Auspol April - Long Live the Glorious State of North Queensland

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Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

many voters dont trust a man with a beard to run a country

# ? Apr 14, 2016 12:32

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# ? May 23, 2024 10:21

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

case in point Tom Mulcair

# ? Apr 14, 2016 12:33

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

I think it's time for a Bearded PM.

# ? Apr 14, 2016 12:36

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Then when budget cuts come the news media can use the term "razor gang" with added meaning.

They're commin' fer ye beard Chris!

# ? Apr 14, 2016 12:37

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

my research shows there hasn't been a bearded PM since 1914

# ? Apr 14, 2016 12:49

GoldStandardConure: Jun 11, 2010; I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow; Pillbug

Margaret Thatcher didn't trust people with beards.

We need someone who looks like Alan Moore as PM.

# ? Apr 14, 2016 12:52

iajanus: Aug 17, 2004; NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE

GoldStandardConure posted:

Margaret Thatcher didn't trust people with beards.

We need someone who looks like Alan Moore as PM.

Only if he can fly like in that Simpsons episode

# ? Apr 14, 2016 12:55

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Turnbull�s government has degenerated into a circus

The Turnbull Government has degenerated into a circus. It�s somehow actually worse than the Abbott Government. At least the latter had method even if misdirected by troglodyte ideology. The Turnbull Government has no discernible values at all and no method, either!

Witness the progression of policy since Malcolm Turnbull�s rise. He came to power with a very clear vision:

Ultimately, the prime minister has not been capable of providing the economic leadership our nation needs� We need a different style of leadership. We need a style of leadership that� respects the people�s intelligence, that explains these complex issues and then sets out a course of action that we believe we should take� We need to respect the intelligence of the Australian people. We need to restore traditional cabinet government [and] put an end to policy on the run and captain�s calls.

We were set up to be treated like adults and have the nation�s challenges explained to us then addressed, the economic challenge of the end of the mining boom being of primary importance.

Prime Minister Turnbull started slowly but OK with the innovation agenda which fitted with this reality but it was small and in now way lived up to its absurd hype of being an �ideas boom�, the ads for which are still rolling out all over at tax-payer�s expense.

GST reform could also have fitted with the structural adjustment theme and it was rolled out next. It was a way to help repair the Federal budget through boosting revenues and productivity via tax efficiency. But, soon afterwards it collapsed after it took heat from lobby groups and internal Treasury modelling showed it would hit growth. Why it was rolled out at all before this modelling was done is a pointed question given one should know one�s research before announcing policy plans.

Associated and afterwards came a narrative about bracket creep and the need for income tax cuts. This was toyed with in public for a few weeks then got suddenly junked as it became obvious (as if it wasn�t already) that there was no money for said cuts.

Then came negative gearing reform. It was also supposed to help address the budget deficit, as well as adding equity to a clearly and grotesquely unfair tax system favouring assets over income, old over young and rich over poor. Treasurer Morrison was wheeled out again to sell it but hardly were the words out of his mouth when Labor countered with a much more comprehensive and considered policy proposal. The Government panicked, flopped around for a week or so, then �pulled an Abbott� and abandoned all reform to negative gearing, leaving Treasurer Morrison high and dry once again, citing spectacularly dubious and widely debunked BIS Shrapnel research as his reason.

Next onto the comical tax conveyor belt was a company tax cut. It was bandied about in public for a few weeks before it too was off to the knackers as it again became clear that there is no money for it and, moreover, that yet more modelling showed that although it would boost growth it would also hit growth.

Throughout this tax schmozzle the Turnbull narrative oscillated wildly between post mining boom fear mongering, placing emphasis on the need to find growth, and half-baked solutions that rose and fell with the regulatory of a metronome. It is absolutely no wonder that polls have sunk throughout.

