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Zurai posted:Yes, but again it's an extremely specific party. You need to have Fran's SSB, Auron's SSB, and either Cleansing Strike or Heroic Harmony to exceed the debuff soft cap. In the future it gets a little easier with another Full Breakdown (Faris's BSB), two more ID 610 -50% debuffs (Fang and Cait Sith each get one), and a new stacking Attack debuff with Setzer's SSB. Not really? You can swap out Fran's SSB with just Full Break or Multi Break, since they don't stack anyway. You still need two of three specific SBs, but it's not as tight as one might think. Also just ran Chadarnook and she is apparently NOT weak to Fire, despite her story versions. She seems to have some bug with Summons; Ifrit wasn't doing anything to her. I just exited and I'm going to wait the 3 hours to run her again since I would have run out of hones. Edgar is definitely MVP this set of bonus battles though. Blind Shell for Orthros and Saint Cross for Hidon and Chadarnook. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Dollar pull on Relm 2 got me Flame Mail. Yay. I'll probably spend one last 50 Mythril on the Tactics banner, I should be able to make it if I stick to the Core dungeons.
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Apr 15, 2016 02:50
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11 pull on Relm 2 got me cat ear hood, the SB owns and holy poo poo the magic on that thing 
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Apr 15, 2016 02:53
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Anyone know what the healing strength of this new Cure-raise ability is, compared to Curaja?
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Apr 15, 2016 02:56
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SmockJoc posted:Anyone know what the healing strength of this new Cure-raise ability is, compared to Curaja? Curaga level. Generally not worth it to hone.
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Apr 15, 2016 02:58
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Curaise and Doppelblade can both safely be shattered since one is bad and the other takes extremely important orbs to hone ie. don't
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Apr 15, 2016 03:02
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Figuring out Chadarnook. My initial thought is to have a Battle White Mage instead of my traditional black mage, since magic holy damage is required to make any headway in this battle. Eiko can take the healing with her Flute and someone like Mog or Yuna can take the position of Diaga-slinger. Agrias goes in with Banishing Strike and Saint Cross, used to trigger its Demon Form and to significantly fill up her SB bar to eventually get Cleansing Strike down. Bartz goes with the ol' Steal Power Lifesiphon combo. Undecided on my support, could go with Setzer for the synergy and ability to use my Rising Sun+, or just tote Ramza with Tailwind for extra support and give him my old Thunder Blade. I suppose being in the back row isn't going to help me anyway. I'm most worried about running out of steam, honestly.
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Ultimate cleared. 0 medals lost. 0 SLs, although I did have a scare when he switched back to Goddess form below 50% with the whole party about to throw attacks at him...just in time to get knocked right back out because Tyro smacked him with Saint Cross first. Cloud (LV80) | Ace Striker | Soul Sabre++ (5*++ RS)/Red Jacket++ (4*++ RS)/Godo's Mask | Fira Strike R4/Lifesiphon R4 (SSB: Blade Beam) Rinoa (LV80) | Blood of Espers | Magus Rod (5* RS))/Mystery Veil (5* RS)/Terra's Pendant (RS) | Firaja R4/Meteor R3 (SSB: Wishing Star) Tyro (LV80) | Pride of the Red Wings | Zanetsuken++ (5*++ RS)/Red Jacket++ (4*++ RS)/Vossler's Gauntlet | Saint Cross R3/Full Break R2 (SB: Sentinel's Grimoire) Red XIII (LV80) | Fist of Dawn | Dragon Claws (5* RS)/Crystal Helm++ (4*++RS)/Omega Badge | Magic Breakdown R4/Power Breakdown R3 (SSB: Stardust Ray) Y'sholta (LV65) | Mako Might | Judgment Staff++ (5*++)/Royal Crown++ (4*++RS)/New Beginning Sphere | Curaja R4/Diaga R4 (SBs: Stoneskin II; Medica II) RW: Shout Not really much to say; I thought in Demon form he would be weak to Fire (otherwise Rinoa would be packing my R3 Alexander instead of the Firaja), but that ended up not being the case. Rinoa was REALLY poor this fight; I forgot to switch to Devotion before the