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doverhog posted:No, that's because of your whole posting history most of which has nothing to do with sääntely. so in short y'all mad because it's ligur who's writing the posts
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Nauta posted:so in short y'all mad because it's ligur who's writing the posts Tästä säikeestä heittämällä ainakin 30% on pelkkää loukkaantumista Ligurin olemassaolosta
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Apr 16, 2016 17:49
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Not believing his hilarious anecdotes and being mad are not the same thing.
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Apr 16, 2016 18:07
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i don't believe you
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It's incredible to me that when there is an owner of a boat that is seaworthy, the owner isn't free to teach boaters... to boat. And posters actually champion the case he should not be allowed to. Hooray! Regulations clicked again! For common good! What the gently caress.... edit: doverhog posted:Not believing his hilarious anecdotes and being mad are not the same thing. You really think I make up my posts, don't you? Just imagine poo poo up for your sake and post them here. Ligur fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Apr 16, 2016 19:39
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Overregulation is bad. What a truly novel, groundbreaking idea you've had. Maybe you should run for office?
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Ligur posted:It's incredible to me that when there is an owner of a boat that is seaworthy, the owner isn't free to teach boaters... to boat. Did someone actually defend the boat regulators? I know I didn't. Quote the post where someone did that if there is one. My original post was about how no one was actually defending Trafi, but rather doubting your character and truthfulness, Ligur. Because you are literally boat Hitler. That's a joke btw.
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i doubt the character and truthfulness of any d&d leftist
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Nauta posted:i doubt the character and truthfulness of any d&d leftist What if those leftists vote for a literally national socialist party?
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i'd literally doubt their character and truthfulness
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Kännissä ja läpällä
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Nauta posted:so in short y'all mad because it's ligur who's writing the posts There is just one person that is mad and is still mad because he isn't being believed on the internet Everyone else just didn't believe him
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you wouldn't make sweeping generalizations based on the personal anecdotes of a few posters now would you 
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Nauta posted:you wouldn't make sweeping generalizations based on the personal anecdotes of a few posters now would you I'd make an surly reply but I honestly can't even parse what the gotcha is supposed to be here 
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In other news, the road network will be privatizised: http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2016041721429399_uu.shtml
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Kemper Boyd posted:In other news, the road network will be privatizised: http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2016041721429399_uu.shtml I hope they at least told this one to the other parties in the government this time... quote:Iltalehden käsityksen mukaan hallitus ei ole hyväksynyt ehdotuksia. hahahahaha man if this whole thing isn't just virkamieshuhu Berner is such a piece of poo poo DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 14:05
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Cock posted:Sijoittajat saisivat tuoton investoinneilleen ratamaksuista ja kilometriperusteisista autoilijan tiemaksuista. Maksut kerättäisiin seuranta- ja paikanninlaitteiden avulla. Paikannus on mahdollista tehdä esimerkiksi matkapuhelinverkkoa hyödyksi käyttäen. So if they can't do the kilometriperusteinen tiemaksu by law, they'll just sell the roads and charge the users 100e/km to use the shittiest gravel roads in existence. Brilliant. I can't wait to see how Geriatric Pirate spins this as a communist plot to oppress the capitalist classes.
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Darkest Auer posted:So if they can't do the kilometriperusteinen tiemaksu by law, they'll just sell the roads and charge the users 100e/km to use the shittiest gravel roads in existence. Brilliant. I can't wait to see how Geriatric Pirate spins this as a communist plot to oppress the capitalist classes. You know when you vote for right-wing parties and they do stuff that you absolutely not support, you might be an idiot. I remember someone ITT explaining how the right won't cut welfare or education because who'd want that.
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Darkest Auer posted:So if they can't do the kilometriperusteinen tiemaksu by law, they'll just sell the roads and charge the users 100e/km to use the shittiest gravel roads in existence. Brilliant. I can't wait to see how Geriatric Pirate spins this as a communist plot to oppress the capitalist classes. Kind of hard to comment on a vague rumor the government has shot down, but once again this isn't an issue of rich vs poor, it's an issue of making taxation smarter / attacking entrenched interests. It's just that most posters here will defend anything the unions do and automatically assume policies help the poor (like ansiosidonnainen etc). Taxing people based on the amount they drive (or pollute) instead of the value of their car is a way to reduce pollution and have road upkeep paid for by the people (and companies) that actually use the roads instead of making everyone pay for it. Ps: As for the lovely gravel roads, can you give one example of a place that has both private and public roads where private roads are generally in WORSE condition than public roads?
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Kind of hard to comment on a vague rumor the government has shot down, but once again this isn't an issue of rich vs poor, it's an issue of making taxation smarter / attacking entrenched interests. It's just that most posters here will defend anything the unions do and automatically assume policies help the poor (like ansiosidonnainen etc). Taxing people based on the amount they drive (or pollute) instead of the value of their car is a way to reduce pollution and have road upkeep paid for by the people (and companies) that actually use the roads instead of making everyone pay for it. Finland?
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punakone posted:Finland? Funny but true.
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punakone posted:Finland? Yeah ok I meant places where private roads are more than mökkitiet for areas where the government won't build a road and that actually see some traffic
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Taxing people based on the amount they drive (or pollute) instead of the value of their car is a way to reduce pollution and have road upkeep paid for by the people (and companies) that actually use the roads instead of making everyone pay for it. I see you took the "flat tax" approach, which is known for being favorable to the rich. Also, have you noticed how less rich people tend to live in the suburbs farther away from the jobs?
