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Morbus posted:Good points all around guys. I checked up on the Energy Generation Megathread to read about the comparative reliability of Volvos and you guys did not disappoint. Please keep up the good work and lets try not to derail the discussion with anything about power plants, global energy production, or other stupid poo poo like that. I wanna hear what a bunch of laymen retard hacks think about cars because lord knows I can't get that kind of high caliber discussion anywhere else. Yeah, you're right, the potential for mass adoption of electric vehicles to replace a lot of the current internal combustion engines that consume 70% of all oil used in the USA each year has nothing whatsoever to do with energy generation. Let's let the thread go dead loving silent for another month.
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I prefer to read about what a bunch of laymen retard hacks think about nuclear energy.
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What do you guys think of the big solar plant they are doing in Morocco? http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/04/465568055/morocco-unveils-a-massive-solar-power-plant-in-the-sahara
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CommieGIR posted:
Mechanics still have a ton of work, but modern cars are amazingly resilient. I've been driving a car from 1998 for 8 years and it has 200k miles on it and I have never once had a problem that kept the car from running and getting me where I needed to go. Minor issues and maintenance, yeah, but nothing showstopping. That's the norm, not the exception. 90 years of experience and billions of units produced tends to make an industry pretty effective at making a good product. Electric cars have a lot of new problems to solve, but they're standing on the shoulders of giants, there are new parts and problems to work through, but a huge hunk of problems that cars have that have had 90 years of iterative development and problem solving are shared between them. Electric cars will be on par or better in terms of reliability after a handful of generations.
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Apr 12, 2016 05:51
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I had a 2001 Kia and a New Beetle and they had expensive problems and sucked. Meanwhile the worst problems my Leaf has had is a lovely a/c hose that the dealer fixed for free. Checkmate, ICEtheists. Elon is real, and our God who brings us what any true God does: tax breaks. But only if you believe. And reserve now. Ok seriously though I'm really sad that Ivanpah was apparently such a disaster they might not build more solar collectors in the US. They're my favorite kind of power plant. 
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Morbus posted:Good points all around guys. I checked up on the Energy Generation Megathread to read about the comparative reliability of Volvos and you guys did not disappoint. Please keep up the good work and lets try not to derail the discussion with anything about power plants, global energy production, or other stupid poo poo like that. I wanna hear what a bunch of laymen retard hacks think about cars because lord knows I can't get that kind of high caliber discussion anywhere else. Cars use energy. Electric cars require innovative energy storage and distribution. Seems relevant to an Energy Generation Megathread. Although maybe the title should be changed to "Energy Generation, Storage, and Distribution Megathread", to really clarify expectations?
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Meh. With generation, distribution is implicit.
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silence_kit posted:I prefer to read about what a bunch of laymen retard hacks think about nuclear energy. Speak for yourself. Real nuclear engineers and physicists actually post in this thread
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QuarkJets posted:Speak for yourself. Real nuclear engineers and physicists actually post in this thread No you see, my internet qualifications allow me to dismiss your internet qualifications.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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How far technologically is Best Korea behind in nuclear power development? Maybe someone should convince Un to become the darling of the world by being the nation to develop a reactor you can bury in the backyard to power the neighborhood.
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Phanatic posted:I'm not complaining about it, I'm pointing it out as a factor. I've seen far more chargers than cars actually.
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QuarkJets posted:Speak for yourself. Real nuclear engineers and physicists actually post in this thread Real (ex) automotive engineers do too. 
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Taffer posted:Mechanics still have a ton of work, but modern cars are amazingly resilient. I've been driving a car from 1998 for 8 years and it has 200k miles on it and I have never once had a problem that kept the car from running and getting me where I needed to go. Minor issues and maintenance, yeah, but nothing showstopping. That's the norm, not the exception. 90 years of experience and billions of units produced tends to make an industry pretty effective at making a good product. You can do this with cars from the 1980s. This isn't a new thing. Anecdote aside, I've seen plenty of new cars that needed major repairs due to poor design or poor maintenance. Its just the toll of a complex mechanical and electrical system.
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Peabody declared bankruptcy! The majority of the world's largest coal producers have declared bankruptcy in the last year I think.
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Trabisnikof posted:Peabody declared bankruptcy! The majority of the world's largest coal producers have declared bankruptcy in the last year I think. And demand is still rising.
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CommieGIR posted:And demand is still rising. So... consolidation in China?
