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Spooky Bear Ghost
Sep 17, 2010

lets get spooky

Tamayachi posted:

Watching the cinematic again, he just has a dark patch of shadow where his face should be in the chainmail helmet he's wearing. So it could be shadow face, could be anus face.

During his fight hes eyes + mouth are red and glowy :ssh:

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goldjas
Feb 22, 2009

I HATE ALL FORMS OF FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. I HATE BEAUTY. I AM GOLDJAS.
So what pyromancies are the good ones anyways? I only have the ones Corynifex or whatever sells with the first 2 or 3 tomes, and of those the best one seems to be Fire Orb, which is basically just about the same as Great Soul Spear, and none of the rest seemed that great. Are there just really good ones i need to find or something?

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Seriously what the gently caress, this guy casts a shockwave that can knock me off of the boss arena from halfway across the room? This is the only boss so far that I haven't had fun with. Just seems like a huge HP sponge with a ton of annoying gimmicks.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
finally got a darkmoon hit and i destroyed a guy with a fugs.....didnt get hit once and felt great

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
:qq: gently caress YOU RAT WOLVES! :qq:



They are even ruining my invasions now.

Tamayachi
Sep 25, 2007

Did you think about it?


Yes. Yes you did.

Spooky Bear Ghost posted:

During his fight hes eyes + mouth are red and glowy :ssh:

All I remember from the fight is screaming angrily at him when his attacks just barely hit me, interrupting my sword powering up move. I'll have to look more closely during NG+

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...
What the gently caress. Just finished my first playthrough, now I look at the wiki... ending spoilers

I happened to do everything right for the secret 'hollow lord' ending, but I chose the wrong thing after beating the final boss? I was supposed to choose the option indicated by "Link the First Flame" when I was specifically told NOT to do that by the lady who told me to marry Anri? :argh:

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008
I'm trying to help my buddy kill the Vordt. We're playing on Steam. He's level 13 and I'm level ~30, but if we set a password that shouldn't matter, correct? He can't see my sign anywhere that I drop it. Is there something we're missing or is it just lovely/buggy servers?

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Ahhhhh! Killed Lorian! killed Lorian twice! Now just have this crippled old invalid....oh...he revived Lorian...they killed me

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


Does Prince Lorian's hitbox feel fucky to anyone else? This is the first time a fight has felt like DS2, where I have to mentally divorce my dodge timing from what my eyes are seeing.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I don't think I understand how to deal with the knights in the rafters in the Cathedral of the Deep. I can't seem to parry them and there's no real way to dodge their attacks without falling to my death or eating a shield bash and I am very, very angry about it.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Harrow posted:

I don't think I understand how to deal with the knights in the rafters in the Cathedral of the Deep. I can't seem to parry them and there's no real way to dodge their attacks without falling to my death or eating a shield bash and I am very, very angry about it.

Those guys killed me like 10 times because I was playing bad and not using my head. I think the best bet is to lure them outside, where you at least have a little more room to work with.

Spooky Bear Ghost
Sep 17, 2010

lets get spooky

Harrow posted:

I don't think I understand how to deal with the knights in the rafters in the Cathedral of the Deep. I can't seem to parry them and there's no real way to dodge their attacks without falling to my death or eating a shield bash and I am very, very angry about it.

Use arrow on man. They try to truck it directly at you, most often falling to their death

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

Harrow posted:

I don't think I understand how to deal with the knights in the rafters in the Cathedral of the Deep. I can't seem to parry them and there's no real way to dodge their attacks without falling to my death or eating a shield bash and I am very, very angry about it.

I used bow and arrow to take out the crossbow knight and the sword knight. Doesn't take too many arrows and the sword knight, if you aim for the head should get thrown off the rafters to his doom if you hit him from the side.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Harrow posted:

I don't think I understand how to deal with the knights in the rafters in the Cathedral of the Deep. I can't seem to parry them and there's no real way to dodge their attacks without falling to my death or eating a shield bash and I am very, very angry about it.

kick them and then attack their shield and you'll guard break them, the kick alone is just short of being enough

alternately get good at parrying the swing after the shield bash

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008
Question on respeccing: Does it also reset the choice in class, or just goes back to the starting value of that class?

