GreenBuckanneer posted:

I'm just a little bit salty because I'm unable to make any income at the moment. Right now I'm training amarr fighters to 5 so I can fly a malediction because those look cool and can instawarp, but it'll be ANOTHER week or so for me to fly an interceptor because of the pre-reqs.

If we were flying rattlesnakes or ishtars, I'd be fine but I didn't train into any of this stuff at the bottom lol.

edit: and even if I wanted to, my "home stations" are all being camped by people afk stealthing, so I don't even know if it's safe or not. Which feels like some sort of videogame terrorism or something idk.

Kimsemus posted:

So I haven't seen it posted here, but the IWI guy replied to some of the accusations levelled against him and Iwantisk.com: http://archive.is/Ck38w#selection-951.0-1743.25

A notable excerpt:


In my opinion, he actually frames what happens pretty well and to a lot of people is making a good case of good guy vs bad guy with his "I'm doing everything in game, and I'm being attacked out of game for it"

Which is true, no matter how you cut it, and that is going to be a sticky point for a lot of people. I suppose it just depends on which narrative you subscribe to, but I do entirely agree that in game grudges should be kept in game, and if you're trying to sabotage people OOG for stuff in game you're bonkers.

I remember many EVE and goon meetups, including some recent ones, where we rightly make/made fun of anyone who takes in game rivalries into the real world. I've always felt that way as well. Last meetup we had, I was in Shadow Cartel, fresh off a war with the viceroy program, and spent a lot of time with other goons laughing about our fleet antics, shooting each other, and drinking beer. So I'm just wondering where people sit on trying to dox a guy's business, starting a smear campaign, and trying to get IWI banned as illegal. I understand that MBC is being funded by an OOG source, so a few people may feel like turnabout is fair play...

But on the other hand something sits very, very uncomfortably for me when my RL job, hobbies, or information are vulnerable and exposed because of the way in which I fly internet spaceships. I am just baffled with the defense of attacking a person OOG, a developer, a website, a business, or attempting to do anything else outside the bounds of the client to get back at someone. Especially troubling considering that this isn't the first massive smear campaign: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ia-investigation-update-three-investigations-concluded/

I remember two years ago I got so disgusted with WoW rated PVP I quit altogether after someone used a skype exploit to DDoS me out of rated games as soon as they saw my character zone in to one. I guess for me I never blur the lines between an in-game persona and who I am in the real world.

Sunber posted:

We DID live in ya0 though and that's gone too you idiot

Kimsemus posted:

So I haven't seen it posted here, but the IWI guy replied to some of the accusations levelled against him and Iwantisk.com: http://archive.is/Ck38w#selection-951.0-1743.25

A notable excerpt:


In my opinion, he actually frames what happens pretty well and to a lot of people is making a good case of good guy vs bad guy with his "I'm doing everything in game, and I'm being attacked out of game for it"

Which is true, no matter how you cut it, and that is going to be a sticky point for a lot of people. I suppose it just depends on which narrative you subscribe to, but I do entirely agree that in game grudges should be kept in game, and if you're trying to sabotage people OOG for stuff in game you're bonkers.

I remember many EVE and goon meetups, including some recent ones, where we rightly make/made fun of anyone who takes in game rivalries into the real world. I've always felt that way as well. Last meetup we had, I was in Shadow Cartel, fresh off a war with the viceroy program, and spent a lot of time with other goons laughing about our fleet antics, shooting each other, and drinking beer. So I'm just wondering where people sit on trying to dox a guy's business, starting a smear campaign, and trying to get IWI banned as illegal. I understand that MBC is being funded by an OOG source, so a few people may feel like turnabout is fair play...

But on the other hand something sits very, very uncomfortably for me when my RL job, hobbies, or information are vulnerable and exposed because of the way in which I fly internet spaceships. I am just baffled with the defense of attacking a person OOG, a developer, a website, a business, or attempting to do anything else outside the bounds of the client to get back at someone. Especially troubling considering that this isn't the first massive smear campaign: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ia-investigation-update-three-investigations-concluded/

I remember two years ago I got so disgusted with WoW rated PVP I quit altogether after someone used a skype exploit to DDoS me out of rated games as soon as they saw my character zone in to one. I guess for me I never blur the lines between an in-game persona and who I am in the real world.

Orange Red Bull posted:

To be fair his terms of surrender are for the SMA executor to eat a bag of candy dicks on stream which could have RL repercussions, imagine your boss finding something like that

mpaarating posted:

I think a lot can be extrapolated about people that aren't emotionally attached to previous imaginary home lands, but then again I'm no psychologist.

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

that dude is a retarded lying ape

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

scalding pass is my old home, idgaf about vfk

mpaarating posted:

I think a lot can be extrapolated about people that aren't emotionally attached to previous imaginary home lands, but then again I'm no psychologist.

Kimsemus posted:

Is the eating a bag of candy dicks thing real?

Haquer posted:

Hi everyone!
I quit playing eve a few years ago and was thinking about coming back to help goons!!