As they have done so the Prime Minister�s methodological madness has accelerated. Rather than pause and take stock on where he was going and what he was doing, the PM�s gathering maelstrom has in the last few weeks spun off a series hair-brained schemes like some crazy policy Catherine wheel:

perhaps spooked by his own failure, the PM engineered a remarkably self-serving and flimsy double dissolution trigger in its Australian Building and Construction Commission legislation (which is good idea) despite having declared consistently that he would run his term thereby immediately trashing his own polls given the severe lack of national interest in the policy;
he unilaterally shifted the Budget timetable to accommodate this desperate ploy but failed to tell his Treasurer and thus filled the media with a week of speculation about a failing relationship which, let�s face it, would be no surprise given the number of occasions ScoMo has been hung out to dry;
the day before COAG, the PM unilaterally declared that the states ought to be raising their own taxes and that they would get no money unless they did. Despite the idea having merits, the complete lack of a process to implement such an huge Federation reform agenda meant it was treated with the contempt it deserved by state premiers;
next the PM threw a high speed ponzi-rail Hail Mary proposal to link eastern cities funded largely via dealing the developers into the resulting land value increases. Just a day later, his own head of the task force, John Alexander, openly confessed that the plan was all about spreading the Sydney and Melbourne property price bubbles into regional areas, the very opposite of improved competitiveness and productivity that is need to address the post-mining boom challenge;
Labor then blind-sided the flailing prime minister again when it announced a Royal Commission into banking malfeasance, something that is years overdue, to look into both financial planning and interest rate setting scandals, so the desperate PM (or Treasurer or both) immediately responded by seeking to boost funding to the (ir)responsible regulatory body, ASIC, which pointed out that it was Coalition budget cuts that had gutted its functions in the first place.
The Turnbull Government is now caught between the reality of an increasingly difficult post-mining boom environment that it has acknowledged and having absolutely no plan to address it. Worse, Labor has filled that policy vacuum forcing the Coalition to fight it instead of governing.

As such, the Turnbull Government has no discernible narrative that outlines both the national challenge and the solution, and it has a leader popular for intellect, policy savvy and ideological centrism instead spouting populist fear-mongering, policy vandalism and Right wing garbage. Against his own benchmark of considered process and no �captain�s calls� Turnbull appears ridiculous and he is reliant increasingly on whacky, isolated and transparent PR clap trap as his only re-election strategy.

This goes way beyond bad advice, ideological confusion or the difficulties of governing in a down cycle. This is simple ineptitude and it goes straight to the top.

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2016/04/turnbulls-government-has-degenerated-into-a-circus/

# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:09

DAAS Kapitalist: Nov 9, 2005; Jackass: The Mad Monk

Don't try this at home.

GoldStandardConure posted:

Margaret Thatcher didn't trust people with beards.

So according to Thatcher paedophiles > beard wearers. Harsh.

# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:21

Skellybones: May 31, 2011; Fun Shoe

Well now I don't know who to vote for!

# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:32

GoldStandardConure: Jun 11, 2010; I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow; Pillbug

Skellybones posted:

Well now I don't know who to vote for!

Me.

# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:35

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

GoldStandardConure posted:

Me.

congratulations you won the election

to be a clown

# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:43

GoldStandardConure: Jun 11, 2010; I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow; Pillbug

Birdstrike posted:

congratulations you won the election

to be a clown

honk honk

# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:43

EvilElmo: May 10, 2009

http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/21823/20041015-0000/www.doszpot.com/mp3/song-for-steve.mp3

Further proof Canberra is the best.

http://canberraliberals.org.au/our-people/steve-doszpot-mla/

# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:50

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

i like the narrative of government in disarray, dysfunctional, internal divisions, worst government ever, sounds familiar

liberal party brought this on themselves

# ? Apr 14, 2016 13:51

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

good.

# ? Apr 14, 2016 14:47

Urcher: Jun 16, 2006

Word cloud for March:

2016: J F M

2015: J F M A M J J A S O N D

2014: J F M A M J J A S O N D

2013: A M J J A S O N D

Highlights from last month's thread:

Tokamak posted:

They are still opening up chocolate cafes. There are dozens of the desired outcome. Who is more likely to find a job if you are a model job seeker who is actively looking for him in a place where he doesn't exist. Monis is a core concept in robotics. Buy a lego mindstorm, may god have mercy on your personal computer, then it's actually a pain in the arse to have to go through the cracks and causing trouble.

Negligent posted:

no one has ever played good cop bad cop before in the high court his letter writing was political and furthermore, 3 judges agreed.

That's before you even consider his protesting activities etc.

