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Higsian posted:There are many cures for wealth. It's certainly a persuasive argument for relaxing firearms legislation. Curiously, we don't hear that one.
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ewe2 posted:It's certainly a persuasive argument for relaxing firearms legislation. Curiously, we don't hear that one. As long as Holland and Holland guns are still legal, I'm ok with it.
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On ABC24 they just had a segment on the 200 year anniversary since the massacre ordered by General Macquarie where he ordered the men, women and children of a tribe be gunned down to send a message. I remember someone in here posting a bunch of the Generals documents revealing the way he thought, and wrote about how the native population had to be dealt with. The part that struck me the most was the "Shoot them even if they refuse any commands, and hang their bodies from the trees to send a message to the others that disobedience will not be tolerated". Just last week I mentioned this very command in a class debate at uni on indigenous affairs in psychology. As a former member of the defence force it carried a certain weight to it that I didn't think many would understand without a proper analysis of that command, and I ended up changing a few peoples minds who were not as understanding of the barbarity of colonisation. Anyway, thanks to whoever posted those documents, the way they are so closely worded to today's legislation around indigenous and asylum seeker policy was really surreal... Also gently caress yeah Dan Andrews! Legal funding has been assured for at least 10,000 asylum seekers awaiting refugee classification from our biased and disgustingly hideous system. Stay away from all comments sections regarding this story, just a heads up 
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Apr 17, 2016 01:54
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Yeah this person's letter to Andrews is how I feel too.  
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ABC24 just had some footage of the owner-operator's trucky rally thingo, didn't catch where it is. I saw Michaelia Cash up there with a really firey speech in solidarity with the drivers. The only problem is, she's backing them against every other driver in Australia. Who was standing behind her with a forced smile looking tired? Sophie Mirabella.
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This is insane. One of these places is just a couple of streets over from me: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/slave-houses-hiding-in-innercity-brisbane-20160408-go2990.html
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Les Affaires posted:ABC24 just had some footage of the owner-operator's trucky rally thingo, didn't catch where it is. I saw Michaelia Cash up there with a really firey speech in solidarity with the drivers. The only problem is, she's backing them against every other driver in Australia. Whole thing is bizarre. "We demand the right to be exploited!"
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open24hours posted:Whole thing is bizarre. "We demand the right to be exploited!" Nah it's perfectly understandable. "I am a good driver and I believe I can operate my 'small business' both safely and profitably, I know nothing about disproportionate market power and the concept of an externality."
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If your business is so hopeless that you can't afford to pay yourself minimum wage it might be time to find a new job.
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Time to take the red pill:quote:Owner Drivers Australia http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Owner_Drivers_Australia
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open24hours posted:If your business is so hopeless that you can't afford to pay yourself minimum wage it might be time to find a new job. More to the point, these so-called "small business owners" don't really have much to differentiate themselves on when compared to an employee driver. Prettier trucks? Advertising space on the side of the truck? Guaranteed 10% quicker time getting to the destination using trade-secret alternative transport routes?
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Les Affaires posted:More to the point, these so-called "small business owners" don't really have much to differentiate themselves on when compared to an employee driver. Prettier trucks? Advertising space on the side of the truck? Guaranteed 10% quicker time getting to the destination using trade-secret alternative transport routes? Except running themselves into there ground and breaking laws, obviously.
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The Lord Bude posted:This is insane. One of these places is just a couple of streets over from me: Isn't this like the 3rd Taiwanese slave house found on the southside this year? What the gently caress?
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Maybe Bronnie can get a shoe on sky news now. DAAS Kapitalist posted:How thick do you have to be to not have worked that out six weeks ago? open24hours posted:If your business is so hopeless that you can't afford to pay yourself minimum wage it might be time to find a new job. Redcordial posted:On ABC24 they just had a segment on the 200 year anniversary since the massacre ordered by General Macquarie where he ordered the men, women and children of a tribe be gunned down to send a message. -/- Why does Australia need a military? Costa Rica abolished theirs so they could spend the money on health and education. quote:Since then, Costa Rica has remained among the most stable, prosperous, and progressive nations in Latin America. Following a brief but bloody civil war, it permanently abolished its army in 1949, becoming the first of only a few sovereign nations without a standing army.[6][7][8] They were also one of the first countries to default on unfair sovereign debt. All this and more http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/costa-rica/7308100 Like Cuba a bunch of the far left Central American countries continue to abuse the dominant thinking on how to run a country. Costa Rica lets prisoners vote and, when you think about it, why should they be disenfranchised? That is clearly the top of a slippery slope. If your country has enough prisoners that their vote is going to swing things one way or the other then you both have bigger problems than prisoners voting and have made up your mind that prisoners are going to vote for bad policies. Prisoners themselves (And how they vote) aren't part of the problem in either case.
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iajanus posted:But how will we defend ourselves from the Weaponised 16 year olds with rudimentary camping and farm skills?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Weaponised 16 year olds with rudimentary camping and farm skills? If only we could get those to defend ourselves against tories.
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Anidav posted:I wonder if there's a crazy Asian Mafia underbelly in Sunnybank. Yeah they control the Market Square car parking spaces.