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CommieGIR posted:And demand is still rising. Demand is rising slower than ever and half of projected demand growth comes from China, which is finally being honest about coal use. quote:Following more than a decade of aggressive growth, global coal demand has stalled, the International Energy Agency said Friday in its annual coal market report. The report sharply lowered its five-year global coal demand growth forecast in reflection of economic restructuring in China, which represents half of global coal consumption. Greater policy support for renewable energy and energy efficiency – the foundation of the COP21 agreement in Paris – is also expected to dent coal demand. IEA even describes a potential for Chinese coal demand to have already peaked, as economic and energy changes continue to occur there. Coal isn't dead but the prognosis isn't good.
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Trabisnikof posted:IEA even describes a potential for Chinese coal demand to have already peaked, as economic and energy changes continue to occur there.  I mean it only took China like a decade of smog to get the point, but now that they've gotten it, they're doubling down on everything but coal.
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CommieGIR posted:And demand is still rising. Very slowly, with a huge decreases in the growth rate in China and India in particular (US coal demand has been consistently decreasing for years, although our exports of coal has been up).
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Any move away from coal is positive. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/apr/13/solar-power-sets-new-british-record-by-beating-coal-for-a-day
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Mozi posted:we built this city
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crabcakes66 posted:Any move away from coal is positive. Drilling down to links to the actual chart, natural gas was producing more than double coal and solar combined. Good job?
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hobbesmaster posted:Drilling down to links to the actual chart, natural gas was producing more than double coal and solar combined. Good job? It sure pollutes a lot less, even if it still sucks.
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Nevvy Z posted:How far technologically is Best Korea behind in nuclear power development? Maybe someone should convince Un to become the darling of the world by being the nation to develop a reactor you can bury in the backyard to power the neighborhood. If I recall Best Korea's infrastructure problems, that may actually be the only viable form of nuclear power for the country. It doesn't just have a capacity problem, it's got really lovely HV infrastructure too so it'd probably just catch fire if you hooked it up to a serious power plant.
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fishmech posted:It sure pollutes a lot less, even if it still sucks. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas.
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CommieGIR posted:Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas. So roughly the same as coal when it comes to climate impacts and better in almost every other way? I'll take it.
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CommieGIR posted:Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas. Coal plants emit more methane during normal operations than natural gas plants do. Largely because most of the methane at a natural gas plant is being actively burned for power.
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CommieGIR posted:Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas. Which shouldn't be a problem, since methane isn't a byproduct of burning natural gas. Leaks however, yeah, wow. That leak in CA is gutwrenching.
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Trabisnikof posted:Peabody declared bankruptcy! John Prine laughs last. http://youtu.be/f2keQVXn36M
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Pander posted:Which shouldn't be a problem, since methane isn't a byproduct of burning natural gas. There was a study recently showing most of the Natural Gas rigs are likely leaking way more than they are supposed to, which is part of the issue.
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CommieGIR posted:There was a study recently showing most of the Natural Gas rigs are likely leaking way more than they are supposed to, which is part of the issue. For conventional or shale plays? Because they don't hold a whole bunch of gas back before they are completed anyways.
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25% less electricity usage for every household on the planet with this one weird trick. https://youtu.be/jwt0LK7KZ4w
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crabcakes66 posted:25% less electricity usage for every household on the planet with this one weird trick.  This is like some seriously breathtakingly stupid poo poo. This is "you will get better data bandwidth if you straighten all your cables because then the ones won't get stuck on the edges and can flow freely like the zeros" levels of stupid. ...It's going to make millions, won't it 
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Moinkmaster posted:
It's a little too high maintenance. The real sellers are the audio crystals that you can tape to your cables to get more audio fidelity.
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computer parts posted:It's a little too high maintenance. The real sellers are the audio crystals that you can tape to your cables to get more audio fidelity. http://www.analogueseduction.net/category-755/harmonix-cable-support-945-1.html
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computer parts posted:It's a little too high maintenance. The real sellers are the audio crystals that you can tape to your cables to get more audio fidelity. That was a good fplus episode.
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computer parts posted:It's a little too high maintenance. The real sellers are the audio crystals that you can tape to your cables to get more audio fidelity. Actually, this is done all of the time in electronics to reject radio interference in cables. You probably own multiple cables with crystals (well, the material is polycrystalline, not single crystalline) attached to them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_bead
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computer parts posted:It's a little too high maintenance. The real sellers are the audio crystals that you can tape to your cables to get more audio fidelity. Just don't forget to charge them up regularly by finding some guys on Craigslist
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silence_kit posted:Actually, this is done all of the time in electronics to reject radio interference in cables. You probably own multiple cables with crystals (well, the material is polycrystalline, not single crystalline) attached to them. Er, what he's talking about is literally loose quartz crystals, sometimes in little ziploc baggies and sometimes just on their own, or sometimes sealed in a big plastic case that you place on top of your speaker.
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