You don't need to have a 10 point manifesto to have a hecs debt, boom, passport yanked or whatevs. one thing to dodge tax, quite another to leave all your family behind forever.

they wont actually send a guy out to cambodia with a nailbat to drag you back

EvilElmo posted:

Well, not really. 61% believe the Government to delay the vote for senate reform. The LNP don't have said issue, they're in a coalition with the reforms and a leader few people liked, the Greens will do a preference swap with the LNP. LNP preference them in marginal ALP/Green seats and in return the Greens still had a down-tick in their vote drops. The reality is, the majority of Australian's are not in favour of the population voted Green. So clearly there isn't wide spread support for their policy on asylum seekers lost the ALP will complain about, get a shot at that seat are unlikely to make sure that happens because they want to preference the ALP had waved the reforms and a DD is called is the love child of Howard and Bishop remember, them both walking away from him will cut deep.

# ? Apr 14, 2016 20:06

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Urcher posted:

Highlights from last month's thread:

I'm not entirely sure you understand what 'highlights' are, friendo.

# ? Apr 14, 2016 21:15

Redcordial: Nov 7, 2009; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

Birdstrike posted:

I'm not entirely sure you understand what 'highlights' are, friendo.

And Tasmania cries out "Turnball, racist!"...

# ? Apr 15, 2016 00:12

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

rip docklands

# ? Apr 15, 2016 00:29

G-Spot Run: Jun 28, 2005

Website is getting flooded like our capital cities.

I just want to know if I can look forward to beach front property or a water feature in the basement.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 00:46

Goffer: Apr 4, 2007; "..."

SynthOrange posted:

rip docklands

i am fine with this, i'll only be a block from the beach

# ? Apr 15, 2016 01:01

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Also cheery news for the morning.

quote:

The young African refugee known only as S99 was in the midst of a violent epileptic seizure when she was set upon and raped on Nauru.

She was semi-conscious during the rape and is unable to identify her attacker. Now, she is nine weeks pregnant and desperate to have an abortion.

Since her rape, the young woman has attempted suicide. She continues to suffer from anxiety and post-traumatic symptoms. She can't sleep, and she has received no ongoing psychological care.

Abortion is illegal on Nauru and the woman - who has been accepted as a refugee by the island nation - is seeking an abortion on Australian soil, arguing it has a responsibility to provide her with the medical care she needs.

But instead of bringing her to Australia for the termination, Australian authorities last week transferred her to Papua New Guinea where, according to the country's criminal code, a woman who attempts to "procure her own miscarriage" faces a maximum seven years' imprisonment.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 01:08

Knorth: Aug 19, 2014; Buglord

SynthOrange posted:

Also cheery news for the morning.

Fuuuuck this country forever

# ? Apr 15, 2016 01:12

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Peter Dutton is a demon of some kind but my scriptures cannot identify which one.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 01:26

chyaroh: Aug 8, 2007

Anidav posted:

Peter Dutton is a demon of some kind but my scriptures cannot identify which one.

Legion?

# ? Apr 15, 2016 01:28

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

chyaroh posted:

Legion?

Legion had the common decency to jump in a lake and kill itself.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 01:41

Skellybones: May 31, 2011; Fun Shoe

Anidav posted:

Peter Dutton is a demon of some kind but my scriptures cannot identify which one.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 01:43

CATTASTIC: Mar 31, 2010; ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

SynthOrange posted:

Also cheery news for the morning.

Guess who

quote:

The latest refugee atrocity story presented by Fairfax seems to me to include an inherent improbability:

The young African refugee known only as S99 was in the midst of a violent epileptic seizure when she was set upon and raped on Nauru.

I am not saying the rape did not happen. I am saying that it seems very unusual when you see what a seizure looks like.

Maybe after a seizure?

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:09

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

I've laughed at every video that uses this guy, but this is a particularly good one.

https://www.facebook.com/BeyondGreenAu/videos/805039799612223/

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:18

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

QUACKTASTIC posted:

Guess who

Oh gently caress right off.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:23

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

He just cannot loving help himself can he.

