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Yeah, MML, you need to get on a burke. All the CGs will be decommed before too long but Burkes will keep on burking for decades to come. Besides, in that situation there wouldn't be any missiles but rather: DownByTheWooter posted:BBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR After seeing a CIWS saw a training drone its all I've ever hoped to see again.
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ManMythLegend posted:Seriously though, the idea of getting on a NIFCCA boat and putting an SM-6 up the trail pipe of a MiG is giving me a raging SWOner right now. Make sure you buy a few camera drones beforehand. I want aerial footage looking something like the battle scenes from Battleship where they are literally shooting every CIWS, crew serve, and way too many missiles than actually possible at the same time. Red White and Blue fireworks would top it off. So turned on right now.
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A BURKE? To hell with that, I earned my pin on a cruiser so if I'm going to get sunk by an SS-N-26 I might as well close the loop. Besides: more VLS tubes=better than Fake edit: I would also take a ZUMWALT job too.
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Apr 15, 2016 13:42
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Dude burkes own.
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ManMythLegend posted:A BURKE? To hell with that, I earned my pin on a cruiser so if I'm going to get sunk by an SS-N-26 I might as well close the loop. At this stage in your career, going to a CG will more likely just result in your face in the Navy Times.
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By the time he's an O6 up for command the only CGs left in the fleet will be on their way out the door. It's a dying platform and has been on life support for years. In the next 10-15 years I see pretty much all of the cruisers winding down and a number of early DDGs as well. By that point there will be enough DDGs to fill our AEGIS needs. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Apr 15, 2016 15:14
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The proposed Flight III with the new AMDR radar does look pretty sweet.
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Apr 15, 2016 15:24
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I really do miss some things about being a SWO. 
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Apr 15, 2016 15:26
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Mr. Nice! posted:By the time he's an O6 up for command the only CGs left in the fleet will be on their way out the door. It's a dying platform and has been on life support for years. While I don't deny that, it sure is funny how many hundreds of millions the navy is dumping into modernizing platforms that were modernized a handful of years ago, only to decom them within a decade. Also cruisers are great, ticonderogas forever. ... One time I walked onto a newish DDG and was really upset at how great it looked in comparison. Think bengy was with me for that.
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Apr 15, 2016 16:20
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They're spending the money upgrading them because they need the newer assets now and we simply don't have enough AEGIS platforms to handle everything yet without them. In 10 years, though, there will be at least 13 new DDGs while the 34+ year old cruisers will still have superstructures ripping themselves apart among all the other issues prevalent in 40 year old warships.
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Apr 15, 2016 16:32
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Mr. Nice! posted:They're spending the money upgrading them because they need the newer assets now and we simply don't have enough AEGIS platforms to handle everything yet without them. In 10 years, though, there will be at least 13 new DDGs while the 34+ year old cruisers will still have superstructures ripping themselves apart among all the other issues prevalent in 40 year old warships. That entirely depends on your definition of need I suppose. Based on my knowledge of the newer Aegis baselines I can't imagine the need to replace BL8 being that enormous.
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PneumonicBook posted:That entirely depends on your definition of need I suppose. Based on my knowledge of the newer Aegis baselines I can't imagine the need to replace BL8 being that enormous. I can't speak to the specifics since I've been out for years, don't remember poo poo, and any of it is classified anyways, but the need is the shift of almost all BMD from the other branches onto the navy in the past couple decades. It's why they didn't shitcan the Port Royal and other CGs on the chopping block a few years back. Because of that demand, the cruisers will be around for a few more years and they need to be upgraded and kept in spec with the rest of the fleet until they are ready to finally get chopped.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Yeah, MML, you need to get on a burke. All the CGs will be decommed before too long but Burkes will keep on burking for decades to come. LOL yeah right, as if it will work. Every CIWS training/usage had it locking up and failing to fire.
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SPACE HOMOS posted:LOL yeah right, as if it will work. Every CIWS training/usage had it locking up and failing to fire. That's why ships are equipped with two 
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Where on a flight ii is the second ciws mount?
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Mr. Nice! posted:I can't speak to the specifics since I've been out for years, don't remember poo poo, and any of it is classified anyways, but the need is the shift of almost all BMD from the other branches onto the navy in the past couple decades. It's why they didn't shitcan the Port Royal and other CGs on the chopping block a few years back. Because of that demand, the cruisers will be around for a few more years and they need to be upgraded and kept in spec with the rest of the fleet until they are ready to finally get chopped. That would make sense, except they didn't upgrade those CGs to be BMD capable as far as I know, which I suppose they could be regretting now, hence the upgrading the upgrade. I just read about the navy's plan for this, and they intend to keep the Port Royal in service until 2045. She'll be 50 years old. When I was on the Mobile Bay she was pushing 30 and was in various states of falling apart. I would love to see the face of someone getting to the fleet and being on a 40 year old non nuclear platform.
