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When Pucci's not on page, people should be asking "Where's Pucci?"
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Apr 17, 2016 07:03
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the gravity theme is cool, but pucci basically has no characterization whatsoever other than 'he's evil but doesn't think he's evil' which would normally be a fun trait when given to someone with actual personality, but pucci has nothing of the sort. vento aureo's ending is kinda bleh in general but at least diavolo is more interesting as an actual character.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:04
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BaDandy posted:??? It's not like that's completely out of left field, considering his name, his god-complex, his image, the fact that he models himself after Egyptian Pharaohs in SDC (so, god-kings), Giorno having some pretty Jesus-y imagery to him on occasion, and it's not like the whole thing with Pucci changes that he's still a terrible person who used his charm and vampiric powers to manipulate a naive and sheltered teenager who was studying to become a priest, nor does his plan for "Heaven" change that it was ultimately to control fate to his liking, which is totally and completely in character for him. It's not about being in character or out of character it's about deification of a character I liked because he was a standard rear end in a top hat villain you see in shonen whose qualities are exacerbated by his ability to be unbelievably cruel and childish. Once you start being like "Oh I actually know this method of transforming your stand so you can gently caress with the fabric of reality as we know it to the point where you reset reality" it becomes dumb because this is a character whose goals were just world domination for the most part. I don't care about him being in character, I care about changing the scale of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure to just become stupidly huge at that point since no other part goes to that level and it comes from a character whose big thing was that he can stop time for 5 seconds and was a Dracula.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:06
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I like Pucci. I mean it's cool if you like him, but I just could never get into him. Every time he has a moment where I kinda like him and he's counting prime numbers to chill himself out and whining about how expensive his clothes are he's just boring in every other scene. different strokes differents folks yadda yadda, jotaro's still the best
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Apr 17, 2016 07:07
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at what point do you think araki was just like lets wrap this poo poo up forever when making part 6
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Apr 17, 2016 07:08
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It's like if you changed history books so every significant event featured Forest Gump, but he was also a time-stopping vampire with omni present knowledge.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:09
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Johnny Joestar posted:the gravity theme is cool, but pucci basically has no characterization whatsoever other than 'he's evil but doesn't think he's evil' which would normally be a fun trait when given to someone with actual personality, but pucci has nothing of the sort. vento aureo's ending is kinda bleh in general but at least diavolo is more interesting as an actual character. Hey he also recites prime numbers and thinks frogs are gross.  Anyway, I just really like the idea that his whole fixation from Heaven comes from him getting his sister killed and as he's kinda freaking out about that he remember this one time a Vampire told him about gravity. So like if his sister just knew she was going to get murdered by the KKK and accepted it her death wouldn't be a tragedy and he wouldn't have to feel bad about it. It's like the most absurdly selfish motivation ever and he thinks it makes him a hero. I dunno, I just like it when villains are motivated by something so obviously petty and selfish but they still don't understand they're evil.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:11
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I wrote these words on my Stand somehow, because apparently it works that way.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:12
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Alternatively, I am also going to say that Araki trying to make Jotaro Dio's eternal rival in Eyes of Heaven is also loving stupid, because they never knew each other outside of the one fight.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:13
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Baal posted:I mean it's cool if you like him, but I just could never get into him. Every time he has a moment where I kinda like him and he's counting prime numbers to chill himself out and whining about how expensive his clothes are he's just boring in every other scene. different strokes differents folks yadda yadda, jotaro's still the best Jotaro is indeed incredibly cool.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:13
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Baal posted:Alternatively, I am also going to say that Araki trying to make Jotaro Dio's eternal rival in Eyes of Heaven is also loving stupid, because they never knew each other outside of the one fight. 
