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I don't think the name Slav is a problem personally.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:56 |
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Palpek posted:I don't think the name Slav is a problem personally.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:58 |
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The English word Slav is really unpleasant to me, simply on an aesthetic level, so every time I see it used I subconsciously think it's a being used as a slur. I don't even think it has anything to do with being etymologically related to slave, it's just sounds ugly and hostile.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:02 |
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steinrokkan posted:The English word Slav is really unpleasant to me, simply on an aesthetic level, so every time I see it used I subconsciously think it's a being used as a slur. I don't even think it has anything to do with being etymologically related to slave, it's just sounds ugly and hostile. If the shoe fits...
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:16 |
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alex314 posted:Czech Republic will probably change official english name to Czechia soon. Which made me thinking: can Slav nations pick new name for "Slav"? Thanks to Germans it's too close to "slave" for comfort. "Slovians" is too close to slow.. Ok, fine. I propose Thrall(s).
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:17 |
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Wikipedia says both words are connected and came from Eastern Roman Empire. No idea how valid it is.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:19 |
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I've always heard Slav is from slovo, I guess denoting people who share the same words.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:31 |
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sparatuvs posted:I've always heard Slav is from slovo, I guess denoting people who share the same words. Slavic words for "Slav" such as "slovan" originate from "slovo" or related words, however the Germanic words "slave", "Sklawe" etc. and "Slav", "Slave" etc. have the same root ín the medieval Latin "Sclavus", meaning Slav, which is in turn taken from Old Slavonic and Greek terms used in the Eastern Empire, which were in turn borrowed from Slavic sources which were naturally referring to themselves with names related to "slovo", which brings us back and closes the circle. The Slavic lands were a large reservoir of slaves in early medieval times, for Europeans, Byzantines and Arabs alike. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Apr 14, 2016 |
# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:35 |
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Slave coming from slav by way of Byzantium is a pretty established theory I think.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:36 |
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Just go back a bit and call Slavs Sclaveni
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:44 |
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I'm fine with Venedes.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:51 |
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Lechites or bust
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 15:06 |
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Of course the Finnish word for slave ('orja') comes from the same root as 'aryan'
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 15:40 |
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A Pale Horse posted:Czechia sounds better and I like using it better than Czech republic so I hope they do it. Morawiecki left Kukiz'15 because they tried to give him a suspension. Neither him nor Zwiercan want to resign as MPs, though.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 15:47 |
alex314 posted:can Slav nations pick new name for "Slav"? Thanks to Germans it's too close to "slave" for comfort. "Slovians" is too close to slow..
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 15:54 |
Stefu posted:Of course the Finnish word for slave ('orja') comes from the same root as 'aryan'
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 16:22 |
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kalstrams posted:Guess who defeated Mongolia horde. The European terrain where their horse archers got bogged down?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 18:01 |
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Doesn't Slava mean glory in a few Slavic languages? I always assumed that was the link
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 18:13 |
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alex314 posted:Czech Republic will probably change official english name to Czechia soon. Which made me thinking: can Slav nations pick new name for "Slav"? Thanks to Germans it's too close to "slave" for comfort. "Slovians" is too close to slow.. Why can't they go back to being called Bohemia? The fact that they're not a kingdom anymore?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 18:44 |
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never trust an elf posted:Doesn't Slava mean glory in a few Slavic languages? I always assumed that was the link Slava means glory. Slovo means word/language.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 18:47 |
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Achernar posted:Why can't they go back to being called Bohemia? The fact that they're not a kingdom anymore? Bohemia ("Čechy") used to be by far the most popular name for the country domestically, but then people started complaining that Bohemia is a historical region that doesn't include Moravia and Silesia, so slowly Czechia ("Česko") became the more popular way of referring to it. It emphasizes nationality rather than any particular region, and is more in line with how the names of other European countries are formed. Bohemia is now mostly used when referring to the region itself.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 19:04 |
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Does anyone care about Brno's feelings though?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 19:08 |
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I don't think Silesia would mind, not anymore at least.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 19:18 |
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Baronjutter posted:Does anyone care about Brno's feelings though? It's better to let them think that they matter. Also it's kinda cute. Disco Infiva posted:I don't think Silesia would mind, not anymore at least. Parts of historical Silesia are still in the CR.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 19:28 |
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Baronjutter posted:Does anyone care about Brno's feelings though? No, and IMO Bohemia sounds way cooler than Czechia anyway. CR's fine too, though, at least it's not People's Democratic too.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 19:41 |
Well, getting rid of the "republic" bit feels honest to current development if anything.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 20:05 |