Anyone know if it's safe to undock in VFK-IV if I log back in? All my maelstroms are in there

Any help would be appreciated!

Haquer posted:

Hi everyone!
I quit playing eve a few years ago and was thinking about coming back to help goons!!

Anyone know if it's safe to undock in VFK-IV if I log back in? All my maelstroms are in there

Any help would be appreciated!

Haquer posted:

Hi everyone!
I quit playing eve a few years ago and was thinking about coming back to help goons!!

Anyone know if it's safe to undock in VFK-IV if I log back in? All my maelstroms are in there

Any help would be appreciated!

Haquer posted:

Hi everyone!
I quit playing eve a few years ago and was thinking about coming back to help goons!!

Anyone know if it's safe to undock in VFK-IV if I log back in? All my maelstroms are in there

Any help would be appreciated!

Kimsemus posted:

I don't know enough about him to be able to form that opinion, but what is actually going on then? Is the truth somewhere in the middle?

Is the eating a bag of candy dicks thing real? It seemed to me to be a kind of tongue in cheek remark because as I recall all he wanted in sincerity was the isk back that was stolen.

Even discounting IWI's narrative, I feel like my points about out-of-game vs in-game interaction still stand.

Sunber posted:

We DID live in ya0 though and that's gone too you idiot

Morris posted:

Assuming the "candy dicks" thing was a joke then yeah doxing the guy is pretty with no need to expand on it further.

Although I think part of it is desperation to find a way to attack an enemy who is literally unassailable, hidden behind real-life laws (as the real business takes place on private servers, to which unauthorized access would be a Big Deal compared to an in-game corp theft). That's for game mechanics/EULA to fix though.

Also there is the issue of people buying plex to fund a real-life gambling addiction... but the MMO industry in general depends on nerds with addictive personalities so the moral high ground is still pretty swampy.

Orange Red Bull posted:

Its 100% real the dude was on Matterals talking in stations show, said somebody told him to eat a bag of dicks when he was like: muh bankers and muh website so his terms are for EX River, the person in RL to eat a bag of candy dicks on a livestream.

Like reddit wouldnt meme that, upload it, tumblr it, twitter it and generally run it into the ground like they do with everything else.

His other points are all things he has posted on the fine print of his website. Nosy Gamer was the one who looked at his RL business not any IMP guys. Dude has zero credibility with the amount of perma-banned "bankers" he has.

Hubbl3 posted:

Oh no, I have at least 500 million ISK in assets there.

Kimsemus posted:

Is the eating a bag of candy dicks thing real? It seemed to me to be a kind of tongue in cheek remark because as I recall all he wanted in sincerity was the isk back that was stolen.

Glory of Arioch posted:

Orange Red Bull posted:

The point is: reddit doesnt even have a crippled baby leg to stand on talkin bout RL attacks. I cant count the number of bad gifs, webms and videos I've seen in the last few weeks with Alex's face on it. Imagine if a family member needed to google him for something.

But that all gets handwaved because Mittani.

Fix Lag posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4ejqnu/suicide_watch/

Fix Lag posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4ejqnu/suicide_watch/

Fix Lag posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4ejqnu/suicide_watch/

Orange Red Bull posted:

Its 100% real the dude was on Matterals talking in stations show, said somebody told him to eat a bag of dicks when he was like: muh bankers and muh website so his terms are for EX River, the person in RL to eat a bag of candy dicks on a livestream.

Like reddit wouldnt meme that, upload it, tumblr it, twitter it and generally run it into the ground like they do with everything else.

His other points are all things he has posted on the fine print of his website. Nosy Gamer was the one who looked at his RL business not any IMP guys. Dude has zero credibility with the amount of perma-banned "bankers" he has.

apseudonym posted:

CCP gave me 32 million skill points for the time I was subbed but unable to play/train skills. My main dude only has 29 mil total and I don't know what to train.


All cruisers to 5, make my drone and missile skills good and then maybe go for that blops I always wanted? Which would I go for for dropping fools?

Haquer posted:

Hi everyone!
I quit playing eve a few years ago and was thinking about coming back to help goons!!

Anyone know if it's safe to undock in VFK-IV if I log back in? All my maelstroms are in there

Any help would be appreciated!

ChickenWing posted:

All cruisers V, loads of support skills, if you desperately want a blops go for the majestic space trashcan panther

InternetJunky posted:

Would you prefer we undock one at a time, or would it be better for you if we just came out all at once so you could drop supers on us right away?

apseudonym posted:

My support skills are good, sadly most my pew pew skills are in projectiles which seem to be firmly in the poo poo category now. I'm not far from a Proteus so I'll probably do that too.

I'll probably post my skills in black ops later today to get some advice, my skills are all over the place. My plan last I played was to go for a panther for hop dropping and stuff, they any good? I could just as easily go for a sin skill wise.

Orange Red Bull posted:

CFC has lost the propaganda plot since Endie left, he did that poo poo right.