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Honestly, rather than beating my head against Tokyo, what I've been doing is going back and running Transylvania. Not for a new build - there's probably nothing especially wrong with a build that works in Transylvania - but because a) the quality of your gear still matters a lot (you're only applying a percentage of your damage to AEGIS shields, but increasing your damage still helps), and so piling up black bullion for upgrades is useful, and b) farming skill points means you can sink them into AEGIS skills, particularly the offensive one that gives you flat +% damage conversion. Capacitors are probably more helpful than that overall, but I couldn't find any rank 0 capacitors on the auction house and SP can be earned outside of Tokyo, unlike capacitors.
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That mod helps a ton. Thanks! Just getting back into this after, like, two years and am having fun again. I'm having the same troubles in Tokyo, though, so I guess I'll soldier on as best as possible. Then again, I still can't beat the Gatekeeper so I could just be a scrub.
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General Maximus posted:Also, install this mod: https://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?80429-MOD-ElTorqiro_AegisHUD
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Apr 14, 2016 10:16
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Gatekeeper can be extremely frustrating depending on the mode you do it in and the quality of your gear. gently caress it, it's frustrating in every mode but it teaches you to dungeon so it's not entirely bad.
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Yeah. I mean, I'm a mythic raider in WoW, so I'm not too worried about mechanics, but it doesn't seem my DPS is doing enough to get him through that first phase. Running sword/blood with a couple pieces of 10.1, but whatever. I mostly want it so I can do these stupid Nightmare dailies. On the plus side, I just finished the first story questline in Tokyo and got to meet a sleazy demon, so at least TSW is still top-notch fun for the single-player experience.
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What is a good build these days? I have some Pistol/Elementalism thing left over from when I last played years ago but I have no idea what's current and it seems hard to find advice for players just starting out (I'm still only on the New England island). Is there a go-to build, especially when I don't have access to most of the wheel yet?
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Apr 14, 2016 11:56
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I'm playing an ancient blade/chaos build that seems to do pretty well and as I recall wasn't too hard to fill out. I don't think there has been anything in terms of new skills in ages so whatever worked back when the game went buy to play will probably still work. Maybe you'll want a different aux weapon but those all have fairly cut and dry uses. One thing that doesn't work in Tokyo is leech healing though so that's something to watch out for.
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Apr 14, 2016 12:54
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Morglon posted:I'm playing an ancient blade/chaos build that seems to do pretty well and as I recall wasn't too hard to fill out. I don't think there has been anything in terms of new skills in ages so whatever worked back when the game went buy to play will probably still work. Maybe you'll want a different aux weapon but those all have fairly cut and dry uses. The only thing with older builds you have to watch out for is the fact they retooled a bunch of them a few patches ago in an attempt to get rid of the many redundant skills. So you might have to double check that they do the things they're supposed to now.