fight and didn't get a single Blood of Espers doublecast, and Chadarnook's RES appears to be ridiculously high for a boss with a somewhat hard to exploit elemental weakness: Rinoa had 467 MAG and was only doing 5.5k a shot with Firaja/Meteor. Meanwhile, Tyro was doing ~17k with Saint Cross after Shout. On the Goddess form, which wasn't even WEAK to Holy. So the end result was that Tyro ended up doing more damage than anyone else in my party. I might be ditching Rinoa in the very near future for ultra hard content if this keeps up. EDIT: Actually worth noting that it wasn't just Chadnarnook who was abnormally resistant; the ++ fight was not taking 9999 from Meteor and the +++ fight wasn't even taking 8k; the RES creep is real; I would have hit 9999 in both cases if I had used Devotion instead of Blood of Espers though, whereas here that likely wouldn't be the case. the Orb of Zot fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Apr 15, 2016 03:07
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Wiped the floor with that ultimate. Just had tyro cast a Diaga on that demon form and then Agrias, Locke, and Gilgamesh went to town after Ramza shouted them. The thing didn't even make it back to the goddess form(or wait yes it did I just had a banishing strike queued up so it was there for like a split second). I like my new toys.
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Apr 15, 2016 03:10
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Is there a quick and easy way to tell which equipment has SBs other than to click and hold on it to view? Because apparently I've had a Soul Break weapon for White Mage for a while and didn't know it, and now I'm wondering if there's others I've missed and if there's an easier way than just checking each thing individually. There doesn't seem to be a way to filter "only SB equipment" in the menus.
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Apr 15, 2016 03:11
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should I do a final 3-pull on FFT goons I still don't have a non-generic relic from it
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the Orb of Zot posted:EDIT: Actually worth noting that it wasn't just Chadnarnook who was abnormally resistant; the ++ fight was not taking 9999 from Meteor and the +++ fight wasn't even taking 8k; the RES creep is real; I would have hit 9999 in both cases if I had used Devotion instead of Blood of Espers though, whereas here that likely wouldn't be the case. I feel like Summons are definitely the way to go - they were pulling their weight until Ultimate Chadarnook. Shiva/Bahamut for ++, Ifrit/Bahamut for +++.
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Zombies' Downfall posted:should I do a final 3-pull on FFT goons Pledge yr allegiance to the Valiant knife PS for those doing Chadarnook, she transforms from Goddess to demon after 3 turns (but also does an aoe Confuse so knock her into demon with a holy attack) and then transforms back to Goddess immediately after her 5th turn. Use holy  MAGIC damage to remove the demons physical immunity, you can use a holy physical attack on the Goddess to change the form at the start.
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Apr 15, 2016 03:16
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Chadnarook was easily defeated by the might of pen and paper to keep track of when he's going to switch. Also Flower of Trabia is super good for this fight.
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Apr 15, 2016 03:16
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ApplesandOranges posted:Not really? You can swap out Fran's SSB with just Full Break or Multi Break, since they don't stack anyway. You still need two of three specific SBs, but it's not as tight as one might think. No, you can't. 1 * 0.85 * 0.75 * 0.75 * 0.75 = 0.35859375 or ~35.86% base stat. You need two of the three of the Full Breakdown B/SSBs, Auron's SSB, and Setzer's SSB. EDIT: I believe you're missing the fact that Fran's SSB (and Faris's BSB) is a -40% Full Break effect. Full Break/Multi Break are -30%. Zurai fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Apr 15, 2016 03:19
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Zurai posted:No, you can't. 1 * 0.85 * 0.75 * 0.75 * 0.75 = 0.35859375 or ~35.86% base stat. You need two of the three of the Full Breakdown B/SSBs, Auron's SSB, and Setzer's SSB. God, Faris's BSB looks so completely busted.