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Apr 17, 2016 07:14
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Talking poo poo about Big Pooch and Stone Ocean's ending? Thread has gone anime thread level over night. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 07:14
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Baal posted:Alternatively, I am also going to say that Araki trying to make Jotaro Dio's eternal rival in Eyes of Heaven is also loving stupid, because they never knew each other outside of the one fight. honestly polnareff had more of a connection with DIO. He probably should have been the one to defeat him as well just to make that staircase scene worth something more than memes
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Apr 17, 2016 07:16
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i mean, all people ever remember about pucci is the prime numbers thing and him complaining about his expensive clothing being ruined. then at the end he's not even much of a character of his own other than basically going all I AM THE loving STRONG and talking about how this will make everything better before he gets chumped out by a kid with a dvd sticking out of his head.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:16
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Talking poo poo about Big Pooch and Stone Ocean's ending? i actually do like the universe reset, but the leadup to it was kinda sketchy
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Apr 17, 2016 07:17
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Stairmaster posted:honestly polnareff had more of a connection with DIO. He probably should have been the one to defeat him as well just to make that staircase scene worth something more than memes Polnareff is really cool and all but he's basically got as much of a connection with him as Kakyoin. Namely he put a flesh bud on them once.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:18
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I wasn't even really talking about the ending
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Apr 17, 2016 07:18
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The whole "Dio knew how to create an unstoppable stand but didn't do it himself because ???" thing is pretty dumb, yeah. It could have been, like, Dio knowing a way to bring himself back or whatever through the Green Baby (which he already did) and then the weird combination of The World and White Snake when Pucci took the disc causing all the bullshit heaven stuff, with Pucci seeing Dio's immense power and trying to translate it through the lens of his faith instead of that stuff just being what Dio said in the first place. And I will forever complain about the death of the best jojo and the stealing of the spotlight by some little kid I didn't even care about.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:19
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Johnny Joestar posted:i actually do like the universe reset, but the leadup to it was kinda sketchy The protagonists being out protagonisted is super good. It's like a reverse DIO trying to escape sequence. Instead of Jotaro being in the hole and having every answer, it's him getting countered because shits going super downhill, super quickly.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:19
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I mean I don't like the ending either, but I have a lot of other problems with Part 6 than just that even though it has one of my favorite teams of all the parts.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:20
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Also Kakyoin doesn't die according to Eyes of Heaven timeline
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Apr 17, 2016 07:23
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Eyes of Heaven sounds really bad.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:24
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No one believes me when I say these CC2 games are garbage
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Apr 17, 2016 07:25
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i don't mind basically everyone dying, i just wish that the villain to accomplish it was a bit more compelling than 'a guy who idolized dio a little too much'.Baal posted:Also Kakyoin doesn't die according to Eyes of Heaven timeline when's the jouta dlc
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Apr 17, 2016 07:25
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All Star Battle was.... not eye-gougingly awful but it was close
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Apr 17, 2016 07:27
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Eyes of Heaven is better than All-Star Battle because All-Star Battle is an actual affront on things I like in every way
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Apr 17, 2016 07:28
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Polnareff is really cool and all but he's basically got as much of a connection with him as Kakyoin. Namely he put a flesh bud on them once. the staircase scene had more chemistry between them than the entirety of Jotaro's fight with him. The real problem is it basically has no pay-off because there's no actual conclusion. We literally get blueballed by the rest of the stardust crusaders and the whole scene is basically pointless.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:30
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I was about to reply seriously and then I realized what you were doing
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Apr 17, 2016 07:31
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Baal posted:Also Kakyoin doesn't die according to Eyes of Heaven timeline
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Apr 17, 2016 07:36
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Baal posted:Alternatively, I am also going to say that Araki trying to make Jotaro Dio's eternal rival in Eyes of Heaven is also loving stupid, because they never knew each other outside of the one fight.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:38
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Part 6 has to be the worst part for me simply because of the awful ending. I've posted about it before in this thread but holy poo poo it's a bunch of wild poo poo that does not feel natural and everyone dies and some kid saves the day. I'd seriously have a lot less issues if the deaths of the entire main cast held a little more weight and maybe if Joylene was the one who beat Pucci even if she still died in the end and the reset happened. I did, however, like Pucci as a villain and the lingering effects of DIO as a plot device. Pucci's backstory and origin with the KKK and Weather Report were really dumb, but how he interacted and worshipped DIO fit well in my mind. It's really the end game of DIO's influence on people. Also WRT the anime thread: 
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Apr 17, 2016 07:41
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It should have been both josephs and okayasu to kill eyes of heaven dio as they lost more to him than jotaro.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:45
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Stairmaster posted:It should have been both josephs and okayasu to kill eyes of heaven dio as they lost more to him than jotaro. A line needs to form so everyone can take turns.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:50
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Speedwagon should have done it.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:50
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Jonathan is Dio's eternal rival. Having it be anyone else is simply incorrect.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:50
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I feel it would have been the most Jojo if Gappy countered EoH DIO by taking away the concept of time
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Apr 17, 2016 07:51
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DIO did nothing wrong. He just wanted to hang out with his priest friends in Egypt and go to heaven.
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Apr 17, 2016 07:52
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Baby Jolyne being brought out for the teaser in EoH is loving bad too
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Apr 17, 2016 07:56
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what the hell was heaven supposed to be?
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Apr 17, 2016 07:56
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Cabinet posted:DIO did nothing wrong. He just wanted to hang out with his priest friends in Egypt and go to heaven. Sending fleshbud Kakyoin out to Japan to murder Jotaro was just a little oopsy-doodle on his part
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