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Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy
Battlefleet Gothic has been the only good one so far, Kill Team less so but still better than the other trash.

I guess Armageddon 40k if that's your thing.

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HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


I enjoyed the Dawn of War book. It wasn't very good, but it was at least enjoyable in some small way.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Have there been any developments since the wulfen came back with the rock hanging over fenris

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
The Black Library really needs a style guide forbidding chapters over, like, 10 pages long.

They have to know that the majority of these books spend a good chunk of time on top of a toilet tank.

MMAgCh
Aug 15, 2001
I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you
I finished the Night Lords omnibus the other day and, well, it really was pretty good. The way it ended was moderately depressing in some ways, but that's in keeping with the general tone of the books, I suppose.

Meanwhile there are less than two weeks left until the deadline of BL's short story submissions event, and I can't get what I'm working on to gel terribly well. It's just as well that they're not expecting the entire thing to be finished because that's very unlikely to happen, but maybe I'll manage the summary and sample at least. :iiam: I hope everybody else who's giving it a shot is doing better than I am!

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

MMAgCh posted:

I finished the Night Lords omnibus the other day and, well, it really was pretty good. The way it ended was moderately depressing in some ways, but that's in keeping with the general tone of the books, I suppose.

Meanwhile there are less than two weeks left until the deadline of BL's short story submissions event, and I can't get what I'm working on to gel terribly well. It's just as well that they're not expecting the entire thing to be finished because that's very unlikely to happen, but maybe I'll manage the summary and sample at least. :iiam: I hope everybody else who's giving it a shot is doing better than I am!

Once I finish my exam tomorrow I'm going to go full tilt and finish my submission. It has to be 10000 words or less, right?

MMAgCh
Aug 15, 2001
I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you

Arcsquad12 posted:

Once I finish my exam tomorrow I'm going to go full tilt and finish my submission. It has to be 10000 words or less, right?
Technically there's no "or less", but it's probably implied? I've no idea how that sort of thing works in the publishing business. :shobon: Here's the link again for anyone who missed it the first time around.

I'm just shy of 1,400 words myself currently. The very beginning, part of the end, and some disjointed bits and pieces in-between. It's better than nothing!

jadebullet
Mar 25, 2011


MY LIFE FOR YOU!
They are looking for 500 words or less as an excerpt of your story, not the full thing, as well as a plot and character summary.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Anyone read The Unburdened/The Honoured? Looking for another HH fix and was wondering if they were at least passable. I seem to recall David Annandale's Space Marine Battles novel being particularly bad, though, it's the only BL book I've tried to return (Amazon just told me to keep it).

Chronic Reagan
Oct 13, 2000

pictures of plastic men
Fun Shoe
Has there been any recent word about whether Dan Abnett is going to finish the last Inquisition series? It's been 4 years since Pariah, which I really liked. I know he's probably busy with more lucrative work, but I'm still holding out.

Shazaminator
Oct 11, 2007
The power of Shazam compels you!

Pyrolocutus posted:

Anyone read The Unburdened/The Honoured? Looking for another HH fix and was wondering if they were at least passable. I seem to recall David Annandale's Space Marine Battles novel being particularly bad, though, it's the only BL book I've tried to return (Amazon just told me to keep it).

Unburdened was great - I really liked how the Word Bearers chaplain was portrayed especially, he's kind of unhinged and horrified at what he's doing at the same as desperately wanting to believe that helping Chaos is the right thing. It's a fun read, although there's a few weird bits in it.
It's not got much in common with Annadale's Space Marine Battles book but I would say it's similar to how he wrote Chaos in Damnation of Pythos, for what that's worth.

The Honoured I couldn't get past the first few pages with though. Found the writing to be really awkward and stilted somehow.

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009

FoldOgey posted:

Has there been any recent word about whether Dan Abnett is going to finish the last Inquisition series? It's been 4 years since Pariah, which I really liked. I know he's probably busy with more lucrative work, but I'm still holding out.