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Pilchenstein posted:Tower Defence is one of the missions I managed to complete so I've got the second set of controllers and I've been and upgraded one of them to 1.1 at the guy. I'll try that mod when I'm on later, thanks. My build is shotgun/hammer, it lacks any self-healing apart from turn the tables though, which is what I think is holding me back. Here's a build that should do reasonably well in Tokyo if you have anything resembling half decent gear. It's mostly shotgun/hammer with some passives from blade, blood and fist that should be reasonably easy to get if you don't already have them unlocked. Just go run some stuff in transylvania or one of the older issue arcs if you have those - also get the 10.1 gear from those if you haven't already, it's good to have. Run with one healing talisman and one or two health talismans and the rest in attack, glyphs in hit, penetrate and block. If you can find them on the auction house get a couple of aegis modules that do damage on weaken, that'll proc off 12 gouge which in turn procs off penetrates so any time you penetrate you'll do a pile of extra damage to shields, which helps a lot in taking them down faster. You're right in that you do need more self healing in tokyo than anywhere else, mostly because pretty much everything does higher than usual damage and has ground aoes to interrupt or dodge out of - use Kickback and Death From Above to dodge away or hit Unstoppable Force and laugh at their attempts to damage you for a short while. WEAPONS: shotgun/hammer (887 AP) ACTIVES 1. Scattershot (Shotgun->Securing the Perimetre, 9 AP) 2. Molten Steel (Hammer->Industrial Action, 16 AP) 3. Riot Act (Shotgun->Crackdown, 16 AP) 4. Stone's Throw (Hammer->Battering Works, 21 AP) 5. Kickback (Shotgun->Restricted Access, 12 AP) 6. Turn the Tables (Green->Survivalism, 16 AP) 7. Unstoppable Force (Elite, Hammer->Sledge Factory, 50 AP) 8. Death From Above (Auxiliary->Rocket Launcher, 50 AP) PASSIVES 1. Immortal Spirit (Blade->Technique, 1 AP) 2. Iron Maiden (Blood->Malediction, 12 AP) 3. 12 Gouge (Shotgun->Crackdown, 12 AP) 4. Body Piercing (Shotgun->Close Encounters, 21 AP) 5. Dark Potency (Blood->Profane, 2 AP) 6. Bloodsport (Fist->The Outback, 16 AP) 7. Cool, Calm & Collected (Elite, Hammer->Grit, 7 AP) 8. Rocket Science (Auxiliary->Rocket Launcher, 50 AP) Morglon posted:One thing that doesn't work in Tokyo is leech healing though so that's something to watch out for. It actually does work now! As of a hotfix near the end of February you can leech off aegis mobs if your controller matches the shield. It's based off the damage before aegis is applied so in theory you should get the same heal you would if you were hitting an unshielded mob. From the official patch notes: quote:We have updated the way leeching works in regards to AEGIS. Whenever you attack an enemy with a non-matching AEGIS damage type, you will receive no leeching as before. If you now attack an enemy with a matching AEGIS damage type, you will receive leeching benefits. The amount leeched is based on the damage dealt before any AEGIS calculations are done. In practice, it should be just as if you were hitting an enemy who did not have an AEGIS shield. The purpose of this change is to allow more varied build options when soloing in Kaidan and to make leech healing a viable option in Kaidan dungeon content.
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General Maximus posted:Here's a build that should do reasonably well in Tokyo if you have anything resembling half decent gear. Edit: gently caress me that was aggravating. Didn't help that at one point when they killed me the death ui didn't show up and I had to alt-f4 and start the entire mission over. 
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Apr 14, 2016 15:44
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General Maximus posted:It actually does work now! As of a hotfix near the end of February you can leech off aegis mobs if your controller matches the shield. It's based off the damage before aegis is applied so in theory you should get the same heal you would if you were hitting an unshielded mob. Oh! Oh, this kind of makes me want to get the band back together for a few runs.
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Man, that's a huge change and fixes one of the main the main complaints I had since not being able to leech heal myself made everything feel like a slog. Guess I'm updating when I get home from work 
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I'm doing so much better with that build you suggested, some levelled up aegis gear and the auto-switch mod - thanks for all the help. Also, the Fear Nothing Foundation almost made me forgive Tokyo its sins, it's one of the most atmospheric parts of the game.
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Pilchenstein posted:Cheers mate, I'll give that a shot if I make it out of this loving carpark mission without self-harming. Those spooky loving kids are super annoying bullshit once you have two at once to deal with. Pretty much everyone hates that mission, and getting better gear doesn't make it any less painful unfortunately. Getting a team to do it with however, makes it super easy.
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General Maximus posted:Pretty much everyone hates that mission, and getting better gear doesn't make it any less painful unfortunately. Getting a team to do it with however, makes it super easy. That mission is AWESOME... Its spooky and creepy. Once you figure out the trick it gets pretty easy
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I got quite annoyed with it just because the mechanic seemed pretty buggy and would kill me a lot even when looking at them. Leeching actually working in Tokyo now might make me reinstall.