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Darkest Auer posted:I see you took the "flat tax" approach, which is known for being favorable to the rich. Also, have you noticed how less rich people tend to live in the suburbs farther away from the jobs? Well obviously they should move closer to the jobs. Those monsters are destroying the environment!
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Darkest Auer posted:I see you took the "flat tax" approach, which is known for being favorable to the rich. Also, have you noticed how less rich people tend to live in the suburbs farther away from the jobs? *desperately thinks of a way to turn an environment-saving tax into a tax on the poor* uuuuuh suburbs, yeah, poor people live in suburbs, it's a tax on the poor! a horrible regressive tax on all the poor people living in their suburbs driving to work will be crushed by this tax -- young upper middle class student posting on SA
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Geriatric Pirate posted:uuuuuh suburbs, yeah, poor people live in suburbs, it's a tax on the poor! a horrible regressive tax on all the poor people living in their suburbs driving to work will be crushed by this tax For once I think we can all agree with Geriatric Pirate
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DarkCrawler posted:I hope they at least told this one to the other parties in the government this time... has to be just a wild rumor about some internal meno or some poo poo, after caruna nobody that manages to walk on two feet could be retarded enough to seriously consider this although... quote:Kyseessä voi olla Bernerin hurja loppukiri. Poliittiset huhut ovat väittäneet, että hän jättää ministerin tehtävät ensi syksynä. if this all somehow comes together and they actually have berner do it only to stop, drop and roll into some suojaduuni it would be absolutely amazing
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Geriatric Pirate posted:*desperately thinks of a way to turn an environment-saving tax into a tax on the poor* uuuuuh suburbs, yeah, poor people live in suburbs, it's a tax on the poor! a horrible regressive tax on all the poor people living in their suburbs driving to work will be crushed by this tax Uhhh... yeah? Because public transportation doesn't cover enough areas, is too infrequent and is too expensive. And they're making it worse every year. brakeless posted:has to be just a wild rumor about some internal meno or some poo poo, after caruna nobody that manages to walk on two feet could be retarded enough to seriously consider this What does your heart tell you?
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Berner is capable of anything. She has stated herself that she doesn't give a poo poo about any sort of political career, she was brought in to tear apart Transport and Communication and make them not hemorrhage money and that's it.
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Darkest Auer posted:Uhhh... yeah? Because public transportation doesn't cover enough areas, is too infrequent and is too expensive. And they're making it worse every year. Have you ever actually met a poor person?
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Have you ever actually met a poor person? Close thread.
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Darkest Auer posted:What does your heart tell you? Buffalo squeeze posted:Berner is capable of anything. She has stated herself that she doesn't give a poo poo about any sort of political career, she was brought in to tear apart Transport and Communication and make them not hemorrhage money and that's it. well, just so you guys know, my war rig will have stairs on it
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Yeah man, all those doctors and engineers riding the bus to work while cleaners and unemployed people are stuck driving around. Wow. Literally the opposite of reality. Public transport is so lovely these days that only the people living in inner cities - where the living isn't cheap - can rely on it for work transportation and only if they work in those cities as well. Anywhere more rural you need a car to even get groceries, and if you want a job, you absolutely need a car of your own. And doctors and engineers do take the bus to work, and frequently - they can concentrate on their work and not the driving conditions or parking.
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endlessmonotony posted:Wow. I can't believe that I actually have to explain that, yes, car use is an increasing function of income... Or actually, no, I'm not surprised at all that once again the left wing posters (mostly upper middle class students) on this thread have no idea about what poverty is.  Try stepping out of your bubble for a second.
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It still baffles me that Berner is in kepu. I remember reading she basically tossed a coin to pick between the parties, and ending up in kepu made it easier to fit her into the cabinet I guess since it's basically another slot for kokoomus but taken up by kepu on paper.
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The government has revealed their plan to cut the amount of unemployed louts by making them take any job - even those they have no training for - or face a cut in their welfare checks. This includes jobs that pay less than what they'd get with just their checks. They'll also have to travel further to their designated workplace. Worker unions are calling this as pure blackmail. Corporations are clapping their hands in delight. This practically creates a pool of cheap below market-price labour. What fun.
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Yeah ok I meant places where private roads are more than mökkitiet for areas where the government won't build a road and that actually see some traffic Are you aware of what a tiekunta is?
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Rexroom posted:The government has revealed their plan to cut the amount of unemployed louts by making them take any job - even those they have no training for - or face a cut in their welfare checks. This includes jobs that pay less than what they'd get with just their checks. They'll also have to travel further to their designated workplace. Worker unions are calling this as pure blackmail. Corporations are clapping their hands in delight. This practically creates a pool of cheap below market-price labour. What fun. The main issue I am wondering about is that they can pass such a measure, yes, but it will not do anything because there's no jobs available anyway.
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Kemper Boyd posted:The main issue I am wondering about is that they can pass such a measure, yes, but it will not do anything because there's no jobs available anyway. You'll say that until you're my free dick sucking slave living on scraps I throw you.
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Kemper Boyd posted:The main issue I am wondering about is that they can pass such a measure, yes, but it will not do anything because there's no jobs available anyway. Unemployment will drop to zero after everyone without job gets employed as puhelinmyyjä.
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