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Cartoon posted:If your job involves the possibility of compromising public safety then I agree 100%. This is one of the cases where you should be prevented from being a danger to the public. This is exactly the kind of area where the surrender of personal power to the collective for the good of society should be in effect. The problem is that, stated as you have, you have put the cart before the horse. Adhering to your requirement would remove all kinds of advocacy and personal interest groups because they don't meet a fairly arbitrary personal reward benchmark. I don't make minimum wage but I get by and what I do (I like to think) is effectively a community service in a depressed rural area where I also employ people for award wages. Fortunately my personal income skimping doesn't result in the compromise of anyone's safety and as a musician I'm used to getting paid poo poo money. (Despite being the union). Those truck drivers would probably make the same argument (providing a public service, not endangering anyone). If people really are working for themselves then whatever, I don't care how much they earn, but there are some industries, like trucking and construction, where 'independent contractor' is quite obviously just a way of shifting the risk onto the worker, who has very little if any actual independence. If you were being paid by some music chain to run one of their stores like a franchisee and were paying yourself below minimum wage I don't think I'd find that acceptable, even if there was no real danger to the public.
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iajanus posted:If only we could get those to defend ourselves against tories. Would've made for a better set of books too.
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iajanus posted:But how will we defend ourselves from the open24hours posted:Those truck drivers would probably make the same argument (providing a public service, not endangering anyone). http://www.news.com.au/finance/work...b25f27be7d196eb quote:That means, unsurprisingly, truck drivers topped the list. The transport and storage industry recorded 65 fatalities and 8,450 serious injuries in the year, making it the most dangerous overall.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Yeah they control the Market Square car parking spaces. Nobody controls that, that is a realm of pure chaos. WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Queensland is really living up to its reputation as Australia's South. They don't call it the deep north for nothing.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Would've made for a better set of books too. 8 year old me would have had no idea what a Tory was though.
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The Lord Bude posted:8 year old me would have had no idea what a Tory was though. Precisely the reason we needed them.
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The Lord Bude posted:8 year old me would have had no idea what a Tory was though. That's something we should change. The education system isn't doing its job.
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Cartoon posted:http://www.news.com.au/finance/work...b25f27be7d196eb People who work in mining and construction don't get danger money because of the free market, they get it because they have decent unions. In industries where you have lots of small businesses competing with each other and no union-like organisation to represent them properly they give away conditions to cut costs and make themselves more competitive.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Time to take the red pill: Son of a bitch. I figured SOMEONE had to be behind "people not wanting to be paid more", and there it is. A paid front company. This should be the front page news, not the pay dispute itself.
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Comstar posted:Son of a bitch. I figured SOMEONE had to be behind "people not wanting to be paid more", and there it is. A paid front company. This should be the front page news, not the pay dispute itself. You'd think so, but it's laughable to think News Ltd would run that angle
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Senator Xenophon, along with other crossbenchers, want a number of amendments to the ABCC Bill. The South Australian wants changes to procurement policies to include requirement for locally produced goods to be used in construction projects. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and his Employment Minister Michaelia Cash have both said they would not consider amendments that would change the nature of the legislation. That would mean Senator Glenn Lazarus' demands for a national anti-corruption body would not be considered. "I certainly won't vote for [the ABCC] in its current form," Senator Lazarus told ABC Insiders. "I've always been a campaigner for a national corruption and misconduct watchdog and I think it's a very relevant point. "I don't think we need to be attacking one particular sector, we need to be covering all misconduct and corruption."
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How the gently caress can they sell the DD as necessary to bypass senate obstructionism, when they're the ones essentially obstructing the loving thing by choosing not to amend the bill with something the public wants?  Is death perhaps not certain? Will Bill Shorten actually walk into the PMship? It's just all so dumb, why go for the early election to head off falling favourability when you're steering it straight into the rocks? WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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I think Bill will accidentally win. Not because people want him as Prime Minister but rather the ALP as a whole is more constructive in their public discussion.
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Anidav posted:I think Bill will accidentally win. Not because people want him as Prime Minister but rather the ALP as a whole is more constructive in their public discussion. There's plenty of time for them to capitulate again.
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Anidav posted:I think Bill will accidentally win. Not because people want him as Prime Minister but rather the ALP as a whole is more constructive in their public discussion. The concept of Bill Shorten winning will be so unfathomable to all major political parties and news outlets that both parties give concession speeches and for a few months we just assume Nick Xenophon is PM because we can't find anyone else that makes sense.
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Australian don't vote for governments they vote against them. This is by any metric that anyone can come up with, including their own, the worst government in post invasion history. (eg) Disfunction (Changed leaders apparently a complete deal breaker, no mandate = election NOW! etc) CHECK! Budget emergency/Spiralling Debt and Deficit - CHECK! < I think I'm targeting my opponents pretty precisely given the sponsors of the hate. Go me! PS gently caress Mike's Plumbing. If I wanted to stand in poo poo I have all the tools already to hand and didn't need his help.
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Cleretic posted:The concept of Bill Shorten winning will be so unfathomable to all major political parties and news outlets that both parties give concession speeches and for a few months we just assume Nick Xenophon is PM because we can't find anyone else that makes sense. After Mr Abbott's wild ride starting in 2009, anything's possible.
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7 news is doing a beatup on young tenants TRASHING RENTAL HOMES WHILE PENSIONERS ARE ON WAITING LISTS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC HOUSING. Airs on Monday. Should be a laugh
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Anidav posted:I wonder if there's a crazy Asian Mafia underbelly in Sunnybank. No underbelly. These guys: http://www.atccq.com.au
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