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Zephro posted:What is a good build these days? I have some Pistol/Elementalism thing left over from when I last played years ago but I have no idea what's current and it seems hard to find advice for players just starting out (I'm still only on the New England island). Is there a go-to build, especially when I don't have access to most of the wheel yet? A lot of builds will work in the Solomon Island zones once you've got a feel for things again, but if you really want to mow things down, start with an all inner wheel Blade build and go from there (drop Delicate Precision for Fist's 1-pt Lick Your Wounds). Blade also has lots of nice outer wheel abilities. Inner wheel Chaos can add some magic AoE to Blade's physical AoE (some targets go down easier to magic damage), plus finishing that gives you access to the lovely 9-pt Breakdown. Finishing inner wheel Fist opens up access to the outer wheel tree with Bloodsport and Salt in the Wound, which is a great passive combo to add to an AoE build. e: Just be sure to have a finisher for both weapons. If you want something specific, here's a Chaos/Shotgun build I used before they made Solomon Island easier: Hello Sailor posted:I'm having good luck in Kingsmouth with a Chaos/Shotgun deck that takes a total of 53 points to put together. Hello Sailor fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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If I'm seeing a lot of glances, I want more hit, right? Penetration counters block, not glances?
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Hello Sailor posted:A lot of builds will work in the Solomon Island zones once you've got a feel for things again, but if you really want to mow things down, start with an all inner wheel Blade build and go from there (drop Delicate Precision for Fist's 1-pt Lick Your Wounds). Blade also has lots of nice outer wheel abilities. Inner wheel Chaos can add some magic AoE to Blade's physical AoE (some targets go down easier to magic damage), plus finishing that gives you access to the lovely 9-pt Breakdown. Finishing inner wheel Fist opens up access to the outer wheel tree with Bloodsport and Salt in the Wound, which is a great passive combo to add to an AoE build. edit: If I'm going to switch, is there a good place to pick up weapons? I think I'm using Pistols/Elemental because I have QL3 weapons for both just from random mob drops. Can I buy a QL3 shotgun or blade or whatever anywhere? Maybe my faction HQ? (Sorry, I'd check in-game but I'm at work atm).
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Just get a toolkit and craft something, if you don't have any post your character name and i'll mail you some when I get the chance.
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Do you get a bunch of rewards for finishing everything in the tokyo sidestories packs like you do for the investigations one? Or can I just gently caress this bank heist off entirely? While I'm on the subject, is there a single sabotage mission in this game that isn't a total arseache and/or janky as gently caress? I don't know why they keep making them. 
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Pilchenstein posted:If I'm seeing a lot of glances, I want more hit, right? Penetration counters block, not glances? Yes. My numbers are from where 10.5 was cap, but you want: ~650 hit, ~900 pene, ~300 crit, rest CDR.
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Pilchenstein posted:Do you get a bunch of rewards for finishing everything in the tokyo sidestories packs like you do for the investigations one? Or can I just gently caress this bank heist off entirely? Hey, I liked the bank heist. In theory. Yeah sabotage missions can be a bit frustrating but they're at least interesting. Also yes you get a special reward if you do all the side story missions.
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General Maximus posted:
That actually makes me less antsy about when I eventually work my way to Tokyo. Of course I still need to eventually work my way out of Kingsmouth, but drat it's just too much fun running around killing zombies.
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Morglon posted:Hey, I liked the bank heist. In theory. Yeah sabotage missions can be a bit frustrating but they're at least interesting. Also yes you get a special reward if you do all the side story missions. After issue 14 I think there's a new contender for the most annoying mission in the game. Used to be the bank heist, but you know what's better than having to be super sneaky? Being super sneaky while solving investigation mission puzzles. Seriously, the second to last mission of issue 14 is investigation and sabotage mashed together and it's hell.
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revenance posted:Yes. My numbers are from where 10.5 was cap, but you want: ~650 hit, ~900 pene, ~300 crit, rest CDR. I'm really liking Tokyo, initial slog and bank heist aside. The atmosphere is fantastic.
