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Gonzo McFee posted:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-voting-mum-whose-tearful-7777008 Ooh Thanet, the cradle of democracy. Was Nige delayed?
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Semprini posted:Paxman: Did you threaten to impose a contract?
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Fans posted:So if Hunt is found out to be threatening to impose a contract without any legal right to do so what happens? Is this the kind of "Unlawful" that isn't really against the law and carries no punishment? "Found out to be" is not the issue. He has been. "Legally considered to be" is the issue, and I'd be shocked if he hasn't done everything entirely legally, via appropriately persuasive letters to the relevant people. He's not been personally involved in the negotiations as far as I'm aware, much as we all on both sides imply that he has been. I'd be surprised if this works, but sometimes doing things you know will fail to get publicity is a valid tactic, like running lefties in the Labour leadership election. And sometimes it works, like Corbyn. I hope this is one of those times, but I don't expect it. E: also: Guavanaut posted:A fine strategy famously employed in the case of R v. Pissflaps. Like gently caress Hunt will ever agree to be interviewed by anyone again ever. Until/unless he gets the premiership, anyway.
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Jose posted:Its probably a bit much to expect mcdonnell to turn up to everyones house to talk to them about politics but labour should give it a go McDonnnell running across the country endlessly, sleeplessly, encouraging every member of Britain to vote for Labour like a mad man spinning socialist plates.
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Gonzo McFee posted:McDonnnell running across the country endlessly, sleeplessly, encouraging every member of Britain to vote for Labour like a mad man spinning socialist plates. Basically a description of Labour's campaigning strategy which focusses heavily on doorstepping actual people by actual people including MPs, MEPs, councillors etc. My guy leads campaigning in person regularly. I keep meaning to try to get out and help but life conspires against me. Plus I'd be poo poo at doorstepping.
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Lt. Danger posted:This is bad for Maybe TIBFJC can be the DCFADP of our time.
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winegums posted:Maybe TIBFJC can be the DCFADP of our time. DCFADPTIBFJC
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thespaceinvader posted:
It's not like Cameron ever answers questions - he makes statements to camera and walks off
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Haha we've got four more years of this poo poo. I don't know about you guys but so far 2015-2020 seems like a much more amusing government to watch than the 2010-2015 one. I'm not sure they expected a majority and it shows, they were meant to smash and grab some assets and then let Labour clean up the mess and they didn't manage to escape in time and now they're out of coalition and everything is their fault. I hope we can have a Tory scandal every day for the next four years.
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I'm catching up on Thursday's Question Time and mods can I get a name change to 'a proud taxpayer'? thanks in advance
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Guavanaut posted:The punishment is life imprisonment inside the body of Jeremy Hunt. And we finally find the circumstances that lead me to back abolishing the HRA.
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Cerv posted:I don't think that "isn't Liz Kendall" is the great defence of Corbyn you think it is Well, I think it's an excellent point in his favour  Seriously though, think back to how Corbyn's responded to things like the proposed cuts to disability benefits or the Panama papers, then imagine the weak, timid, vacillating, one-the-one-hand, on-the-other-hand sort of lines that Cooper, Kendall or Burnham would have taken on the same issues. Cuts to disability: "These cuts are mean and brutal but also Tough and Necessary and we'd do the same as the Tories, except with sad faces, because Labour is the party of compassion". Result: they look like idiots when the government u-turns a few days later. The Panama Papers: "Questions need to be answered but we must not forget that Labour is the party of aspiration and what's more aspirational than hiding your loot in an offshore haven so you can avoid paying taxes/ hand it all down to your kids." Result: the public concludes that Labour are just as bad as the Tories.
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thespaceinvader posted:Plus I'd be poo poo at doorstepping. I could only do that if the householders submitted their questions and complaints in the form of a post, which I could reflect on and then reply in the same manner. I'd just have to take 2 tablets round with me, hand one to whoever answers the door, type: "Are you considering voting Labour in the upcoming elections? y/n" and then take it from there.
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Cerv posted:I don't think that "isn't Liz Kendall" is the great defence of Corbyn you think it is
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Guardian.txt posted:Welcome to 'the worst job in the world' Come on then, place your bets. What is the worst job in the world according to the Graun? 'My life as a Guardian moderator' http://gu.com/p/4t44q?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard  spoiler warning: in the end he says it was his favourite job ever but there's probably a bunch of lovely whining in the middle of that 10 million word article that i cba to read. communism bitch fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Oberleutnant posted:Come on then, place your bets. What is the worst job in the world according to the Graun? I mean, have you ever read a newspaper comment section? It is worse than the Something Awful forums. 
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tylerthecreator.jpg death rape etc threats are unacceptable, beyond that if you want to ban people saying nasty things from your site just do it and dont make such a martyr of yourself
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thespaceinvader posted:Basically a description of Labour's campaigning strategy which focusses heavily on doorstepping actual people by actual people including MPs, MEPs, councillors etc. My guy leads campaigning in person regularly. The thing about canvassing is that it's not really about talking to people about politics, it's about showing people that the Labour Party is personally reaching out to people. When people decide how to vote, being actively asked in person by one party helps alot.