Glukeose
Jun 6, 2014

Wildtortilla posted:

I'm trying to help my buddy kill the Vordt. We're playing on Steam. He's level 13 and I'm level ~30, but if we set a password that shouldn't matter, correct? He can't see my sign anywhere that I drop it. Is there something we're missing or is it just lovely/buggy servers?

He's embered, right? Sounds stupid but my buddy and I completely forgot that part.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Spooky Bear Ghost posted:

Use arrow on man. They try to truck it directly at you, most often falling to their death

Even the crossbow one? He's the one who killed me. I got close enough that he pulled out his mace and he followed me outside and I didn't have enough room to dodge him and also get around his shield to hit him. The greatsword one fell to his death no problem.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

Harrow posted:

Even the crossbow one? He's the one who killed me. I got close enough that he pulled out his mace and he followed me outside and I didn't have enough room to dodge him and also get around his shield to hit him. The greatsword one fell to his death no problem.

In my experience, he aims too low that it hits the bend of the rafter. I edged up close enough to hit his head repeatedly with impunity.

LaserShark
Oct 17, 2007

It's over, idiot. You're gonna die here and now, and the last words out of your mouth will have been 'poop train.'
I probably just need to Git Gud, but is there seriously only one way out of Undead Settlement? I had much less trouble with Tree Nuts than the guy down there.

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008

Glukeose posted:

He's embered, right? Sounds stupid but my buddy and I completely forgot that part.

Yep he's embered.

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

So I just found Smouldering Lake.

Is there a way to deal with the crossbow towers or do I just run screaming past the giant worm and hope for the best?

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

LaserShark posted:

I probably just need to Git Gud, but is there seriously only one way out of Undead Settlement? I had much less trouble with Tree Nuts than the guy down there.

Just lure him out and run by, the door's not locked.

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


So I just beat the Lord of Cinder, and I see a bonfire that says "Link the first flame". Can I hit this, see the ending, then continue playing, or will touching it immediately boot me into NG+?

LaserShark
Oct 17, 2007

It's over, idiot. You're gonna die here and now, and the last words out of your mouth will have been 'poop train.'

Mazerunner posted:

Just lure him out and run by, the door's not locked.

That still seems astoundingly dangerous given his speed, reach and damage, but I'll give it a shot.

Glukeose
Jun 6, 2014

Wildtortilla posted:

Yep he's embered.

Then yeah provided he hasn't beat the boss he should be able to summon you with a password. Due to the level differential it might just take a while, which kind of sucks.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Omi no Kami posted:

So I just beat the Lord of Cinder, and I see a bonfire that says "Link the first flame". Can I hit this, see the ending, then continue playing, or will touching it immediately boot me into NG+?

you can choose to stay in ng after the credits

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


Awesome, thanks :)

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Oh my god that stretch to the last bonfire shortcut in the Cathedral is loving garbage. And that path to Rosaria is even more loving garbage, thank god for lovely AI plunging off the rafters to their death.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


New players owe it to themselves to grab the Dark Axe off the early chest.

Holy poo poo is that thing strong, I've been rolling with the Uchigatana and feeling pretty twinked but I just rolled an alt, got that axe and proceeded to just destroy the big fat first real boss. I felt bad for him it was really unfair, a full two handed combo does like a third of his health.

If that was me I'd have quit the game.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Huh, I didn't put two and two together about the Drang items scattered around until just now, when I had a brain fart: Drang is short for Drangleic.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

I think I've been softbanned and I have no idea why. I see phantoms and messages but no summon signs and I don't get summoned anywhere. I even made a new character and couldn't get a summon at the very first bonfire after Firelink or at Boreal Vordt.

I was softbanned in both DS1 and DS2 for editing save files but it ruined both games for me and I learned my lesson so I've played completely legit. I'm going to be really bummed out if it happened again, especially before I had an opportunity to play much at all.

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Apr 16, 2016

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I just spent...what, forty minutes? Something close to an hour fighting a stupid loving dog and now I can happily report that that loving dog is loving dead.

