bomb defusal robots with Xbox 360 or PS3 controllers. I do feel bad for the guys who got stuck with a Mad Catz or something instead of a legit controller, though.

You laugh now, but that turbo button's gonna come in handy when you gotta open 4 suspicious packages at once.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
using video game controllers makes the drone operators feel like it's just like the video games they played growing up so it's easier for them to dehumanise the enemies on screen and send missiles crashing into wedding parties or gun down fleeing children

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

JFairfax posted:

using video game controllers makes the drone operators feel like it's just like the video games they played growing up so it's easier for them to dehumanise the enemies on screen and send missiles crashing into wedding parties or gun down fleeing children*

*Literally the entire plot to Ender's Game, IIRC.

Karma Monkey
Sep 6, 2005

I MAKE BAD POSTING DECISIONS
^^^ Goddammit beaten!


JFairfax posted:

using video game controllers makes the drone operators feel like it's just like the video games they played growing up so it's easier for them to dehumanise the enemies on screen and send missiles crashing into wedding parties or gun down fleeing children

Or exterminate entire alien species, eh Ender Wiggin? :cthulhu:

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

VendaGoat posted:

*Literally the entire plot to Ender's Game, IIRC.

lol really? I have never read that book

froward
Jun 2, 2014

by Azathoth
today i started a small fire while welding. i had cleaned the floor thoroughly but some sparks fell down onto another floor, igniting OILY RAGS left behind by a painter. drat painters. I put it out with my extinguisher and was politely asked "couldn't you just have stamped it out?" probably but i'm not setting my boot on fire.

Nobody died and I wasn't written up. So that's nice.

In my first week at this job I saw four fires in one day. None of them were reported.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

JFairfax posted:

using video game controllers makes the drone operators feel like it's just like the video games they played growing up so it's easier for them to dehumanise the enemies on screen and send missiles crashing into wedding parties or gun down fleeing children

Yeah, it's not exactly working. Not only are drone operators still fully aware that they're killing people, the thermal cameras give them an amazing view of all the death and suffering that you normally have to walk up close to see after spending hours or days monitoring a target and learning their routine and life to make sure they can make a good strike. The resolution of the cameras also means that they're always stressing about "Oh poo poo, did I blow up an innocent civilian carrying a shovel instead of a guy with an RPG?"

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

chitoryu12 posted:

Yeah, it's not exactly working. Not only are drone operators still fully aware that they're killing people, the thermal cameras give them an amazing view of all the death and suffering that you normally have to walk up close to see after spending hours or days monitoring a target and learning their routine and life to make sure they can make a good strike. The resolution of the cameras also means that they're always stressing about "Oh poo poo, did I blow up an innocent civilian carrying a shovel instead of a guy with an RPG?"

good, they're evil chickenhawk fuckers and I hope lots of them suicide.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
that seems a bit harsh

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

froward posted:

today i started a small fire while welding. i had cleaned the floor thoroughly but some sparks fell down onto another floor, igniting OILY RAGS left behind by a painter. drat painters. I put it out with my extinguisher and was politely asked "couldn't you just have stamped it out?" probably but i'm not setting my boot on fire.

Nobody died and I wasn't written up. So that's nice.

In my first week at this job I saw four fires in one day. None of them were reported.

As someone who makes and distributes "hot works permits" that tries to set up a paper trail, sign offs, and step by step instructions on doing any sort of hot works on construction sites you made me cry a little.
Then again I don't give a poo poo if your stupid wood frame condo development burns down, but by god there will be a paper trail showing who is at fault, who signed off saying the area was clear of risks and a fire watch was enacted for X hours after the work.

Also painters are the worst and love to jam rags and poo poo in wall cavities and vents that then burn the site down.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

It's a good rule to require each and every container of inflammable poo poo to be signed in a permanent manner by the guy who takes it out of storage. Of course it will probably take a police investigation and subsequent conviction for (the other) painters to realize that a signature actually means something.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006


Kid Sinister, Inc.

(Though it sort of looks like low voltage/telco? The pole to the right seems to have insulators on it to indicate High Volatage.)

Edit:


:stare:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

http://i.imgur.com/os60Cbq.gifv
Some good demo work here

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

froward posted:

"couldn't you just have stamped it out?"

Blow the rest of the extinguisher in their face.
"Would you prefer if I'd used my boots instead?"

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jerry Cotton posted:

It's a good rule to require each and every container of inflammable poo poo to be signed in a permanent manner by the guy who takes it out of storage. Of course it will probably take a police investigation and subsequent conviction for (the other) painters to realize that a signature actually means something.

My office struggled to even get a sign-out sheet for non-dangerous electronics made. It wasn't that anyone thought it was unnecessary. They just....never bothered? It never occurred to them?

Of course, the co-owner fell into one of her usual blind panics and attempted to suggest in turn that the office DSLRs and audio recorders be kept under strict lock and key with only one person being authorized to remove them for anything and everything, including her own impulsive "Why don't we just take some pictures of this unusual student in the classroom right now before they leave?" decisions. I put the kibosh on that one.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

JFairfax posted:

lol really? I have never read that book

there is a plot-critical preteen shower wrestle fight

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TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Here's a nice OSHA. For reference, the kid is about 5'9"-5'10".
I guess it's fine, but I've certainly never seen a pole that low to the ground before.

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