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Anidav posted:I'm feeling pretty good about this election. I'm feeling pretty meh. At the very best we'll get shorten with greens and a bunch of independents and other 3rd party'ers holding the balance of power in the senate and possibly the house. Which is admittedly better then the status quo but still a bit hard to get all  about.... I mean don't get me wrong, I will still most likely be drunken cheering come election night if Turnbulls booted, but your allowed to get a bit over excited about the less crappy candidate winning on election nights, there are just their own thing...
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Anidav posted:Watch the Unions destroy Turnbull piece by piece on TV. THE UNIONS ARE COMING! THE UNIONS ARE COMING! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpuokBQ8sXQ
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The Narrator posted:If Turnbull takes a win, how long does Shorten survive as opposition leader? Alternatively, if Turnbull loses outright (not likely imo, I would think a hung parliament is more on the cards if it's anything other than an outright win), would that be enough for the Liberal Right to start getting antsy about his usefulness? If they lose, Shorten will step down, Turnbull should step down. Magog posted:THE UNIONS ARE COMING! THE UNIONS ARE COMING! Not an entirely poo poo ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vt4WIGYXGg
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The Narrator posted:If Turnbull takes a win, how long does Shorten survive as opposition leader? Alternatively, if Turnbull loses outright (not likely imo, I would think a hung parliament is more on the cards if it's anything other than an outright win), would that be enough for the Liberal Right to start getting antsy about his usefulness? I couldn't see Shorten hanging on after a loss, there would be at least a challenge. If Turnbull loses this election that would be twice he's going to an election and lost. Challenge to come from the left or right. Problem with the challenge coming from the right, who the gently caress do they still have of note to Challenge Kevin Andrews. LOL. Edit: Could easily see Turnbull just stepping down. He's not young and a three year wait won't make him any younger. Also I'm sure he's noted Abbotts popularity dive amongst conservative for sticking around, so I could actually see Turnbull just straight up retiring if he lost. Best thing he could do for his 'legacy'. dr_rat fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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dr_rat posted:I couldn't see Shorten hanging on after a loss, there would be at least a challenge. If Turnbull loses this election that would be twice he's going to an election and lost. Challenge to come from the left or right. Problem with the challenge coming from the right, who the gently caress do they still have of note to Challenge Wait, wouldn't it still be the first time? He got booted out before the 2010 election.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wait, wouldn't it still be the first time? He got booted out before the 2010 election. Yeah your right. That was so many prime ministers ago its hard to keep track.
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Anidav posted:Julie Bishop would be opposition leader. Bishop, to me, seems pretty content keeping herself out of the firing line. She gets to keep her job and acts as a sort of steady hand for the party. All speculation of course, but one would think if she was interested, she would've at least put her hand up during the last knifing.
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Snod. posted:It's going to wipe out my crossbench if you know what I mean. Something something Usher of the black rod
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The Narrator posted:Bishop, to me, seems pretty content keeping herself out of the firing line. She gets to keep her job and acts as a sort of steady hand for the party. All speculation of course, but one would think if she was interested, she would've at least put her hand up during the last knifing. lmao no way then she'd be likened to Julia Gillard most likely she'll contest the leadership when the LNP next loses an election
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Anidav posted:Julie Bishop would be opposition leader. Yeah, if they were smart, but as she's from the left of the liberal party, as far as the right would be concerned I doubt they would consider it any improvement.
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read David Marr's quarterly essay on Bill Shorten, he wont step down when he loses, he will make the party sack him, he has wanted to be PM since forever which makes it all the more delicious that he won't ever get the job.
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Bishop is from WA. She won't be leader.
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EvilElmo posted:If they lose, Shorten will step down, Turnbull should step down. That ice dealer is surprisingly well groomed.
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a person who sells frozen water has more rights than a corrupt construction worker a good commercial
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hooman posted:That ice dealer is surprisingly well groomed. About as smug as most ice dealers I've seen though.
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hooman posted:That ice dealer is surprisingly well groomed. Dealer, not user.
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EvilElmo posted:Dealer, not user. Every drug dealer I've met hasn't looked like a well groomed hipster. Except for the well groomed hipster who sold hand grown artisnal weed.
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Negligent posted:read David Marr's quarterly essay on Bill Shorten, he wont step down when he loses, he will make the party sack him, he has wanted to be PM since forever which makes it all the more delicious that he won't ever get the job. Gosh that sounds familiar
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I still remember Marr's QE on Abbott before he was elected, when he says he asked Abbott off the record why he wanted to be PM, and wrote "I deeply wish I could tell you what he said." Maddeningly tantalising.
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Do you think Barnaby wrote the script for the Johhny Depp video?
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Snod. posted:About as smug as most ice dealers I've seen though. 
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Ey Tone can you give ol Bill some of them election winning pingas.
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Queensland, where as always, stupidity is a virtue worth fighting for:"Plan to increase cannabis penalties to match harder drugs under attack posted:Plans by the Queensland government to increase penalties for cannabis possession and trafficking to match those for “harder” drugs has been described by drug policy experts as a “retrograde” and “uninformed” step.
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dr_rat posted:Queensland, where as always, stupidity is a virtue worth fighting for: Haha I can even see the thought process "omg Victoria has medicinal cannabis, we'll probably SUPPLY them, we must nip that in the bud hawhahw", good old Qld always the wrong side of history. I agree, Mal will quit if he loses the election, he doesn't need this poo poo. Bill will indeed make an exit painful, and both parties have Buckleys of anyone remotely competent to be PM. Bishop will always stay away. It's parps all the way down.
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http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s4445590.htm Good Mediawatch on the child kidnapping thing.
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Do we have a new prime minister yet
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Skellybones posted:Do we have a new prime minister yet Not according to Negligent.
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Skellybones posted:Do we have a new prime minister yet Yes, and it's Malcolm Turnbull, because, if newspapers are anything to go by, there is a need for a budget surplus among people. Macroeconomics and fiscal policy be damned. Which fits nicely with LNP branding. Am I wrong in identifying this as an important if not the most important perceived problem?
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I honestly believe that the media in this country is extremely harmful to political discourse, framing every discussion in terms that are favourable to the LNP. I see the ALP as having to play against a stacked deck each and every election.
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People believe the LNP are better at economic management despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. It mostly stems from Howard riding the mining boom and Labor inheriting that mess at the same time the GFC came along.
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Hahahahaha australia made johhny depp and his wife appologize on video like its loving north korea or something? Hahahahahaha
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hakimashou posted:Hahahahaha australia made johhny depp and his wife appologize on video like its loving north korea or something? Were they actually forced to? Shame whoever decided upon it didn't realise everyone would immediately take the piss out of it.
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Barnaby was behind the camera with a .22 pointed at them, you know it's true.
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Zenithe posted:Were they actually forced to? Shame whoever decided upon it didn't realise everyone would immediately take the piss out of it. I think it was more along the lines of their lawyer advising them that a public statement would assist with the sentencing.
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The household budget analogy is easy for people to understand - the best way to fight it is to convert the debt to the homeloan and the GDP to the household budget. No-one panics if they have a homeloan they could pay off with a few months of bills. Then mention how we're way better off than most other countries anyway. I'm still preferencing the libs because I don't want the Greens to have a skerrick of power.
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I paid off my household debts with currency I printed myself household surplus, bitches
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Birdstrike posted:I paid off my household debts with bitcoins good value odds crypto currencies get a mention in the budget
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