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Oberleutnant posted:Come on then, place your bets. What is the worst job in the world according to the Graun? Thought it was a pretty interesting article and he never claims it's a difficult job, the titles of articles are rarely chosen by the author. He does however poke fun of people who never fully read articles but race to mock them in comments. So congrats on making his point I suppose.
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Oberleutnant posted:drat he really caught me out for not reading that longass wall of text about his job as an internet moderator If your not interested in it then why bring it up and post it here?
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Mega Comrade posted:If your not interested in it then why bring it up and post it here? Because of the title of the srticle as a fine example of guardian.txt, idiot
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Oberleutnant posted:Because of the title of the srticle as a fine example of guardian.txt, idiot Now it is you that is coming across as the idiot. The Guardian is a fine publication.
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Steve2911 posted:Now it is you that is coming across as the idiot. No it isn't.
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Oberleutnant posted:Because of the title of the srticle as a fine example of guardian.txt, idiot Don't sign your posts
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Pistol_Pete posted:Well, I think it's an excellent point in his favour It's setting the bar low. Lots of people aren't Liz Kendall
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Oberleutnant posted:Comments on the website can exceed 70,000 a day. Yes, there are trolls, but there is also wit, wisdom and a community worth fighting for, says a former moderator I will never understand how people manage to get any sense of community out of comment sections. At least with mutated link aggregator sites like reddit you can sort of see where the ability to collect reputation points for posts encourages people to stick around long enough to start remembering each other's handles, but even there it's still largely grand tier shitposting; the vast majority of people say what they want in one post and then leave, so out of 200 posts there's nearly nobody posting twice. How do you get a community out of that?
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I remember seeing something on Facebook a while back about how the comments section on parts of the Telegraph website was full of old people having a friendly chat each day, using first names and nattering about their grandkids and whatnot.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I remember seeing something on Facebook a while back about how the comments section on parts of the Telegraph website was full of old people having a friendly chat each day, using first names and nattering about their grandkids and whatnot. we should register copyright Grampsnet.com immediately. I have a feeling the 65-95 demographic s going to be really marketable this quarter
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Renaissance Robot posted:I will never understand how people manage to get any sense of community out of comment sections. At least with mutated link aggregator sites like reddit you can sort of see where the ability to collect reputation points for posts encourages people to stick around long enough to start remembering each other's handles, but even there it's still largely grand tier shitposting; the vast majority of people say what they want in one post and then leave, so out of 200 posts there's nearly nobody posting twice. How do you get a community out of that?
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Baron Corbyn posted:Since the election made all the polling organisations rejig their sample weighting, ComRes has consistently putting out polls with the Tories around 40-42% while everyone else has been putting them around 37-38 except YouGov who've been putting them around 34-35. I think ComRes has been overestimating the Tories and YouGov has been underestimating them. Either way, this is a drop of 7 points for the Tories compared to their best ComRes poll. Yeah this is right. Handily ComRes also puts out some rawer numbers, weighted only for demographics & recalled vote (see here: http://www.comres.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Sunday-Mirror-Independent-Political-Poll_April-2016-7241.pdf), in which Labour is ahead (and the Tories are on 28% lol). OvineYeast fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Dabir posted:Lots of people are worse. "Liz Kendall isn't as bad as Hitler" - cerv
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quote:Jeremy Corbyn is lifting the veil on the everyday thrills of being leader of the Labour party with a newly created Snapchat account. Corbyn has become the first major British politician to sign up to the messaging app, and his first day mainly documented him grappling with town hall meetings, journalists and numerous requests for photographs from members of the public. quote:The account was beset by a few aesthetic teething problems, with several of the photos – including one of Corbyn tucking into a takeaway – posted the wrong way round and others slightly out of focus.
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OvineYeast posted:Yeah this is right. Handily ComRes also puts out some rawer numbers, weighted only for demographics & recalled vote (see here: http://www.comres.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Sunday-Mirror-Independent-Political-Poll_April-2016-7241.pdf), in which Labour is ahead (and the Tories are on 28% lol). Conservatives are more popular with 18-24 year olds than any age bracket under 55... Actually, that makes sense. A lot of my sister's university friends voted Tory last year because they bought into the idea that Tories are the party of working people, because they're university students and haven't had to face the soul crushing reality yet.
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OvineYeast posted:Yeah this is right. Handily ComRes also puts out some rawer numbers, weighted only for demographics & recalled vote (see here: http://www.comres.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Sunday-Mirror-Independent-Political-Poll_April-2016-7241.pdf), in which Labour is ahead (and the Tories are on 28% lol). I suppose it's fair to weight it against shy tories, especially given the shittiness of the tories in the public opinion right now, but what I did find interesting was the voter retention - only 75% of Tory voters from the GE would vote Tory again, compared to 82% for Labour and UKIP. Not exactly a huge difference but notably lower than the other two. The Glib Dems only had 57% retention. 
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Baron Corbyn posted:Conservatives are more popular with 18-24 year olds than any age bracket under 55...
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Chocolate Teapot posted:"Liz Kendall isn't as bad as Hitler" - cerv I wouldn't say that. Not that it isn't true, but much like "Corbyn isn't as bad as Kendall" it's not particularly enlightening praise of the subject.
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