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mcmagic posted:He's right. This deck is sweet and good. Did you ever tell us what deck you were brewing up?
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rabidsquid posted:I loving loved Arena when I was a kid. Garth One-Eye mother fuckers!!! Also the card you got for it was dope. As a kid I liked the followup trilogy more, with Greensleaves and her lovely woodcutter brother because she summons Force of Nature at the end of it. The card from it was way less dope though.
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Btw I'm on my phone but here is the tldr of Uncharted Realms: Jace tries to kill Lili because he's gone crazy and thinks she's responsible for Innistrad being hosed up. He loses and lili doesn't kill him because she actually likes him. Then he goes to Thraben to find Avacyn.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:17
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Thisuck posted:Did you ever tell us what deck you were brewing up? Yeah, I posted the UW Spirits list. It's good but it's not T1 right now.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:18
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Elyv posted:Btw I'm on my phone but here is the tldr of Uncharted Realms: Jace tries to kill Lili because he's gone crazy and thinks she's responsible for Innistrad being hosed up. He loses and lili doesn't kill him because she actually likes him. Then he goes to Thraben to find Avacyn. Wait what, wasn't he there beatboxing when Sorin killed Avacyn? mcmagic posted:Yeah, I posted the UW Spirits list. It's good but it's not T1 right now. Wow totally missed that, I'll have to go back and check it out. Spirits looked neat but not as meaty as some of the other decks right now.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:19
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Thisuck posted:Wait what, wasn't he there beatboxing when Sorin killed Avacyn? Hasn't happened in Uncharted Realms yet, probably at least a month away
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Apr 20, 2016 18:20
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mcmagic posted:Yeah, I posted the UW Spirits list. It's good but it's not T1 right now. Can you repost it? I'll give it a shot once I'm done with Redrazi
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Apr 20, 2016 18:28
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80s James Hetfield posted:Can you repost it? I'll give it a shot once I'm done with Redrazi 5 Island 9 Plains 3 Evolving Wilds 4 Prairie Stream 4 Port Town 2 Ojutai's Command 2 Stasis Snare 2 Declaration in Stone 4 Always Watching 3 Dragonlord Ojutai 3 Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit 4 Spectral Shepherd 4 Bygone Bishop 4 Rattlechains 4 Topplegeist 3 Negate SB: 1 Negate SB: 4 Surge of Righteousness SB: 1 Stasis Snare SB: 2 Dispel SB: 4 Reflector Mage SB: 1 Hidden Dragonslayer SB: 2 Declaration in Stone
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Apr 20, 2016 18:30
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Zoness posted:wish it were true XOR useful instead I don't know, he said "either true OR useful" I think that implies it's one or the other, but not both.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:30
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Not unless you're in a formal logic class or programming.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:36
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Would a 3WW 4/4 Flash, flying, vigilance with no other text be standard playable today? No because no one wants to flash in a Serra angel.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:36
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Oldsrocket_27 posted:Creatureless... I'm intrigued. Got a list?
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Apr 20, 2016 18:37
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Pyronic posted:you misunderstand, I'm not a customer I help run the place and i dont really want to rip kids off. Buylists are inherently a rip off because there needs to be a large enough gap between what you pay and what it's worth to make it worth your time/money as a business. If other stores pay a similar amount then don't worry about it. If you aren't paying rent on the building then it's not your place to decide what a fair price is.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:37
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Skyl3lazer posted:I don't know, he said "either true OR useful" I think that implies it's one or the other, but not both. It should and I would hold BenS to the highest standards of propositional logic but I feel like Luis would be way 'luis'-er about it. 
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Apr 20, 2016 18:38
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Would a 3WW 4/4 Flash, flying, vigilance with no other text be standard playable today? It 100% would be.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:41
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odiv posted:Not unless you're in a formal logic class or programming. If I say I want either a red balloon or a blue balloon I'm going to be disappointed in a purple one.
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Apr 20, 2016 18:48
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Some judges are suing Wizards of the Coast, claiming that Magic judges are employees.quote:Renton, WA—A handful of individuals who have been Magic judges for many years recently brought two lawsuits against Wizards of the Coast alleging that participating in the Magic community as a judge equates to employment with Wizards. These lawsuits are meritless. Are lawsuits public information? Can we read them somewhere?
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Apr 20, 2016 19:16
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BJPaskoff posted:Some judges are suing Wizards of the Coast, claiming that Magic judges are employees. https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/3:2016cv01924/297663 <-- You need PACER but it's there e; https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-r_DZZo06cjdWxnejVZbDFreTQ/view e2;  Basically they're saying that since WotC requires standards of judges that includes protecting and promoting their IP, they count as employees of WotC. Skyl3lazer fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Apr 20, 2016 19:19
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Lol keep being used and abused as a judge for WOTC. quote:Magic: The Gathering is fortunate to have the greatest community in gaming. Fans choose to become judges out of a sincere love of the game and as a way to enjoy their favorite hobby. They ensure events are fair and fun, and we appreciate everything they do. 