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Unless you're doing nightmare poo poo don't worry too much about it. Best way to gear the way you want is buy and upgrade custom poo poo, dungeon gear often has fixed stats that you might not want.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to caveat that those stats are to run NMs. That said, you can get there anyway just from regular questing since you get BBs now, right?
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revenance posted:Oh yeah, I forgot to caveat that those stats are to run NMs. That said, you can get there anyway just from regular questing since you get BBs now, right?
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Word of warning though once you get over ten poo poo gets really expensive to repair so do sabotage missions naked and otherwise be careful about just running past poo poo.
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So my infectious enthusiasm convinced a couple of friends to buy the game and when they got to the first faction mission and I was explaining how to check out the rewards for each rank, I remembered "Vault Data Access Authorisation" - does that do anything yet or is it still soon™?
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Apr 17, 2016 22:51
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Morglon posted:Just get a toolkit and craft something, if you don't have any post your character name and i'll mail you some when I get the chance.
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Alright, sent you some weapon toolkits and base materials, go nuts.
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Morglon posted:Alright, sent you some weapon toolkits and base materials, go nuts. One other question - how does DLC/issues work with this? There's a Steam sale on at the moment but they only list 6 pieces of DLC, starting with Issue 9. Were the other 8 issues pre-baked into the game when they dropped the monthly sub? I've already done some of the Issue 1 missions in Kingsmouth without ever having bought it. Basically, what do I need to spend money on if I want to be up to date?
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Base game has #1-4 Massive edition has #1-7 Ultimate has #1-11 Wait long enough and they'll have a bundle for the newer content, but if you want to get it all now, get Ultimate + #12-14.
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Pilchenstein posted:Do you get a bunch of rewards for finishing everything in the tokyo sidestories packs like you do for the investigations one? Or can I just gently caress this bank heist off entirely? I forget if that mission with/near the mortar or whatever in Egypt is a sabotage mission. But if so it's pretty swanky. Any time there's a huge number of people doing old content the place becomes a war zone with mortar shells dropping everywhere, bee's blasting cultists with rifles as they rush the bridge, and sword/kung fu fighting everywhere as both sides square off at the far end. The reason I assume it's a sabotage mission is because the mobs in the area past that will gently caress you up if you don't have a good build and don't try to solo them when you're equal in power to the area. Also I remember there being cameras or something everywhere. Archonex fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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So I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I can't seem to clear the solo starter scenario for The Venetian Agenda. My normal AR\Elementalism build has survivability problems, and when I switched to a Chaos\Shotgun build I didn't have the DPS to clear the waves in time. My gear is mostly blue 10s with a few 10.2 nightmare purples. Is this just a matter of gearing up or should I be trying something significantly different? I'm pretty fleshed out on AR, pistol, shotgun, chaos, blood, and elementalism, with a tiny bit of fist and basically nothing in sword & hammer.
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I just bought the tokyo exemption thing for 1 black bullion and never set foot in a scenario. The general consensus around here when issue 8 came out was that they're pan-fried wank, I dunno if they've improved any.
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See the thing with those is that while enemies will scale down to a manageable level when solo their numbers will not and essentially you're getting punished for not being able to be in two or three places at once. Get the exemption and never look back.
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Scenario success is very build dependent. I use Blade/AR for them, and have multiple builds that I switch between depending on what kind of enemies I'm fighting. Unfortunately, they aren't a type of content you can take your standard dungeon DPS build into. They really are just another piece of content you have to engineer an entire setup to do, especially nightmare scenarios. For NM scens, you'll want to invest a lot of BB and MoPs into a setup that is high on AOE DPS, leeching, and is very mobile. Considering the weekly MoP cap, that understandably turns a lot of people off. That said, there are a few really good reasons to get into scenarios. Once you get a build sorted out (feel free to send me a /tell in-game as Dresner) and you gear up to snuff, they are a good source of runes, MoPs, and augments (including gold augs). However, I consider them a very, very late-game piece of content. There are much better ways to accumulate BB and signets.
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