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Rhyno posted:DC really, REALLY wanted JD to be the next Harley Quinn and they were really close to giving her a hard push. Supposedly there are two completed issues of a canceled JD ongoing series sitting in a drawer somewhere by an unnamed creative team. They should do another cancelled comics cavalcade. a trade every few years would be cool.
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Travis343 posted:I don't understand that at all. Not only is Harley still making them a buttload of money but why would you just take another crazy girl version of the same loving villain and expect it to take off? I guess because they're trying to shift Harley into being
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Travis343 posted:I don't understand that at all. Not only is Harley still making them a buttload of money but why would you just take another crazy girl version of the same loving villain and expect it to take off? Maybe give a Superman villain or one of Flash's rogues a Harley of their own and see what happens but christ don't just give us the Big Lots version of Harley. TwoPair posted:I guess because they're trying to shift Harley into being I'd bet it's that. HQ is palling around with Green Lantern so they need an evil clown chick. DC wanted their own Carnage.
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Apr 16, 2016 03:44
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Rhyno posted:I'd bet it's that. HQ is palling around with Green Lantern so they need an evil clown chick. DC wanted their own Carnage. Isn't their Carnage just the Joker?
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Apr 16, 2016 03:56
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Gaz-L posted:Isn't their Carnage just the Joker?
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Rhyno posted:I'd bet it's that. HQ is palling around with Green Lantern so they need an evil clown chick. DC wanted their own Carnage. Does this make Harley Quinn into Venom: Lethal Protector in this analogy? Paging Dr. Gavok to the thread...
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Gaz-L posted:Isn't their Carnage just the Joker? TwoPair posted:Does this make Harley Quinn into Venom: Lethal Protector in this analogy? Paging Dr. Gavok to the thread... This is what I meant, Harley's an anti-hero now so they need a new HQ. Just like what they did with Venom.
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Apr 16, 2016 04:05
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Rhyno posted:I'd bet it's that. HQ is palling around with Green Lantern so they need an evil clown chick. We'll always have that one-shot where she kills like 30 children 
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Apr 16, 2016 04:08
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And just like Carnage JD was edgy for edginess sake. The analogy works.
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Apr 16, 2016 05:33
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Jokers Daughter would be great if she was a comedy villain for the Teen Titams. That would take DC realizing the Teen Titans should be a fun book.
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Good thing Damian Wayne is the king of fun! E: Everyone's reading Batman/TMNT, right?  
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Apr 16, 2016 10:23
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I''ve been reading through new 52 batman and nightwing. And I had read that damian wayne was supposed to die at some point during the new 52 continuity. I was fully expecting this to happen during death of the family...but then it ended, no one died (in the batman trade). So I switch it up and decide to move on to Nightwing...and damian's dead in #18, which is in the 'death of the family' trade for nightwing. That's confusing. I'm confused.
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Apr 16, 2016 12:43
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They let his author dad Grant Morrison kill him in Batman Incorporated. Peter Tomasi's Batman and Robin was the only other Batman comic that really cared about it after one issue. As you know, Snyder practically never used him. e: Snyder's Batman had an aftermath issue, but they shifted it to trade #6 with a few other one-shot story issues. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Apr 16, 2016 12:52
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Teenage Fansub posted:They let his author dad Grant Morrison kill him in Batman Incorporated. That silent issue of B&R was so well done. I love B&R so much more than Snyder's standalone Batman title. Even during Death and the Family it felt like the book with the most horror elements to it, but also brought about the most human elements to Bruce and Damian. Plus all the art in that run was super badass. Starting from after Morrison's run on B&R with Quietly. poo poo all of Batman and Robin is great.
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Apr 16, 2016 17:18
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Teenage Fansub posted:Good thing Damian Wayne is the king of fun! Best Bat book right now!
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Apr 16, 2016 17:18
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From Bleeding Coolquote:I understand that the DC Rebirth titles have a two year story arc that all books will be a part of, to varying degrees. A Two year arc!? Ugh.
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Apr 16, 2016 21:57
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Just like Pandora last time!
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Apr 16, 2016 22:03
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Oh boy, a two year plotline, just in time for the next continuity reboot.
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Apr 16, 2016 22:13
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Thirding or whatever my love of an editorially mandated multi-year storyline. Why did Rucka come back to put up with that poo poo again?
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He was a big part in setting up Infinite Crisis. Maybe it's fun  HitTheTargets posted:Were Forever Evil, Trinity War, and Darkseid War two year arcs? Because they sure felt like it. If you count it all as one Earth 3 League thing, it'll be just about three years. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 04:16
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Were Forever Evil, Trinity War, and Darkseid War two year arcs? Because they sure felt like it.
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HitTheTargets posted:Were Forever Evil, Trinity War, and Darkseid War two year arcs? Because they sure felt like it. This was actually one of the things I liked about the New 52. It started with a Darkseid invasion and ends with a War against him.