He doesn't appear to be posting anything 40k related on social media recently, too busy making fun comics for marvel after the guardians movie blew up featuring mostly characters he made work.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

If you're jonesing for some Abnett he wrote an Avengers prose novel for Marvel last year which is really fun.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/03/30/read-an-excerpt-from-avengers-everybody-wants-to-rule-the-world-exclusive/

Chronic Reagan
Oct 13, 2000

pictures of plastic men
Fun Shoe

Deptfordx posted:

If you're jonesing for some Abnett he wrote an Avengers prose novel for Marvel last year which is really fun.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/03/30/read-an-excerpt-from-avengers-everybody-wants-to-rule-the-world-exclusive/

I've read some of his work in the Marvel Comics area, and some of his standalone works (I liked Embedded quite a bit). I just want the Inquisition storyline finished. :(

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Pyrolocutus posted:

Anyone read The Unburdened/The Honoured? Looking for another HH fix and was wondering if they were at least passable. I seem to recall David Annandale's Space Marine Battles novel being particularly bad, though, it's the only BL book I've tried to return (Amazon just told me to keep it).

I was just gonna bring those up actually. I read The Honoured and it was seriously jist 200 pages of bolter porn underground, with about 100 of those pages being dedicated to talking about how tough Urcus the Terminator sergeant is. He seriously should die like four times but it just keeps going in and on. It was tedious. That being said, the excerpt of The Unburdened was pretty drat good. Made me wish I picked that up instead.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

I quite agree. It was a shame, I thought that whole 'race for the tunnels' scene at the start was really well done and I was expecting a good read, but yeah, turns out it's not good.

Edit: Say. Anyone know whatever happened ot those Paul Kearney books? I really quite enjoyed his 'Monarchies of God' series and it's always interesting to see what an established author can do with 40k.

I know there was the copyright issue, but I thought they were just going to reissue them under a new title,and that was ages ago.

Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Apr 23, 2016

jadebullet
Mar 25, 2011


MY LIFE FOR YOU!
Well, I just submitted my short story excerpt to Black Library. Wish me luck.

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx
Sacrificing a dozen Imperial citizens for no particular reason in your honour.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Sent mine in as well. Hoping for the best.

MMAgCh
Aug 15, 2001
I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you
I'm still struggling with getting the summary just right (the actual sample was child's play by comparison), but meeting the deadline still looks quite doable from here.

I'm not sure I am doing the actual theme terribly much justice, vague though it is, but at this point there's nothing for it but to hope for the best!

Edit: and I'm done. :rip:

MMAgCh fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Apr 28, 2016

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Gameplay trailer for Space Hulk: Deathwing.
They're nailing the walking tank movement.

Diran
Jan 28, 2014

Arcsquad12 posted:

Gameplay trailer for Space Hulk: Deathwing.
They're nailing the walking tank movement.

That actually looks like it could be fun.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Arcsquad12 posted:

Gameplay trailer for Space Hulk: Deathwing.
They're nailing the walking tank movement.

There is nothing about this I'm not "GET HYPED" for.

Well, maybe gav thrope. :negative:

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
Happily 'awful story' is pretty much expected with both GW stuff and fps'. So long as the gameplay and the atmosphere are good it'll be fine.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
If any of you get published you have to thank the thread

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Arcsquad12 posted:

Gameplay trailer for Space Hulk: Deathwing.
They're nailing the walking tank movement.

The Broodlord is way too big when it bursts through the doors, but other than that, I like it. The faces on the hybrids are terrifying.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihskUz0obzY

Oh poo poo, upcoming dance off!

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
$65 novella, anyone? Anyone?





Just kidding - don't buy this and encourage GW to continue doing poo poo like this.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

So now they're doing pre-heresy novels?

TheArmorOfContempt
Nov 29, 2012

Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?

berzerkmonkey posted:

$65 novella, anyone? Anyone?





Just kidding - don't buy this and encourage GW to continue doing poo poo like this.

