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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Rinkles posted:

This isn't constructed viable, is it?



Were big dumb walls (that don't cantrip) ever seriously playable?

Generally you want a card to do something other than just block. I think the wall out of the recent block that could come close is that 3 drop that spawns a creature land.

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mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Rinkles posted:

This isn't constructed viable, is it?



Were big dumb walls (that don't cantrip) ever seriously playable?

i think Rampart did actually see niche sideboard play back when khans was in standard

like super niche

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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mandatory lesbian posted:

i think Rampart did actually see niche sideboard play back when khans was in standard

like super niche

I can't ever think of a situation where would've played this over Arashin Cleric in KTK BFZ standard.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

Rinkles posted:

This isn't constructed viable, is it?



Were big dumb walls (that don't cantrip) ever seriously playable?

Wall of Denial, Plumeveil, and Wall of Reverence come to mind, although the last one in that list gains enough life to be considered to be worth cards.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

You'll all feel silly for knocking walls when Goldnight Asstigator sweeps the PT

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Irony Be My Shield posted:

You'll all feel silly for knocking walls when Goldnight Asstigator sweeps the PT

Ah, that Assault Formation tech, I see

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

mcmagic posted:

I can't ever think of a situation where would've played this over Arashin Cleric in KTK BFZ standard.

i just realized i was probably thinking of a sealed (or draft) pro tour lol

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Zoness posted:

Wall of Denial, Plumeveil, and Wall of Reverence come to mind, although the last one in that list gains enough life to be considered to be worth cards.

and I suspect that wall would see play in sideboards right now if it was like Wall of Denial and had flying/reach, hexproof and 7+ toughness so that it could actually block Avacyn et.al without getting shoved out of the way by reflector mage or displacer or popped by a two mana removal spell

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005

Zoness posted:

Wall of Denial, Plumeveil, and Wall of Reverence come to mind, although the last one in that list gains enough life to be considered to be worth cards.

wall of omens was the stone tits

Salvor_Hardin
Sep 13, 2005

I want to go protest.
Nap Ghost
It took this long for someone to mention Wall of Blossoms?

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

Sigma-X posted:

wall of omens was the stone tits

Salvor_Hardin posted:

It took this long for someone to mention Wall of Blossoms?


those are givens but he did ask for walls that didn't cantrip

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Was there a Wall of Blood combo that was any good?

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


I believe wall of air was also played a bit, but that was years ago.

MiddleEastBeast
Jan 19, 2003

Forum Bully
Yoked Ox was in sideboards once upon a time

Thisuck
Apr 29, 2012

Spoilers
Pillbug
Nyx fleece ram was awesome, but not a defender though.

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

Glacial Wall saw some play because it could block Blastoderm

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005

Zoness posted:

those are givens but he did ask for walls that didn't cantrip

I no read good

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

Glacial Wall saw some play because it could block Blastoderm

Who was doing this that wasn't running Nether Spirit instead?

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

I saw a lot of wall of frost when people were trying way too hard to make Phenax work in my local FNM and league.

Bread Set Jettison
Jan 8, 2009

Rinkles posted:

This isn't constructed viable, is it?



Were big dumb walls (that don't cantrip) ever seriously playable?

Vent Sentinel I guess

Zoness posted:

Wall of Denial, Plumeveil, and Wall of Reverence come to mind, although the last one in that list gains enough life to be considered to be worth cards.

Oh yeah those, and wall of omen

born on a buy you
Aug 14, 2005

Odd Fullback
Bird Gang
Sack Them All

Sigma-X posted:

I no read good


Who was doing this that wasn't running Nether Spirit instead?

GoMar

Rimusutera
Oct 17, 2014

Voyager I posted:

Weapons Trainer seems like a fine card. It's a 3/2 for 2 with a lord effect and two relevant creature types.

It's the full playset of mediocre five drops in an aggro deck that makes my eyebrows wiggle.

I'm actually thinking of running a list like this but with maybe more Masterworks and the Surge Goblin with Menace (he seems easy to turn on.) Bushwacker probably would be a decent add as well as others have mentioned.

MiddleEastBeast
Jan 19, 2003

Forum Bully

Bread Set Jettison posted:

Vent Sentinel I guess

Where was this played outside of ROE draft decks?

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
That really cool 0/13 that swapped toughness with life total saw play as well.

Rimusutera
Oct 17, 2014

MiddleEastBeast posted:

Where was this played outside of ROE draft decks?

Conspiracy draft decks.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Hey guys this is LP, right?! It's only a slight bend that can easily be felt through double sleeves; that's totally LP and tournament legal!

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

suicidesteve posted:

Hey guys is LP, right?! It's only a slight bend that can easily be felt through double sleeves; that's totally LP and tournament legal!

Might want to host that elsewhere, it has your name on it.

Sickening fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Apr 15, 2016

Bread Set Jettison
Jan 8, 2009

MiddleEastBeast posted:

Where was this played outside of ROE draft decks?

My sweat kitchen table deck :radcat:

I was also mostly joking.

Rimusutera
Oct 17, 2014

Sickening posted:

Might want to host that elsewhere, it has your name on it.

He just dropdox'd himself.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Sickening posted:

Might want to host that elsewhere, it has your name on it.

I had to log out to see what you meant. I'm not too worried about it. Between buying/selling cards and my non-stop bragging about Champs (I got 12th at Champs guys :v:) I'm pretty sure half the forum could find my name if they really wanted to anyway.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Is it Steve?

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Steve and I are FB buddies :ssh: Scandalous, I know.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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A guy I know locally just lost on camera after making a prince and attacking with it a bunch of times. Rough beats.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

mcmagic posted:

A guy I know locally just lost on camera after making a prince and attacking with it a bunch of times. Rough beats.

Did he lose to another prince or just got controlled off the board?

gently caress, didn't know the invitational started today.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

mcmagic posted:

A guy I know locally just lost on camera after making a prince and attacking with it a bunch of times. Rough beats.

I have no sympathy for anyone playing the primary aggro deck of a format. None.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

Sickening posted:

Did he lose to another prince or just got controlled off the board?

gently caress, didn't know the invitational started today.

He lost to 5 giant Thopters an ormendahl and an atarka

Cactrot
Jan 11, 2001

Go Go Cactus Galactus





GeneX posted:

I have no sympathy for anyone playing the primary aggro deck of a format. None.

Professional fun-hater over here.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

GeneX posted:

I have no sympathy for anyone playing the primary aggro deck of a format. None.

Why would anybody hate on mono white aggro? It is about as fair as a deck will ever get. You are dumb.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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GeneX posted:

I have no sympathy for anyone playing the primary aggro deck of a format. None.

I can't disagree with this.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
I really dislike b/w trying to go midrange with knights and poo poo. A 2/2 first striker isn't a great blocker against the aggro/midrange decks in this format and I would prefer to build for double black over double white land wise. Sure, ramping land is sweet, but I don't know if that is where the deck wants to be.

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Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

Sickening posted:

I really dislike b/w trying to go midrange with knights and poo poo. A 2/2 first striker isn't a great blocker against the aggro/midrange decks in this format and I would prefer to build for double black over double white land wise. Sure, ramping land is sweet, but I don't know if that is where the deck wants to be.

I agree. Kalitas and Mindwrack make me happier then trying to go WW

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