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FuzzySkinner posted:The Nixon adminstration created the EPA, "The War on Cancer", and OSHA. He didn't care about any of that; the Democratic Congress did, and he knew he had no leverage to fight them on it. Nixon's presidency, if he'd been able, would have been him sitting in a dark room with Henry Kissinger playing Risk with real soldiers.
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Naerasa posted:Whoa its a good thing you found the one lady who speaks for all black people. You have your head up your rear end if you don't acknowledge at least the potential appeal of Trump to blacks
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Alter Ego posted:He didn't care about any of that; the Democratic Congress did, and he knew he had no leverage to fight them on it. Nixon's presidency, if he'd been able, would have been him sitting in a dark room with Henry Kissinger playing Risk with real soldiers. Dude at least payed lip service to it and didn't obstruct like a grandstanding jackass. Cruz would.
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Naerasa posted:Whoa its a good thing you found the one lady who speaks for all black people. and lo, the queen of black people addressed the court, declaring "i like donald trump because of his bling and all the hot white bitches he fucks"
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FuzzySkinner posted:Dude at least payed lip service to it and didn't obstruct like a grandstanding jackass. that's a fair distinction, but don't get nixon an iota of credit he doesn't deserve; his administration didn't create those things, he allowed them to happen because it was politically beneficial for himself.
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Apr 18, 2016 20:08
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Karl Sharks posted:that's a fair distinction, but don't get nixon an iota of credit he doesn't deserve; his administration didn't create those things, he allowed them to happen because it was politically beneficial for himself. Not denying that. But again, that's the difference between a guy like Cruz and Nixon. Nixon was an ego maniac, but he'd do anything to make sure he'd look good politically. Cruz is ALL that PLUS he's a Ayn Rand/Dominionist ideological dipshit.
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Apr 18, 2016 20:11
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Vile posted:You have your head up your rear end if you don't acknowledge at least the potential appeal of Trump to blacks There is already a statistically insignificant group of black people that always vote Republican. You aren't selling that he'll draw them in significant numbers.
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Trump definitely has hip hop appeal with his misogyny, flaunted wealth, and alpha male posturing.
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Karl Sharks posted:that's a fair distinction, but don't get nixon an iota of credit he doesn't deserve; his administration didn't create those things, he allowed them to happen because it was politically beneficial for himself. cruz won't even do that tho is the point
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TheTatteredKing posted:There is already a statistically insignificant group of black people that always vote Republican. You aren't selling that he'll draw them in significant numbers. I think you are blinded by your SJW ness
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pathetic little tramp posted:Rex Ryan has endorsed Donald Trump. Ted Cruz is gonna go Travis Bickle on NY after tomorrow
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Jewel Repetition posted:Trump definitely has hip hop appeal with his misogyny, flaunted wealth, and alpha male posturing. Yup
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Alter Ego posted:He didn't care about any of that; the Democratic Congress did, and he knew he had no leverage to fight them on it. Nixon's presidency, if he'd been able, would have been him sitting in a dark room with Henry Kissinger playing Risk with real soldiers. Nixon imposed wage and price controls on the country. Recall that there was a "Pay Board" and a "Price Commission", and wage/price increases had to be cleared with the feds. Imagine the simultaneous explosions of heads if Obama even joked about such a thing.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Dude at least payed lip service to it and didn't obstruct like a grandstanding jackass. But he did!! He vetoed the Clean Waters Act (creating the EPA) among other progressive legislation you listed. Its just that Congress had a veto-proof majority. One thing he managed to successfully veto was nation-wide paid leave and child care legislation, so there's that. Vile posted:You have your head up your rear end if you don't acknowledge at least the potential appeal of Trump to blacks And atoms are actually made of pint-sized elephants...potentially. But its all about likelihood. And microns-length pachyderms being the basis of existence is more realistic than Trump winning a significant percentage of the black vote. Shageletic fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Vile posted:I think you are blinded by your SJW ness Sorry I don't see the axiomatic nature of your argument
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FuzzySkinner posted:Not denying that. mandatory lesbian posted:cruz won't even do that tho is the point yeah, note i wasn't speaking about cruz at all, just saying i get tired of the "nixon was liberal/progressive!!" poo poo that pops up. yes, he did allow it to happen, which is better than what cruz would do by far, but don't say he was proactive in it and give him credit for it is all
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Maoist Pussy posted:The people in your neighborhood must be real twats. I'm guessing a couple of kids, but it's the kind of neighborhood where no one touches your Halloween pumpkins and your new, drying sidewalk will get tagged with "ICP Rules" so who knows
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lmao here we go  e: anyone know if there are crosstabs to the favorable/unfavorable bit by race? But Rocks Hurt Head fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Alter Ego posted:He didn't care about any of that; the Democratic Congress did, and he knew he had no leverage to fight them on it. Nixon's presidency, if he'd been able, would have been him sitting in a dark room with Henry Kissinger playing Risk with real soldiers. Guess what Nixon knew that Obama don't: Bombs take jobs to produce, and jobs win votes.