"The jeering, gloating ring of youths
Closed in around a solitary boy,
Teasing and taunting him
Because he was black
The boy staggered from a blow,
The yells grew louder,
Humiliating and bewildering the boy
The colour of his skin was a cause
For ridicule
I wanted to help him
But fear sealed my mouth,
Held me back.
And soon I was yelling with the rest."

He's a pissy, weak coward who knows right and wrong but is so loving gutless he joined the oppressors rather than show courage in his convictions.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:25

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

SynthOrange posted:

rip docklands

I'm not seeing a problem here.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:30

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Jumpingmanjim posted:

I'm not seeing a problem here.

I am, my apartment building will be on the shore. And I hate sand, it's rough, and coarse and it gets everywhere.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:32

chyaroh: Aug 8, 2007

Zenithe posted:

Legion had the common decency to jump in a lake and kill itself.

Yeah, but it needed JC to get Legion out. Can we get the Queen to do that for us here?

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:36

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

So guns came into popularity because after the crossbow they were what enabled armies to field any old joe who didn't require the physical strength or skill to pull a normal bow. This strangely egalitarian move was justified because the schmos using the weapons would be the ones getting shot at and equality is fine if it is only among the plebs. This does give some insight into the mentality of the people who are clearly fascinated by metal and propulsion. I have to admit that I am among their number (fascinated by the technology) so if this seems like a cheap shot at gun nuts I include myself in any criticism. I have however restrained myself from purchasing a couple of hundred of guns and own zero. I have never fired an actual gun with a live round. Maybe my first would be too many.

There are some elephants in the gun control discussion room. Why has there been such a dramatic increase in hand gun ownership? Is it (as their licences require) due to the fast growing sport of target shooting? Well to unpack that a little, target shooting is becoming more popular because it is a requirement to own a hand gun. Leaving out primary producers there are only two reasons to own a firearm in NSW (Source: http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/131164/Info_on_obtaining_a_firearms_lic_FACT_Sheet_-_7_January_2014.pdf) Sport/Target Shooting and Firearms Collection ( :rolleyes:

) The purposes of personal and property protection are explicitly prohibited.

(people in the shire are bad shots/ the bodies are never found? :shrug:

)

It can't be entirely a coincidence that the use of firearms in crime and prevalence of guns in the community appear to be somewhat corellated. After the 1996 gun buy back there was a dramatic reduction in firearm deaths.

More guns in the community is clearly not a good thing and the huge increase in guns isn't just a few nut job collectors it is driven by our saturation in American gun culture, the campaign of terror fear and continual 'crime wave' beat ups in the press.

So once it has been accepted that gun control is a worthwhile goal then how to best administer it comes into play. As it is explicitly prohibited to own a gun for personal or property protection moving the storage of the weapons out of the home makes immediate sense. If a gun can only be used at a shooting range then it should only be stored at a shooting range. If you want to have one at your house best start work on a complying shooting range which leads to the second elephant. There is NO WAY, NONE, that the protection afforded a weapon in a single gun household can compete with that available in a specialist facility. Just the aggregation of cost (Note the shooting range example above) should make this obvious to all but the most dedicated gun nut (and it smacks of socialism!). I might be a keen squash player but I don't insist that I have my own squash court. All the necessary facilities for cleaning maintenance and production of ammunition could be provided to the competitive shooter at a fraction of the cost of doing it at home. The 'other people handling my poo poo' problem has been solved in safety deposit boxes since forever.

Perhaps the magnitude of the possible severity of the consequence of a lost or stolen gun should be built into legislation. Meaning that if you have a gun nicked you face lengthy imprisonment for failing to properly secure it. I've linked the flimsy nature of complying gun safes before. At least in NSW they have to be steel. The current laws are a joke and clearly (See buy backs effect on crime) less guns means less gun crime.

But these elephants don't even exist if you believe the gun nut.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/04/12/ban-adler-shotgun-being-skirted-gun-dealers

quote:

Gun dealers are modifying the Adler shotgun to enable it to fire 11 shots in as many seconds, skirting a ban on a seven-shot version of the weapon. Source: AAP 12 APR 2016 - 3:46 PM UPDATED 12 APR 2016 - 4:00 PM

Gun dealers are converting the controversial Adler rapid-fire shotgun so it can shoot twice as many rounds, sidestepping an import ban on a previous version of the weapon.

