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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Lex read the script. That explains why he bombed congress and knew Superman wouldn't stop it, it's why he knew Superman wouldn't use his super powers to defeat 6 inept guards, and how he knew his monster wouldn't destroy the planet. Except the draft he read hadn't changed his name from Joker to Lex yet.
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What if Lex Jr is actually the Joker and the Joker in the upcoming Suicide Squad is actually Lex Jr who was kidnapped and tortured till crazy by the Joker? It would make Lex's actions in BvS less stupid by virtue of "a crazy man did it" and explain SS Joker's horrendous tattoos. What if I'm right? BvS would still be a terrible movie, that's what.
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Apr 12, 2016 21:59
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whatever7 posted:Except the draft he read hadn't changed his name from Joker to Lex yet. He's not going to kill this movie. He's just gonna hurt it, really really bad.
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Apr 12, 2016 22:09
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many johnnys posted:He's not going to kill this movie. He's just gonna hurt it, really really bad. 
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Apr 12, 2016 22:10
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the quote actually works better re: jared leto, who is talking to his career tied to a chair
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Apr 12, 2016 22:30
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[Jared Leto Joker torturing a guy] "Wanna know why I got these tattoos?" [smash cut to joker outside a tattoo parlor] "Neat."
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Apr 12, 2016 23:09
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Wonder Woman, Flash, and pretty much any god tier X-man have changed how powerful they are based on the writer. Doesn't Wolverine regenerate from a single cell at one point?
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Apr 12, 2016 23:21
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FogHelmut posted:Doesn't Wolverine regenerate from a single cell at one point? I think they explained his more crazy healings as being because he was under the magical protection of a magical samurai.
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I saw the new Suicide Squad trailer- it feels like they've been advertising this movie forever and it's driving me insane. But the trailer starts with a bunch of generals/spies sitting around saying "what if Superman flew here right now, ripped off the roof of the White House, and kidnapped the President? We couldn't stop him." Wasn't that Lex's whole point for like the first half of BvS, that Holly Hunter decided was ridiculous and no anti-Superman weapons were needed? And what the gently caress is the Suicide Squad going to do against Superman? Hey Deadshot, see how many bullets you can plink off Superman's skin!
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Apr 13, 2016 00:10
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boom boom boom posted:I think they explained his more crazy healings as being because he was under the magical protection of a magical samurai. In the cartoon he was like a skeleton in a vat and regenerated from that.
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Apr 13, 2016 00:15
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FogHelmut posted:Doesn't Wolverine regenerate from a single cell at one point? Deadpool's regeneration is actually better only because even if you permakill him to the cell, death likes him and chucks him back anyway which I thought was kind of funny.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Deadpool's regeneration is actually better only because even if you permakill him to the cell, death likes him and chucks him back anyway which I thought was kind of funny.
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Apr 13, 2016 01:09
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FogHelmut posted:Doesn't Wolverine regenerate from a single cell at one point? he gets cut up a lot fighting, then why doesn't wolverienes blood regenerate into millions of clones?
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Apr 13, 2016 01:12
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Rutibex posted:he gets cut up a lot fighting, then why doesn't wolverienes blood regenerate into millions of clones? Just another case for Intelligent Design
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Apr 13, 2016 01:22
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Leto has a good Joker laugh.
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Apr 13, 2016 01:27
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One thing I hate is people complain that critics don't like dark movies, just fun Marvel flicks. But why does that explain that the Dark Knight and Days of Future Past being popular? However, BvS has no substantive character scenes like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvqAfXyDcQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7LsBMA-rKg I can't imagine any scenes with such meaning or passion in a Snyder Justice League film. Also the interrogation scene in TDK points out how absurd that Batman is a guy in a costume beating up people and that maybe it's not something to take so seriously.
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Apr 13, 2016 01:55
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Nirvikalpa posted:Also the interrogation scene in TDK points out how absurd that Batman is a guy in a costume beating up people and that maybe it's not something to take so seriously. http://youtu.be/w2yv8aT0UFc
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Apr 13, 2016 02:03
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Nirvikalpa posted:One thing I hate is people complain that critics don't like dark movies, just fun Marvel flicks. But why does that explain that the Dark Knight and Days of Future Past being popular? CineD thinks Chris Nolan is an obscure arthouse director that only they've heard of. It's the only thing that explains the threads about his movies. "Inception is such a brilliant film for smart geniuses like me. There's no way any normie could figure out what's going on in this crazy intense plot." [movie is in the box office top 30] "People only hate BvS because they're Marvel fanboys." [Two Batman films are critical darlings in the box office top 10]
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Apr 13, 2016 02:43
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Even if you accept the dour tone, murderous Batman and dickhead Superman the editing in this movie is loving awful. I was hoping the DC would fix some of that but I'm having my doubts
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Apr 13, 2016 03:13
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Yaws posted:Even if you accept the dour tone, murderous Batman and dickhead Superman the editing in this movie is loving awful. It's bad on basically every conceivable level
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Apr 13, 2016 03:18
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big black turnout posted:It's bad on basically every conceivable level don't be so negative
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Apr 13, 2016 03:21
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Nirvikalpa posted:One thing I hate is people complain that critics don't like dark movies, just fun Marvel flicks. But why does that explain that the Dark Knight and Days of Future Past being popular?
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Apr 13, 2016 03:34
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Yaws posted:dickhead Superman We need more golden age dickhead Superman. 