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yeah trump is totally hip hop i bet he- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLVDfymZ_c ah.
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Donald Trump is viewed nationally as nearly twice as unfavorably as Ted Cruz and Hillary Clinton. My God.
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mandatory lesbian posted:cruz won't even do that tho is the point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1j65Um0TNk Nixon: "Yes we can reduce the defense budget." Cruz: http://www.cato.org/blog/ted-cruzs-defense-spending-plan-lots-debt-not-much-strategy "LET'S GO BACK TO BUSH LEVEL SPENDING!!!" Nixon: " Yes we can reduce conventional forces in europe." Cruz: https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/stand-with-israel/ "MORE MONEY FOR ISRAEL!!!" Nixon: "Yes we can protect the environment." Cruz: http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/03/27/3640110/no-more-climate-regulation-please-signed-ted-cruz/ "MY BIG OIL SUPPORTERS WANT ME TO GET RID OF THE EPA" Nixon:"Yes we can improve healthcare and make it more available for more people" Cruz: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-obamacare-iowa_us_56ad66a1e4b077d4fe8e6396 /has threw a tantrum like a loving 3 year old over repealing obamacare. That's how evil of a man Ted Cruz is.
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Trump literally brought a crip and a blood together on a track to diss him but I'm sure he'll be bringing in the black vote like crazy once he pivots
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:lmao here we go The last I saw Trump had something like a 91% unfavorable by blacks I'm telling you it will change. The man actually hasn't done anything bad to blacks. It's the image from the primaries of white supporters at rallies and the KKK stuff. It was all planted. All a set up by the media. It was obvious at the time and should be now. I'm telling you 20% of black voters will wake up to that and see the betrayal and how used they were by Clinton and the Left. Trump will speak to them and they will hear. We also have Friend Ben. that's a lot of voters
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Trump will get endorsements from Blacks like Snoop etc Just recently Ice cube said Trump is the American dream personified http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ice-cube-donald-trump-is-what-americans-love-20160413 He is such a celeb and can control media so well... Blacks are really influenced by media too so listen ignore the threat at your own peril.... (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Prof. Lurker posted:http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politics/donald-trump-reince-priebus-nomination/ Does the nominee actually have the power to do that?
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Vile posted:The last I saw Trump had something like a 91% unfavorable by blacks lol this rules. See you in July then.
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Carrasco posted:Does the nominee actually have the power to do that? Yes the presumptive nominee sets convention stuff and then after nomination usually takes majority control of the GOP leadership. One more reason you should Vote Trump and encourage democrats to do there same
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Jewel Repetition posted:Trump definitely has hip hop appeal with his misogyny, flaunted wealth, and alpha male posturing. Turns out the actual black vote is overwhelmingly church-going, older, and female, and mostly hate that stuff. Uh oh!
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Carrasco posted:Does the nominee actually have the power to do that? No.
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If blacks were not overly influenced by the MSM and identity politics why would they continue to support liberal and democratic policies and politicians?
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Vile posted:If blacks were not overly influenced by the MSM and identity politics why would they continue to support liberal and democratic policies and politicians? Because they're often economically disadvantaged and Democrats have more progressive economic policies?
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Vox Nihili posted:Turns out the actual black vote is overwhelmingly church-going, older, and female, and mostly hate that stuff. Uh oh! Those would never cross over obviously and yes do represent the vast majority of Dems. We are fighting for the 10-15% or so that are influencable by things like Trump memes
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The republicans being the anti-minority, pro-voter-supression party might have something to do with it. You don't get to sound dog whistles for decades without people catching on.
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Vile posted:If blacks were not overly influenced by the MSM and identity politics why would they continue to support liberal and democratic policies and politicians? Boy, you're just gonna keep saying "blacks" like that, huh?
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I mean, I fundamentally disagree that Trump will get any meaningful percentage of the black or hispanic vote, but hey, Ted Cruz is twice as favorable as Donald Trump so we're clearly in a world that doesn't make sense anymore.
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Apr 18, 2016 20:51
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Vile posted:The man actually hasn't done anything bad to blacks. Well, sure. Unless you count when the DOJ had to sue his company TWICE for not renting to blacks, or when he took out full page ads that led to the wrongful conviction of the "Central Park 5", or saying he didn't trust blacks counting his money, managers having to hide black employees when they knew Trump would be visiting a property, or stoking the whole Obama birther thing, and inciting violence against Black Lives Matter protesters....
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Hillary is going to pull off what John Kerry could not, which is win solely based off of 'I know I suck but seriously, gently caress that other guy, am I right'
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