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Apr 15, 2016 03:23
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One last 3-pull on FFT it is... and three 3*s. Man, gently caress this banner. That makes about 300 mithril for 2 generic 5*s and a whole bunch of hot garbage. I can't imagine having spent over $100 on that lol
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Apr 15, 2016 03:28
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I don't really have any holy abilities to deal with this ulti. Does curaga work on him? I also have saint's cross but only r1, and nobody in my parties can really use Dia spells.
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What's that, Chadarnook? You want to sap everyone in my party? Say hello to M'lady Trepe and her new friend Relm. Bwahahahhahahaha. I really SHOULD NOT have gone balls deep chasing Valiant Knife-fest, but that Chocobo Brush really turns Relm into a badass. Not to mention seeing her drop damage-cap Diagas on the ornery painting.  Ah, well, Basch Banner 1. Much like doing the right thing, I'm going to wave at you as you pass me by.
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Apr 15, 2016 03:38
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My 100 gem pull on the second banner got me Celes SSB I don't think I've ever had that happen before...only ever gotten 3 stars pretty much.
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FeralWraith posted:What's that, Chadarnook? You want to sap everyone in my party? Say hello to M'lady Trepe and her new friend Relm. Bwahahahhahahaha. Is it worth pulling on that if I already have HotE access?
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Apr 15, 2016 03:57
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the Orb of Zot posted:Is it worth pulling on that if I already have HotE access? Which, Basch? Probably not unless you're interested in trying to go all-in on holy damage shenanigans.
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the Orb of Zot posted:Is it worth pulling on that if I already have HotE access? Sorry, maybe just forgetting my abbreviations, but do you mean hymn of the faith or hand of the emperor? If you mean Hymn, then no, yours will work fine. If you mean Hand, then I don't really get the question. If you meant pulling on Basch banner 1, I couldn't really say, I don't know what relics you have. Basch's shield is the same buff as Hand, but the shield has +Holy damage, so that's something.
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FeralWraith posted:Sorry, maybe just forgetting my abbreviations, but do you mean hymn of the faith or hand of the emperor? If you mean Hymn, then no, yours will work fine. If you mean Hand, then I don't really get the question. Why would HotE mean Hymn of the Fayth? 
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Apr 15, 2016 04:18
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Selphie's RM2 should count as a magic holy attack for making Chadarnook vulnerable, right? It's not preferable to a proper ability but I don't have many viable casters so if that'll open him up to my physical dudes it means I don't have to worry about hones or giving up on mitigation to carry a holy spell.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:18
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Hell yes, dollar pull got maduins horn.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:21
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Aaaaaaaaaaand I just managed to beat Gafgarion as a level 42-ish party. Agrias with a Defender was the MVP. I had tried this about 2 levels earlier with a RW Sentinel's Grimoire, and while the fight lasted a while, I wasn't able to take down Gafgarion before his backrow shenanigans ran out my Curagas and Wall duration. Came back with a RW Shout, though, and killed him before he could backrow twice.
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The Mattybee posted:Why would HotE mean Hymn of the Fayth? Figured maybe he made a mistype. Was worth asking, anyway.
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If you have Hymn of the Emperor (sic) then Basch's shield isn't that necessary. On the other hand, that banner still has Fran's Full Breakdown SSB and Balthier's overhyped dealie, so it's not like the Platinum Shield is the only chaser on that first banner. Ultimate Chowderneck wasn't too bad; had a few S/Ls due to stupidity or bad counterattack timing, but I figure having 4 lightning-resist accessories (Necrophobe Ward, Bolt Ring VII, Bolt Armlet, and Coral Ring) helped a bit, too. Ultimately mastered with full medals.