I'm just going to go around the world and kill everything I haven't killed yet until I find progress.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Shakill OReal posted:

I think I've been softbanned and I have no idea why. I see phantoms and messages but no summon signs and I don't get summoned anywhere. I even made a new character and couldn't get a summon at the very first bonfire after Firelink.

I was softbanned in both DS1 and DS2 for editing save files but it ruined both games for me and I learned my lesson so I've played completely legit. I'm going to be really bummed out if it happened again, especially before I had an opportunity to play much at all.

Are you in online mode in the options/start menu? You can still see messages etc in offline mode in the game.

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009



Shakill OReal posted:

I think I've been softbanned and I have no idea why. I see phantoms and messages but no summon signs and I don't get summoned anywhere. I even made a new character and couldn't get a summon at the very first bonfire after Firelink.

I was softbanned in both DS1 and DS2 for editing save files but it ruined both games for me and I learned my lesson so I've played completely legit. I'm going to be really bummed out if it happened again, especially before I had an opportunity to play much at all.

Did you alt-f4 out of an invasion like a coward?

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

CJacobs posted:

Are you in online mode in the options/start menu?

Yes, and I have cross-region matchmaking on and summon signs unrestricted.

Alabaster White posted:

Did you alt-f4 out of an invasion like a coward?

I've alt-F4'd when I'm not being invaded, this started after I left the game idle in Firelink all day, it was working last night. I've restarted, of course.

e: I can't use the Way of White Circlet

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Funky Valentine posted:

Oh my god that stretch to the last bonfire shortcut in the Cathedral is loving garbage. And that path to Rosaria is even more loving garbage, thank god for lovely AI plunging off the rafters to their death.

I had a white buddy escort me all the way from the first ladder (which I unlocked myself before dying) to the boss room. :3:

Then she got ganked by the fourth goddamn red phantom that session while I was summoning a second phantom to help with the boss, whereupon I got lucky and tagged the NPC phantom summon sign and booked it for the boss fog.

RIP white buddy, you were the best. At least you got like twenty thousand souls.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

goldjas posted:

So what pyromancies are the good ones anyways? I only have the ones Corynifex or whatever sells with the first 2 or 3 tomes, and of those the best one seems to be Fire Orb, which is basically just about the same as Great Soul Spear, and none of the rest seemed that great. Are there just really good ones i need to find or something?

Fire orb to chaos fire orb, I took the rock spitting one because it made abyss watchers funny to co op.

Darke GBF
Dec 30, 2006

The cold never bothered me anyway~
I like this game for the most part, but it cant be said enough how absolutely poo poo faith builds are. I'm over halfway through with only one lord throne without its offering, and even the offensive miracle from one of the lords of cinder does jack poo poo for damage with entirely too long a windup. And it's melee. What the hell were they thinking? My blessed +8 longsword with occasional rebuffing Deep Protection isn't completely ineffective, but I know I'd be doing at least 25% more damage if I had just gone standard str or dex and used the uchi or any number of other weapons. Faith scaling weapons don't seem to exist outside of infusions, either. The one native B Faith scaling weapon I've found requires 18 int and is designed to cast sorceries. I've encountered multiple weapons that literally have "holy" in the name and have no faith scaling, but a faith requirement. loving From.

I just wanted to shoot cool sunlight spears at stuff, but it seems like that's not what they wanted to have happen.

Unrelated, but man I miss the weapons from Bloodborne. Can all Souls games from here on out just use trick weapons? Shortswords and clubs are boring. Pizza cutters and falconpunch drivers for all.

Darke GBF fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Apr 16, 2016

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I like the PvP stuff in this game but I am an incredibly dishonourable opponent cause I guess I've never felt like anyone in a From world would have time for that by the second zone or so.

The first guy that invaded me got savaged mid-bow and then I usually just run around summoning bros or leg it to the nearest fog gate.

So far when I've invaded its all been 3v1 outside of fog gates so thats just gunning for the host and hoping to get a combo off on him to rob him of an estus out of vindictive spite before he makes it in. I don't find dodging multiple players particularly hard but its a complete bastard to nail someone down who doesn't want to be hit, those two things are probably related.

Being a cop is drat fun though, it turns the invasion on its head and now its the enemy phantom retreating from you and the host.

This game is loving amazing.

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