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Travis343 posted:I agree the Doomsday fight was pretty cool. Yeah it was an overly CGI special effects shitshow but it was a real nice looking one.
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Travis343 posted:So based on my observations there seems to be 2 crowds of people that loved BvS - completely uncritical nerds who love everything with a batsignal on it and think it's unironically badass when tons of people die in a superhero movie, and extremely critical nerds who are desperate to appear more educated than other nerds and so call movies 'cinema' and hate every Marvel movie because I guess there's a lot of cars in the street in Avengers. It's stupid, I actually enjoyed the film, enough I'll buy it when it comes out on bluray. It feels like something I can pop in once and a while and watch while i'm playing Marvel heroes or Fallout or something. Why did I like it? It's like Revenge of the Sith, there's a lot of poo poo in there, but there's some stuff i legitimately enjoy. One of the major characters is actively terrible while others are just there, but others are actually trying to make bad material work. Plus there are certain things that when I see them, i turn into a kid who just loves this poo poo uncritically because I'm a kid, whether those are lightsabers and X-wings, or Superman flying or Batman grappling. Though we've talked about this before, how you can say "this is a bad movie" but still enjoy it. This isn't Wolverine Origins or Green Lantern, or as was mentioned, Suckerpunch. I mean, the only things I activily hated was Doomsday and The Flash, and not the characters being there, but what we got on screen. Lazy boring Doomsday design and a Flash that looks like someone never actually looked at who anyone who's held that title is.
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Travis343 posted:So based on my observations there seems to be 2 crowds of people that loved BvS - completely uncritical nerds who love everything with a batsignal on it and think it's unironically badass when tons of people die in a superhero movie, and extremely critical nerds who are desperate to appear more educated than other nerds and so call movies 'cinema' and hate every Marvel movie because I guess there's a lot of cars in the street in Avengers. 'Everyone who likes different movies than me is subhuman' I think you should try being more positive
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twistedmentat posted:It's stupid, I actually enjoyed the film, enough I'll buy it when it comes out on bluray. It feels like something I can pop in once and a while and watch while i'm playing Marvel heroes or Fallout or something. Why did I like it? It's like Revenge of the Sith, there's a lot of poo poo in there, but there's some stuff i legitimately enjoy. One of the major characters is actively terrible while others are just there, but others are actually trying to make bad material work. Plus there are certain things that when I see them, i turn into a kid who just loves this poo poo uncritically because I'm a kid, whether those are lightsabers and X-wings, or Superman flying or Batman grappling. To be honest I like origins better. BVS doesn't have Will.I.AM "acting" It has Gal Gadot who doesn't act well either but it just isn't the same CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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One thing I love about BvS is that the first time you see Batman, he's up in the corner of that room, looking like some inhuman monster. Gave me a similar rush of excitement like Batman Begins when they did "Where are you!?" "Here!"
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Goffer posted:There was a study done recently where it was found that people with botox can't mirror the facial expression of people and therefore find it hard to empathise or relate emotionally to another person. In fact, one of the main ways we feel emotion and empathy is generally though mirroring the facial expressions of others. Maybe it's superman's golemlike gorm throughout the movies makes the viewer less able to actually feel anything for him or the movie as there is little opportunity to feel any emotion in the movie. This is competent acting. Superman is torn about being worshipped as god. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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SonicRulez posted:Yes.  The other thread kept calling you on making poo poo up and being willfully ignorant, glad you found a friendly trough to slop in.
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Every desperate defense I see of BvS makes me more excited to not see it.
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King of Foolians posted:I know he stopped the World Engine in MoS and took down Doomsday which saved countless lives, blah blah blah, but it still didn't feel like him saving the day. That's a weird position. It's kind of obvious that the day was saved if you think about it for a moment. King of Foolians posted:This is even carried over into BvS. Uncle Ben and Spiderman taught us that 'with great power comes great responsibility', but according to Ma Kent, with great power comes....well, you don't owe anything to anyone. This is true, it's better to help as a choice. e: Uncle Boogeyman posted:Every desperate defense I see of BvS makes me more excited to not see it. I'm certainly afraid, because people in this thread have suggested that directors should not have freedom with genre properties, so that stuff like BvS is not made again. It's a rather horrifying prospect. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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My Superman is Ben Affleck.. But in Hollywoodland. Seriously, everyone go watch Hollywoodland.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I'm certainly afraid, because people in this thread have suggested that directors should not have freedom with genre properties, so that stuff like BvS is not made again. Afraid, really? I think you have convinced yourself that this thread is more important to the overall path of cinema as an institution over the next 100 years than it actually is.
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I am terrified, terrified that cinema may not see something so brilliant as Zack Snyder's Man of Steel 2 again
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I am terrified, terrified that cinema may not see something so brilliant as Zack Snyder's Man of Steel 2 again
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Will he talk about how much feet are featured in the movie?