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Apr 20, 2016 19:24
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BJPaskoff posted:Some judges are suing Wizards of the Coast, claiming that Magic judges are employees. Its funny how many people assume you can volunteer your time for a for profit company. Skyl3lazer posted:
And that will be the entire suit in a nutshell. I wouldn't want to argue how a company can require someone to be from a certain group for events and then pretend they don't control that group.
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Apr 20, 2016 19:24
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So assuming the judges win their lawsuit....which I truly believe they should, I wonder what the fall out of that will be?
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Apr 20, 2016 19:26
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Madmarker posted:So assuming the judges win their lawsuit....which I truly believe they should, I wonder what the fall out of that will be? Fewer events and/or more expensive events.
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Apr 20, 2016 19:28
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Madmarker posted:So assuming the judges win their lawsuit....which I truly believe they should, I wonder what the fall out of that will be? Because this is WOTC, they will do something to lose massive profits instead of just losing a small cut of profits.
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Sickening posted:Its funny how many people assume you can volunteer your time for a for profit company.  eek I can't even really agree that this lawsuit is spurious, the judges actually have a nonzero chance of winning this if it actually goes to trial (which it probably won't) Skyl3lazer fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Apr 20, 2016 19:29
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I mean a company can't set up a non-profit company to staff their for profit company. I understand that analogy doesn't quite fit this situation but its in the same ballpark.
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Apr 20, 2016 19:32
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Skyl3lazer posted:
There's a case to be made that they're contractors, specifically because wizards does not set the hours the judges have to work, or where, or in what sort of attire, which is one of the litmus tests of employee vs. contract worker. However their tasks are specifically set by wizards and I assume wizards sets rules and regs for the judges, both of which land on the "employee" side of employee vs. contract. I hope wizards gets boned on this because unfair labor practice is a pet peeve of mine, and I especially hate how they rely on the goodwill of the players without ever throwing much of a bone to us that doesn't involve their profits.
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jassi007 posted:I know its really obscure but there has to be some place they can throw in a One-Eye planeswalker. Oor-Tael 4lyfe! Uh Ajani already exists?
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Apr 20, 2016 19:40
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Lawnie posted:I hope wizards gets boned on this because unfair labor practice is a pet peeve of mine, and I especially hate how they rely on the goodwill of the players without ever throwing much of a bone to us that doesn't involve their profits.  See, they already took away our player rewards so they can't do that if this ends up going anywhere. Watch them revoke FNM promos. 
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Apr 20, 2016 19:46
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Lawnie posted:There's a case to be made that they're contractors, specifically because wizards does not set the hours the judges have to work, or where, or in what sort of attire, which is one of the litmus tests of employee vs. contract worker. However their tasks are specifically set by wizards and I assume wizards sets rules and regs for the judges, both of which land on the "employee" side of employee vs. contract. I'm pretty sure that judges do have a dress code.
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Some Numbers posted:I'm pretty sure that judges do have a dress code. Lmao, that's one of the example "requirements set by company that constitute an employment agreement." Also, is the dress code "your shirt must have been washed in the last 2 weeks. Your pants may have no more than 3 unexplained stains in the crotch area?"
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Lawnie posted:Lmao, that's one of the example "requirements set by company that constitute an employment agreement." Also, is the dress code "your shirt must have been washed in the last 2 weeks. Your pants may have no more than 3 unexplained stains in the crotch area?" http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/judge-uniform-policy Seems like that is the example you were mentioning. It is a funny article though and I am sure it has been through quite a few edits. Some parts try to make it appear that the TO decides but others make it seem like they are calling the shots. WOTC is a really funny company. 
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Skyl3lazer posted:
I'm not 100% on the case. I agree judges should be more fairly compensated for their time in larger events, but I would disagree that they are employees. Contractors of the companies running the events for sure since they are required to be there at certain times. Is the DCI nonprofit? WotC can point to the fact that judges are technically certified and events are sanctioned by the DCI and not specifically by a subsidiary of Hasbro. Whatever I don't mind paying an extra 5 bucks for the one GP I go to every two years if judges get paid a fair amount of stuff. At my LGS the game coordinator is the judge and is an employee of the store. So that argument there is out the window.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:23
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"But you see we pay them in foils"
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Errant Gin Monks posted:I'm not 100% on the case. I agree judges should be more fairly compensated for their time in larger events, but I would disagree that they are employees. Contractors of the companies running the events for sure since they are required to be there at certain times. WOTC has direct control over who can be a TO and who can be Judge right?
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Is the DCI nonprofit? WotC can point to the fact that judges are technically certified and events are sanctioned by the DCI and not specifically by a subsidiary of Hasbro. The DCI is a Wizards of the Coast subsidiary... Which in turn is a subsidiary of Hasbro.
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Mikujin posted:The DCI is a Wizards of the Coast subsidiary... Which in turn is a subsidiary of Hasbro. Good enough then, I hope the judges win.
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Mikujin posted:The DCI is a Wizards of the Coast subsidiary... Which in turn is a subsidiary of Hasbro. They aren't really a subsidiary... I doubt the DCI has any revenue. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Skyl3lazer posted:I don't know, he said "either true OR useful" I think that implies it's one or the other, but not both. I love that they have determined that making fun of Cheon is useful.
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mcmagic posted:They aren't really a subsidiary... I doubt the DCI has any revenue.
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