Plans to import the seven-shot lever-action shotgun were halted last July when it was banned by former prime minister Tony Abbott for six months, later extended to 12 months, only for a modified version that instead fires five shots in rapid succession to be introduced. It has now emerged gun dealers are using a legal loophole that allows them to significantly boost the magazine capacity of the weapon. One gunsmith and dealer in South Australia, who openly markets the "magazine extension tubes" via an official company Facebook page, is charging $250 to convert the Adler A110 to accommodate a 10-shot magazine, and one additional cartridge in the chamber. The modification enables the weapon to fire 11 shots in as many seconds without the need for reloading (For really viscious ducks and a better chance at fast target skeets).

The same gunsmith will convert the Adler A110 to its original seven-shot capacity for $165. "Latest shipment of barrel clamps has finally arrived so we are shipping out Adler mag extension tubes to the top names on the waitlist(sic)," a posting in February on the dealer's Facebook page states. "If you want in, we can put you on the pre-order list for the next batch." The development comes amid revelations more than 7000 of the five-shot version of the Turkish-made gun were imported into Australia in the past six months, and as a review considers whether the type of firearm undermines national gun laws struck after the Port Arthur massacre. The gun control lobby argues that technological advances mean even the five-shot version - sold under the least restrictive category of license which includes air rifles and paintball guns - should be classified as a semi-automatic firearm, warning tough laws introduced by John Howard in 1996 are being eroded.

The gun lobby disputes the claims.

Samantha Lee, the chair of Gun Control Australia, said it appeared the gun lobby had also convinced Justice Minister Michael Keenan that despite a ban on the importation of a seven-shot Adler, the same firearm with two less rounds was safe enough to bring into the country. "We know that decision to be even more absurd as we now know the five shot can be modified to become an 11-shot," Ms Lee said. Mr Howard has also rejected arguments from the gun lobby that the Adler A110 should not face further restrictions. "The Adler lever-action rifle is being argued to be not within the ban and it's really a weapon that doesn't have the lethal capacity of automatic and semi-automatics," he said. "I'm pretty dubious about that."

Eleven shotgun blasts in eleven seconds? Yeah totally OK. FFS.

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If the government is somehow now worse than with NTATA seems Turdball is also able to outdo him in embarrassing speeches in foreign lands.

quote:

Negotiated by Andrew Robb who is here today - the most successful Trade Minister in Australia�s history, and now inspiring his successor.

Who but the most tragic of all Australiaphiles in Beijing gives a flying gently caress?

quote:

Everything we�re doing, innovation, competition, trade and infrastructure is focused on powering jobs and economic growth. Now the good news is that we are most of the way through the greatest terms of trade shock in our history. And our economic data tell a story of remarkable resilience. 300,000 jobs created last year alone and real GDP growth of 3%. And today as we have just seen, unemployment has declined again, to 5.7% with over 26,000 new jobs created in the last month. That�s good news, but we cannot afford to be complacent. We have to get our policies right to be more productive, more competitive, more innovative.

Who actually believes this flannel? His talk about innovation is embarrasiing given his administration's continuing gutting of R&D and overpricing of tertiary qualifications. At least we expected NTATA to be embarrasing.

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http://www.ntnews.com.au/rendezview/reduce-indigenous-incarceration-rates-not-so-fast/news-story/8bd621664b1aeb471fab0e438b5dd644

quote:

Reduce Indigenous incarceration rates? Not so fast April 13, 2016 3:55pm Sara Hudson News Corp Australia Network

The Australian Bar Association is right in stating that the over-representation of Aboriginal people in the criminal justice system has nothing to do with racial discrimination. But while the suggestion by the Australian Bar Association to review mandatory sentencing laws for minor offences such as the practice of jailing fine defaulters is worthwhile, it is important to remember the reason why most Indigenous people are in jail in the first place. In the push to lower Indigenous incarceration rates the real victims are often forgotten � people who are assaulted or even killed by their family members, like the woman whose partner set fire to her genitalia because she �looked at another man the wrong way�. Abolishing mandatory sentencing for minor crimes is also unlikely to reduce the Indigenous incarceration rate as much as most people hope. The belief that most Indigenous people are in jail because they have been unfairly targeted by police and arrested for relatively minor �social nuisance� offences is not true.