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Seriously tho if you actually believe that you may need to cleanse your palate with movies not based on superhero comics every once in a while, helps one keep perspective.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Seriously tho if you actually believe that you may need to cleanse your palate with movies not based on superhero comics every once in a while, helps one keep perspective. No thank you.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Seriously tho if you actually believe that you may need to cleanse your palate with movies not based on superhero comics every once in a while, helps one keep perspective. Well there is a power ranger movie coming.
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Willem Dafoe should play a sympathetic re-envisioning of Terra-Man.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Superman is torn about being worshipped as god. If only there was some way to talk to the crowd, let the general public, and audience, know he is just a man trying to do what's right, like any other person on Earth. Sadly, humans are not evolved enough to pick up the subtle nuances of Kryptonian brooding, their primary means of communication outside of punching.
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glitchwraith posted:If only there was some way to talk to the crowd, let the general public, and audience, know he is just a man trying to do what's right, like any other person on Earth. Sadly, humans are not evolved enough to pick up the subtle nuances of Kryptonian brooding, their primary means of communication outside of punching. Humans should have made him a hero cake.
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glitchwraith posted:If only there was some way to talk to the crowd, let the general public, and audience, know he is just a man trying to do what's right, like any other person on Earth. Sadly, humans are not evolved enough to pick up the subtle nuances of Kryptonian brooding, their primary means of communication outside of punching. If only there was a scene where he attempts to speak to the public, if only.
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glitchwraith posted:If only there was some way to talk to the crowd No hablo español
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Or maybe Eel O'Brian, the Plastic Man.
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Maybe not here, but I have seen people call it gratuitous.
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twistedmentat posted:Has anyone ever complained about the Ant-Man vs Falcon thing? What thing?
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zoux posted:What thing? Some people really resent the fact that the MCU movies take place in a unified continuity, and see the Ant-Man vs. Falcon fight in Ant-Man as a detriment to the film solely for referencing a character from Winter Soldier.
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twistedmentat posted:Has anyone ever complained about the Ant-Man vs Falcon thing? What's to complain about? It was funny and well-executed and made sense.
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MacheteZombie posted:If only there was a scene where he attempts to speak to the public, if only. Honestly, It'd be a vast improvement if Superman spoke more in general in the movie, or at least with more agency. I know he must have had more lines in the movie beyond bemoaning how misunderstood he was, but all that sticks in my memory are people monologueing at or near him while he responds with variations on frowns and deific aloofness. The movie isn't subtle about his motivations, and being familiar with the character I know what Goyer and Snyder where going for, but if this where a brand new character I'd be spending the whole movie asking why I should care about this pouty, spandex god. BravestOfTheLamps posted:No hablo español Superman, like God and Lex's abusive father, only speaks American.
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gently caress it, go full bore with that "Leto Joker is a broken Robin" and have Dafoe play the original Joker.
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jivjov posted:Some people really resent the fact that the MCU movies take place in a unified continuity, and see the Ant-Man vs. Falcon fight in Ant-Man as a detriment to the film solely for referencing a character from Winter Soldier. Oh well thats stupid as gently caress Reminds me of superhero movie haters being like "ugh all these movies are are set up for other movies and nothing else" over one line or end of credtis scenes.
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jivjov posted:Some people really resent the fact that the MCU movies take place in a unified continuity, and see the Ant-Man vs. Falcon fight in Ant-Man as a detriment to the film solely for referencing a character from Winter Soldier. This sounds like a really dumb complaint for something based off of comic books.
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I think the Falcon vs Ant Man scene is a kind of crappy bit where you can really feel the studio meddling that was so much in the foreground of the production, BUT it does set up the awesome final scene and the rest of the movie is pretty good.
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Well falcon is the lamest new avenger so I can totally see him getting stuck with guard duty while the others go do something that matters.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I think the Falcon vs Ant Man scene is a kind of crappy bit where you can really feel the studio meddling that was so much in the foreground of the production, BUT it does set up the awesome final scene and the rest of the movie is pretty good. Funnily enough the Studio didn't meddle with that scene at all. Peyton Reed posted:“Bringing Falcon into the movie really was when Paul Rudd and Adam McKay were starting the rewrites and we were talking about elements that we wanted to add. We were doing a heist movie and one of the tropes is that trial by fire where everything is organized with the heist but, oh, there’s this one piece of technology we don’t have and we have to send our hero into this situation to get it and he might not be fully prepared. It made sense to pit Scott Lang against something or somebody before he was really ready. We talked a lot about who it could be and Falcon just felt like the right thing.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:In that case, maybe someone should've meddled with it, because it doesn't feel very well-integrated into the film. Whichever one maintains your narrative.
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