I just mock them directly on their Facebook page.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

berzerkmonkey posted:

$65 novella, anyone? Anyone?





Just kidding - don't buy this and encourage GW to continue doing poo poo like this.
See, you can get the hardback, not special edition version on Amazon, but it's listed as 220 pages or something like that. I'm tired of novellas, give me real books dammit.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

SRM posted:

See, you can get the hardback, not special edition version on Amazon, but it's listed as 220 pages or something like that. I'm tired of novellas, give me real books dammit.

You can't churn those out as fast as "Digital Exclusives!" and novellas masquerading as "Novels."

GannerOne
Feb 25, 2014
Space Hulk actually looked pretty cool. Wonder if it will be multiplayer surival'ish

nuiker
Apr 9, 2007

GannerOne posted:

Space Hulk actually looked pretty cool. Wonder if it will be multiplayer surival'ish

You can play co-op with 3 other people, so kind of like left for dead. Would be kind of cool for future dlc to let someone be the adversary, kind of like a dungeon master setting up traps and the like.

Kurzon
May 10, 2013

by Hand Knit
I read an interview with Rick Priestley, the creator of Warhammer 40K, and he complains that over time the setting became less and less flexible. In his words, he initially wanted to create a setting where players could do anything they wished, whether wargaming or roleplaying. This is reflected in the variety of spin-off games he created like Necromunda and GorkaMorka. But he says that over time the principal races overwhelmed the setting and their histories became too interwoven for new races to fit, and some original races such as the Squats were eliminated. Every time GW tries to expand the universe, all they do is create sub-factions of the existing races rather than new races.

What do you think? Can any veteran players/readers comment on the setting?

Kurzon fucked around with this message at 20:37 on May 1, 2016

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





That's pretty much true, but it wasn't as if that was an accident. GW chose in the mid 2000s to kill off all the specialist games and to focus only on base 40k and WFB. The only exception, Space Hulk, uses miniatures that can be used without modification in 40k.

Kurzon
May 10, 2013

by Hand Knit
From what I've learned, Games Workshop overproduced translated editions of their games for foreign markets and it nearly bankrupted them, and since then they've been playing it safe, milking as much as they can out of tried-and-tested product lines. This is the big reason Priestley left GW. They weren't interested in innovation anymore, only how many miniatures they could sell.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Kurzon posted:

I read an interview with Rick Priestley, the creator of Warhammer 40K, and he complains that over time the setting became less and less flexible. In his words, he initially wanted to create a setting where players could do anything they wished, whether wargaming or roleplaying. This is reflected in the variety of spin-off games he created like Necromunda and GorkaMorka. But he says that over time the principal races overwhelmed the setting and their histories became too interwoven for new races to fit, and some original races such as the Squats were eliminated. Every time GW tries to expand the universe, all they do is create sub-factions of the existing races rather than new races.

What do you think? Can any veteran players/readers comment on the setting?
Any company will only be able to maintain so many races before the whole thing gets too top heavy and collapses on itself. Most games have 5-6 factions and GW has like 13 for 40K alone, not counting the sub-factions. They have to stop somewhere. Squats were dropped because GW wasn't able to give them a serious tone - they started out as hard drinking biker dwarfs and couldn't get out of that niche of being silly. Epic was the closest they got, but the 40K background was too entrenched, so they had their homeworld wiped out by the Nids. They had planned on returning them as the Demiurg, but by that time, GW had moved on to a different mindset.

As for 40K being "do what you want," that really hasn't been the case since 2nd ed. Contrary to Rick's beliefs, there has to be some structure in a game, as well as some self-restraint, or else you get rambling 100+ page rulebooks like Beyond the Gates of Antares or Warmaster (and I actually enjoy the Warmaster game.)

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Kurzon posted:

They weren't interested in innovation anymore, only how many miniatures space marines they could sell.

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jadebullet
Mar 25, 2011


MY LIFE FOR YOU!
For the record though, they do seem to be slowly turning around in their mindset.

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