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big black turnout posted:It's bad on basically every conceivable level wow can't believe you're literally saying that only fun marvelmovies are good and deliberately ignoring everything good in bvs just...wow
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Apr 13, 2016 03:54
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Is anyone astounded by the fact that children's cartoons handle the idea of dark Superman better? I've been watching Young Justice and Justice League and both don't have Superman as goody two shoes, but he is still miles better than Snyder's Superman. Why? Yaws posted:Even if you accept the dour tone, murderous Batman and dickhead Superman the editing in this movie is loving awful. Just curious, why exactly is the editing so bad? Could you give examples? I know that Perry White complaining about Clark being in Kansas and then jumping to a random character is an egregious example. achillesforever6 posted:Why is it that DC seems obssessed with the idea Batman is in fact bad and that Bruce is in the wrong for creating the persona I don't think the point is that Batman is bad, just that it's weird/strange.
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Apr 13, 2016 03:59
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batman goes to war with superman because he wont stop smackin' dame's butts all over town.
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Apr 13, 2016 04:12
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achillesforever6 posted:Why is it that DC seems obssessed with the idea Batman is in fact bad and that Bruce is in the wrong for creating the persona DC doesn't hold up Bruce as being wrong for creating Batman. These days it is portrayed as Bruce being Batman's alter ego. Also his parents are dead did he mention it yet?
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It's actually pretty good opie. I'm sorry you didn't like it, and wish you all the best in movie watching in the future.
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Nirvikalpa posted:Is anyone astounded by the fact that children's cartoons handle the idea of dark Superman better? I've been watching Young Justice and Justice League and both don't have Superman as goody two shoes, but he is still miles better than Snyder's Superman. Why? Because in cartoons, you're supposed to make something that's entertaining and has a reasonably tight narrative. You can't just dump two and half hours of brown music videos and jesus metaphors on Cartoon Network
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Nirvikalpa posted:Just curious, why exactly is the editing so bad? Could you give examples? I know that Perry White complaining about Clark being in Kansas and then jumping to a random character is an egregious example. Another example is a lot of the WW/secret videos sub-plot. It doesn't gel with any of the other plots, and the kinda climax of that whole story (WW watching some dumb youtube clips) gets jammed right before the climatic BvS fight. Even with all the ominous music piped over it, the scene comes off as comical and awkward at that point.
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Nirvikalpa posted:Is anyone astounded by the fact that children's cartoons handle the idea of dark Superman better? I've been watching Young Justice and Justice League and both don't have Superman as goody two shoes, but he is still miles better than Snyder's Superman. Why? In the DCAU Superman has: - Angrily killed Darkseid by blowing him up alongside Brainiac and injured batman when he tried to stop this. - Killed the president and overthrown all of the world's government's with his pals (in a parallel universe admittedly, he also lobotomized most of the worlds supervillains). - Openly flouted the authority of the united states multiple times to the benefit of himself and the Justice League to the point that the government starts to organize a secret program to combat the league when they notice a giant death ray was installed on the watchtower. - Completely lost his poo poo against Mongul and entrapped him in a lotus eater state. - Had his will taken over multiple times by various aliens and poo poo to wreck havok on earth. - Come within a hairs width of killing Vandal Savage, Lex Luthor and Mongul when they really pressed him. - Destroyed a city for low income people and got into a massive fight with Captain Marvel because he couldn't believe Lex Luthor would do something right for once. - Melted Granny Goodness's brains. And yet they still managed to make superman likable and relatable by not losing sight of his core good nature and showing realistic reasons for why he may do so unsavory things.
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Black Bones posted:It's actually pretty good opie. I'm sorry you didn't like it, and wish you all the best in movie watching in the future. What the gently caress did you just say to me motherfucker?!??! 
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:Another example is a lot of the WW/secret videos sub-plot. It doesn't gel with any of the other plots, and the kinda climax of that whole story (WW watching some dumb youtube clips) gets jammed right before the climatic BvS fight. Even with all the ominous music piped over it, the scene comes off as comical and awkward at that point. Yeah, like after a decade of superhero movies they still think we have to be convinced into accepting the cinematic possibility of superheroes.
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achillesforever6 posted:Why is it that DC seems obssessed with the idea Batman is in fact bad and that Bruce is in the wrong for creating the persona would you consider a rich 1%:er going out at night and assaulting and hospitalizing poors to be a bad thing
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Read Irredeemable by Mark Waid. It's basically Superman throwing a bitch tantrum and killing everyone.
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Nirvikalpa posted:Just curious, why exactly is the editing so bad? Could you give examples? I know that Perry White complaining about Clark being in Kansas and then jumping to a random character is an egregious example. A more general example- the day after I saw this movie I couldn't remember the order of a number of events. I can't remember when Luthor had the kryptonite relative to the wheelchair bomb. I can't remember when Luthor first got in to the Kryton ship vs. when he brought Zod there in comparison to almost anything else. Now maybe I can't remember this because I was drunk? But I suspect it's because the movie just winds itself between scenes for no real purpose. We don't really notice it because we're used to how action movies are edited, and we expect a scene to be a few minutes, then we cut to another one. Scene with the heroes, scene with the villains. Scene with the villains, cut back to scene with supporting characters to set up some context. Context cuts back to heroes...etc etc etc. And in terms of timing the movie matches expectations, the rhythm of scene changes mostly matches with what we expect. However, there's no rhyme or reason to those decisions, so going back everything seems a mess of order.
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Rutibex posted:he gets cut up a lot fighting, then why doesn't wolverienes blood regenerate into millions of clones? This is the plot of a Lobo run. Lobo is p.cool and the only way to do a Wolverine kinda character right. Complete farce and parody. SAlso Kevin Smith has backtracked HARD and now loves BvS even more. lol
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Dr. Strange trailer looks... interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwcSki7r9cQ
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ChogsEnhour posted:SAlso Kevin Smith has backtracked HARD and now loves BvS even more. lol haha ew
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I have a feeling DC suits don't actually read any comic and surround themselves with dumb rear end fanboys like Smith and Snyder.
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