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Veg posted:This was actually one of the things I liked about the New 52. It started with a Darkseid invasion and ends with a War against him. I don't think thats how it works. They just decided to kill Darkseid. Apparently for good despite having done very little with him during this reboot. I feel like what they have done with Darkseid is underwhelming for the character who is pretty much the biggest villain DC has.
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'for good', huh? They've actually done quite a bit with the Fourth World and Darkseid short of giving them their own series (e: well, not counting Forever People.) Jiro posted:
Just sayin' the Countdown to Infinite crisis one-shot, checkmate and OMAC stuff was real good! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 08:41
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Teenage Fansub posted:He was a big part in setting up Infinite Crisis. Maybe it's fun  No! Nononononononononono Not again! Johns was the main instigator of that poo poo event. It's probably at two years because they're finally taking in precautions for art delays and last minute plot changes that will be mandated by WB higher ups. For fucks sake can they please stop having Johns be the head of these massive mandated shifts and reboots?
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Bringing back the continuity? I thought DC reboot was going to loosen up on continuity, even having some kind of comic with Stargirl as a continuity police squad. What's going on there?
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Apr 17, 2016 11:20
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That was last year's.
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Apr 17, 2016 12:01
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Infinite Crisis was a good and led to a revival of a number of DC properties and ideas that all turned out good.
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Infinite Crisis, the seven issue mini, can best be described as that unfinished splash page in #7 that didn't have time to be colored. There's a lot of stuff in it, what is there was competently done, but it blurs together as a really forgettable mess that just sits there on the page.
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HitTheTargets posted:Infinite Crisis, the seven issue mini, can best be described as that unfinished splash page in #7 that didn't have time to be colored. There's a lot of stuff in it, what is there was competently done, but it blurs together as a really forgettable mess that just sits there on the page. The biggest misstep with that splash page was that it was only a splash page. The battle of Metropolis should have had an issue to itself. It was supposed to be a giant all out brawl and was a letdown. That is my only complaint with IC. It was an enjoyable event. Countdown to, the lead in minis, and the spin off series and minis for the most part were all good.
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Mr Hootington posted:The biggest misstep with that splash page was that it was only a splash page. The battle of Metropolis should have had an issue to itself. It was supposed to be a giant all out brawl and was a letdown. Absolutely nothing in any of the books that had "Countdown" in the title were good at all.
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Despite Johns' tenure on GL being what got me back into comics, I don't trust the current Johns to be able to handle a long term storyline. Through the whole N52 he kept introducing plot elements here and there that were never really followed upon (that shadowy guy at the end of his Superman run, the whole thing with Vibe) or took directions widely different to their original setup (Forever Evil, Pandora, Grail) I want to think this is mainly to his focus being elsewhere but is undeniable he has making things up as he goes, so the idea of having this huge storyline spanning the whole line will impact negatively on every book to some degree.
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Rhyno posted:Absolutely nothing in any of the books that had "Countdown" in the title were good at all. I really liked Countdown to Infinite Crisis, even though it killed off my lifelong favorite character. I thought he got a great sendoff and a heroic, moving death, which is more than most DC C-listers get. I also liked Gail Simone's Villains United miniseries a lot, and thought her Secret Six series that followed never hit any of those same heights.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I really liked Countdown to Infinite Crisis, even though it killed off my lifelong favorite character. I thought he got a great sendoff and a heroic, moving death, which is more than most DC C-listers get. Villians United, Day of Vengeance, Rann/Thanagar and OMAC all had "Prelude" on the cover and are thus exempt from Countdown suckage.
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Rhyno posted:Absolutely nothing in any of the books that had "Countdown" in the title were good at all. I'm not talking about the lovely sequel to 52. That was a terrible book. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Mr Hootington posted:I'm not talking about the lovely sequel to 52. That was a terrible book. That was 52 done right
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Rhyno posted:Absolutely nothing in any of the books that had "Countdown" in the title were good at all. (Looks at the comics that had the Jokester in it.) 
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Apr 17, 2016 21:24
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IC gave us SuperBoyMan Prime. That almost redeems the aftermath of it all.
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FilthyImp posted:IC gave us SuperBoyMan Prime. That almost redeems the aftermath of it all. He was really insufferable in IC and was given better characterization during Sinestro Corps War. And better motivation. Villains United and Day of Vengeance were SO good. Villains United even had a great final final issue showing all these street level and stronger b and c list heroes making GBS threads their collective pants at the sight of a strolling Doomsday. None of that was there in Infinite Crisis, it was also Villain's United that made Alexander Luthor an interesting character. IC he just gets loving ganked by the Joker, but not before he makes a galactic goatse.
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It looks like Super-Man's name has been changed to sound a little less Japanese now.
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