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anilEhilated posted:Well, getting rid of the "republic" bit feels honest to current development if anything.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 20:20 |
A Buttery Pastry posted:Who's the new king and prince-elector?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 20:20 |
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Honestly, I only think of it as Bohemia because I play too much Europa Universalis.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 20:30 |
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Gantolandon posted:Morawiecki left Kukiz'15 because they tried to give him a suspension. Neither him nor Zwiercan want to resign as MPs, though. She may not have choice if the prosecutors office decides to pursue charges and the Sejm votes to rescind her immunity, which they will.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 21:00 |
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The Russian MFA replied to the letter I wrote to them, here's the full story to save you clicking this link On April 6th 2016 Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova made the following statement about Bellingcat: quote:Bellingcat as an instrument to divert attention from investigating the tragedy of the Malaysian Boeing over Ukraine The opening of the statement appears to refer to the BBC article Twitter’s role in modern warfare in which Bellingcat founder Eliot Higgins is featured: quote:Eliot Higgins, the founder of Bellingcat, a company that crowdsources information about the Syrian and Ukrainian conflicts, found himself a target, particularly over Bellingcat’s investigation identifying the missile launcher said to be responsible for shooting down flight MH17. Bellingcat was concerned about the allegations made by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the statement, and contacted the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, along with the Russian Defence Ministry, which has made similar allegations, with the following message: quote:Dear Sir or Madam, On April 14th the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has replied with the following (translated from Russian): quote:Dear Mr. Higgins, Bellingcat has replied, again asking for evidence of Russia’s accusations: quote:Dear Sir/Madam,
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 21:23 |
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Do you expect them to actually respond with anything other than nonsense?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 21:38 |
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A Pale Horse posted:She may not have choice if the prosecutors office decides to pursue charges and the Sejm votes to rescind her immunity, which they will. Why would they? PiS controls the Sejm majority and they already tried to shelter her. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if she joined them some time later.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 21:39 |
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NAT-T Ice posted:Do you expect them to actually respond with anything other than nonsense? I didn't expect them to respond in the first place so anything is a bonus. Also note in their they make some pretty serious allegations about the official JIT investigation, so that's something.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 21:41 |
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Gantolandon posted:Why would they? PiS controls the Sejm majority and they already tried to shelter her. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if she joined them some time later. Its an easy PR win for them. They get to kick out and possibly prosecute a crooked, (technically) opposition politician and look like they're doing the right thing. Letting her join after she was kicked out of Kukiz for committing a crime doesn't seem like a winning strategy or look good at all to anyone who isn't already a PiS diehard. I haven't had time to read the article yet but from a headline I saw it looks like Morawiecki threw her under the bus already too. Then again PiS doesn't seem too concerned about looking like a bunch of incompetent malicious idiots with everything else so who knows.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 21:50 |
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In other news, my internet poo poo the bed last night so I didn't get to play the Putin Direct Line drinking game. Did I miss anything of note? Scraps from social media indicate there were questions about Putin's favorite type of kasha. I am quite eager to know.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 21:57 |
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NAT-T Ice posted:In other news, my internet poo poo the bed last night so I didn't get to play the Putin Direct Line drinking game. Did I miss anything of note? Scraps from social media indicate there were questions about Putin's favorite type of kasha. I am quite eager to know. A 12 year old asked this question https://twitter.com/KremlinRussia_E/status/720611799133986817
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 22:05 |
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Totally-unrelated-to-the-press-conference: the worker who asked a year ago about him and his colleagues not getting paid for building the Vostochniy Kosmodrome has been arrested for 5 days. (And he still hasn't gotten his salary). There also have been a bunch of FSB raids aimed at pressuring the owner of the RBC news agency to someone who would be less prone to let them do some occasional journalism.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 22:37 |
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Has anyone read A Very Expensive Poison: The Definitive Story of the Murder of Litvinenko and Russia’s War with the West? This review makes that whole story very interesting. Can anyone recommend it?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 23:48 |
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A Pale Horse posted:Its an easy PR win for them. They get to kick out and possibly prosecute a crooked, (technically) opposition politician and look like they're doing the right thing. Letting her join after she was kicked out of Kukiz for committing a crime doesn't seem like a winning strategy or look good at all to anyone who isn't already a PiS diehard. I haven't had time to read the article yet but from a headline I saw it looks like Morawiecki threw her under the bus already too. Then again PiS doesn't seem too concerned about looking like a bunch of incompetent malicious idiots with everything else so who knows. Let me tell you what else doesn't look good to anyone that isn't a PiS diehard:
They are past giving fucks at this point and they already tried to defend Zwiercan. Nothing is going to happen to her at least until the next elections. Also, Morawiecki seems far from throwing her under the bus: quote:Dodał również, że definitywnie kończy działalność w Kukiz'15, ponieważ nie zgadza się na udawanie, że posłów nie ma na sali i usiłowanie w ten sposób do osiągnięcia braku kworum w Sejmie. - Skończyłem działalność w Ruchu Kukiza. Panią poseł Zwiercan wyrzucono, mnie chciano zawiesić, więc odszedłem. I to już koniec - powiedział.
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# ? Apr 15, 2016 00:05 |