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I'm amazed they didn't shitcan the Port Royal since as far as I know it still has a permanent list from it's time spent as a decoration at the end of the airport runway on top of the rest of the cruiser problems.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm amazed they didn't shitcan the Port Royal since as far as I know it still has a permanent list from it's time spent as a decoration at the end of the airport runway on top of the rest of the cruiser problems. It has a very slight walk to starboard because the keel is... well it floats anyway. Also mount 52 is a little tilted towards to the deck. At one point on our first deployment after we hung 10, a horizontal stringer broke away in MER 2 for the entire length of the space - the skin of the ship was just pushing in and out as we moved through the water. Love that ship.
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SPACE HOMOS posted:Where on a flight ii is the second ciws mount? yeah I know the joke is forever ruined
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PneumonicBook posted:Also cruisers are great, ticonderogas forever. They're not really cruisers in the classical sense, mission-creep just made the Navy change the name. Ticos are a stretched Spruance design anyway. Designed and built as destroyers, capable of more missions than destroyers at the time = modern cruiser. They do look great, though. Godholio fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Apr 15, 2016 17:53
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Mr. Nice! posted:By the time he's an O6 up for command the only CGs left in the fleet will be on their way out the door. It's a dying platform and has been on life support for years. I think they experimented with making Cowpens an O-4 command. Lots of opportunities there if you connect with the right people
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Red Crown posted:I think they experimented with making Cowpens an O-4 command. Lots of opportunities there if you connect with the right people 
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SPACE HOMOS posted:Where on a flight ii is the second ciws mount? One is in front of the pilot house, the second is behind the stacks.
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Stultus Maximus posted:One is in front of the pilot house, the second is behind the stacks. iirc flight IIas do not have a second CIWS.
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Mr. Nice! posted:iirc flight IIas do not have a second CIWS. That's right, they thought essm could cover the gap. Regarding Port Royal talk, we were supposed to get new shafts because of how drat old ours were. Port Royal got them instead after running aground. Then we were building 53 for almost a year because our MRG disentegrated.
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Mr. Nice! posted:iirc flight IIas do not have a second CIWS. A few do, but I was being  and/or  regarding him saying Flight II instead of Flight IIA.
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PneumonicBook posted:
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ded posted:Wait. WHAT They found metal flakes in some oil samples, basically causing them to replace it.
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Red Crown posted:I think they experimented with making Cowpens an O-4 command. Lots of opportunities there if you connect with the right people 
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O-4? That seems excessively junior.
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Godholio posted:O-4? That seems excessively junior. Not for the Cowpens. 
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ded posted:Wait. WHAT What bengy said. If I remember right they repaired it initially and then it happened again. I'd say we were lucky for avoiding underways but I was tad for eight months for some of it and we fast cruised multiple times to support FST and poo poo. It turns out its actually awful if you can't get underway. But I mean this was a 30 year old ship. We had water mains bursting just from age above dpds, and when she went into the yards originally the superstructure had a crack the entire width of the ship in it. Cruisers, while being heavily armed are also built in a really awful way. Just compare the profile of a CG vice a DDG or an LCS. This is without getting into the radar cross section issues. PneumonicBook fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Happy monday you miserable fuckers (T-12 months) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beP82Vd9N_I
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I'm going on a tiger cruise in a few days, not going to do poo poo 
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I never got the point of those. Like by all means do a tour of a ship and all that jazz But to spend a bunch of money on a one-way ticket, miss a week of your life/time off work, only to sit around and be miserable like the rest of us and eat the same food Why? (I'm mostly pissed because I had to find somewhere to store all the poo poo I had in the extra rack we had to clear)
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:I never got the point of those. Like by all means do a tour of a ship and all that jazz Lol if you think civilians want to be at work Tiger cruises are great. I'm expected to do absolutely nothing but yet still go underway. A few days of hanging out with my dad and brother owns too.
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Fart Cannon posted:Lol if you think civilians want to be at work So you get to act like Marines on a ship and stand in line for chow and hang out in the gym all day?
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:So you get to act like Marines on a ship and stand in line for chow and hang out in the gym all day? Sounds like Security Department.
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Tiger cruise was pretty sweet. Since I didn't bring any guests along, I just stood my watch, ate, went to the gym, and watched movies in my room since there were no exercises to plan or grade, etc. Just stand a watch and lay low.
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We did a friends and family day cruise and I thought that was plenty sufficient. The only thing people missed was trying to sleep while people dragged chains around and launched planes overhead.
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