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Ultimate Chadarnook was pretty simple! A bit rough in the beginning but once Cleansing Strike and the Protect from Tailwind went up, he was a pussycat. My RW wasn't even a Wall, it was Garnet's Divine Guardian for Haste and a stacking Resistance buff on top of that, plus a way to heal the Sap from Poltergeist. Bartz throwing out like two Trueblades of Legend in succession didn't hurt, either. Yeah. This is gonna work out just fine in the future. I lost only one medal, for Damage Taken. This is the first time I've ever beat an Ultimate with medals to spare. I'm so much stronger than I was before the Kaiser Shield, it's crazy.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:40
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100 gem pull got me another 3* rod, I think I've gotten 8 or 9 of them already too. At this point the $1 pulls are just an idiot tax since they only ever give me 3* trash.
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Do the ++ orb dailies have any pattern of preferential orb drops (like the way the + dailies have particular greater-orb drops from magic pots)?
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flowinprose posted:Do the ++ orb dailies have any pattern of preferential orb drops (like the way the + dailies have particular greater-orb drops from magic pots)? It doesn't matter since you always wanna complete them for the extra orbs and Greens, now.
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Evil Fluffy posted:100 gem pull got me another 3* rod, I think I've gotten 8 or 9 of them already too. At this point the $1 pulls are just an idiot tax since they only ever give me 3* trash. Yeah. So far I'm 0/8 on single pulls (30 mythril 200 gems) for FFVI. Jesus. My only synergy weapons are Soul Sabre (Celes' wind attack one) and Sniper (5* no SB). Could really use...anything... 
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 Beat Chadarnook on my first try (though I did have to S/L after I mistimed the second SG) with no medals lost!   RW: Sentinel's Grimoire I misread the conditions for this battle and thought you had to hit Chadarnook with holy magic after EVERY transformation (you only need to hit him once with holy magic in the battle to permanently remove his invulnerability to physical attacks) so I brought too much holy magic. Having Yuna with Diara chipping away at 3k a pop didn't bring much to the battle. If I had to do it over again I'd probably switch out Diara with Shellaga, or maybe swap Lenna out completely for another hitter. Sazh has Boon which helps out but I'd rather bring Shellaga and have him use Caltrop Bomb as a poor man's Shout (the game REALLY wants me to use Sazh for support). Also, make sure to get all of your walls/protectaga/shellaga up in the first goddess phase before hitting her with holy magic. If you make Chadarnook a demon too soon you can get unlucky and get hit with some nasty AoE magic before everything is up. Saint's Cross was very useful as Steiner (344 ATK) was hitting for over 7k/hit with it. I'd suggest saving 1 or 2 Saint's Cross for after Chadarnook is below 50% as he starts using Poltergeist (AoE Sap) against your party. Straight up physical damage didn't do too much. With Valiant Knife Locke (469 ATK) was only hitting for about 2.6k/hit, and only about 3.3k/hit after Caltrop Bomb. GamingHyena fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Had to S/L once because I miscounted the demon's attacks and hit the Goddess with a non-elemental attack, resulting in her putting everyone to sleep. Then she attacked Shadow, who has an instant-death causing weapon, so I didn't feel like starting to hit people awake with him. Otherwise things went very smoothly, but I've gotten crazy lucky lately so that's not saying too much. (Don't take this as me forgiving you though, game. I'm still way below average draw rates, so keep the luck coming!)
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Hm, will have to re-do Chadarnook; took too long to kill her in the Weak Phase and got Poltergeist three times. Going to bring in Auron and Gilgamesh instead of Edgar and Quistis and swap SG for Shout and see how that goes. That 1730 RES in Demon Form is definitely an obstacle though, Yuna's Diagas were only hitting for about 5.5k. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 07:53 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Apr 15, 2016 07:43
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KataraniSword posted:Balthier's overhyped do not speak of my boy so familiarly
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Chardonnay dead, although I swapped in terra where lightning usually sits (her sb is quite useless in this battle). Firaja hit for 7000 with 410+ magic, but I had her rolling diara to force change the demon form. Ramza with banishing strike hit for 9999, and tyro was hitting with saints for 19998 which was amazing. Three consecutive desperados sealed it
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It feels like a tremendous proof of concept to down all of the bonus battles without having anyone with Cure magic. Mastered Chadarnook with all medals and only had to Tailwind once or twice.
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