Data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics on prisoner characteristics shows that of the 9,885 indigenous prisoners in 2015, only 1,069 Indigenous prisoners were in jail for offences against justice procedures, such as non-payment of fines. Most (56 per cent) were in jail for serious crimes such as homicide, assault and sex offences. As Indigenous lawyer and member of the Prime Minister�s Indigenous Advisory Council, Josephine Cashman, has pointed out, Indigenous family violence statistics are horrifying. Between 2012 and 2013, Indigenous women were hospitalised for family-violence assault at 34 times the rate of non-Indigenous women. Homicide rates for Indigenous people are also seven to eight times higher than the rate for non-Indigenous people. A greater proportion of Indigenous Australians live in low socio-economic, welfare-dependent suburbs or communities, leading to an increased crime rate. In saying this, however, it is important to note that these disturbing statistics are not necessarily related to Indigeneity, but rather are a problem of poverty and social dysfunction. Australia�s most disadvantaged postcodes have at least twice the rate of unemployment, criminal convictions and imprisonment than other postcodes. One of the main reasons the Indigenous incarceration rate is 13 times higher than non-Indigenous Australians is because a greater proportion of Indigenous Australians live in these low socio-economic, welfare-dependent suburbs or communities than other Australians. A 2012 Queensland study found the postcodes with the most chronic offenders were in remote and very remote locations with the highest levels of disadvantage. These are places like Yuendumu in the Northern Territory where at one time, 93 people from a total population of 587 were in prison. According to Australian Bar Association president Patrick O�Sullivan, there is no direct discrimination on the basis of race in the criminal justice system. For various reasons, mandatory sentencing tends to indirectly discriminate on the basis of disadvantage and the high rate of disadvantage experienced by Indigenous Australians, is why mandatory sentencing has had a disproportionate impact on them.

In fact, although many social justice advocates claim �the criminal laws and sentencing regulations unfairly target Indigenous people�, if there is any discrimination it tends to be in favour of Indigenous people. Overall, Indigenous offenders receive shorter sentences than non-Indigenous offenders for most crimes. The reason Indigenous people are more likely than non-Indigenous people to be locked up for minor crimes like traffic offences, is because Indigenous people are more likely to lack the financial means to pay their fines, not because the courts are biased. The Australian Bar Association is right to suggest reviewing the practice of jailing fine defaulters, but in the rush to reduce the overall Indigenous incarceration rate it is also important not to forget who the real victims are. Strategies to reduce the level of disadvantage and the corresponding high rates of family violence and intimate partner homicides among Indigenous Australians are likely to be much more effective in reducing Indigenous incarceration rates than tinkering with the criminal justice system ever will.

Sara Hudson is a Research Fellow and Manager of the Indigenous Research Program at the Centre for Independent Studies (CIS).

The dogwhistle and victim blaming are strong in this one but, even after all this, the clear issue is reducing disadvantage. The horrendous rates of indigenous incarceration are a leading indicator of the widening gulf between rich and poor. The addressing of this issue would see the other symptoms and the indelible damage done decline. It is really sad to see racial issues drive things in the reverse direction that our whole society needs. And yet here we are.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:39

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Keeps getting better

quote:

Nauru refugee fined for suicide attempt
Prosecutors had sought to have the man jailed over the attempted suicide.
Nicole Hasham 11:35AM
A refugee at Nauru has been charged with attempted suicide in a move island authorities say is designed to "stamp out" the practice.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:42

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Cleretic posted:

I am, my apartment building will be on the shore. And I hate sand, it's rough, and coarse and it gets everywhere.

Why are you living in Docklands?

SynthOrange posted:

Keeps getting better

Genius, why haven't we figured this out in Australia?

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:47

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Jesus loving christ. I really hope in my lifetime people are tried and jailed for this poo poo.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:49

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# ? May 23, 2024 10:21

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Why are you living in Docklands?

Genius, why haven't we figured this out in Australia?

I live in Southbank, because I work in Southbank. On the same street, in fact. I go home on my lunch break.

The lack of transport costs makes up for the slightly higher rent.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 02:50

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