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Dave_Indeed posted:Why are vikings such massive pussies these days? Are they just tired of loving poo poo up? The real viking are danes the ones in norway are the turd farmers who got left behind
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Absolute Lithops posted:In practice he'll have a life sentence. After 21 years, they'll "review his case" every year or so and always conclude that he should stay in prison. Yah, prisoners considered especially dangerous can get this extra clause on their sentence which works pretty much like that, with periodic reviews to see if it's reasonable to let them out yet. In this dickhead's case it's going to be "what, is it that time again already? ...well, gently caress that guy for another couple of years, next order of business?"
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Apr 20, 2016 21:24
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someone took PC master race a bit too far
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Apr 20, 2016 21:27
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ArbitraryC posted:It sounds like mostly the inhumane treatment stuff referred to what he claimed to be excessive searches of his person and excessive restraints when moving from cell to cell and the courts more or less agree that if there isn't a reason to put handcuffs and search him constantly then they shouldn't be doing it just to remind him he's a second class citizen. Which honestly seems okay to me if he's been a cooperative prisoner and there's no real evidence he plans on going out in a blaze of glory fighting the guards. Counterpoint: he massacred 77 people.
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Apr 20, 2016 21:32
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Counterpoint: he massacred 77 people. Quickly, suspend liberalism and due process!!
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Apr 20, 2016 21:34
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They should just force all longterm prisoners to play WoW all day. They could have an all-con raiding guild
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Apr 20, 2016 21:35
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Svartvit posted:Quickly, suspend liberalism and due process!! Acceptable in some situations imo
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Apr 20, 2016 21:38
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You will notice that the rear end in a top hat is in fact being treated more or less according to due process, having the details of his incarceration looked at and so forth. As opposed to being, I dunno, hit over the head with a shovel and dumped in the marshes or something.
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Apr 20, 2016 21:42
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prisoners don't have the same rights as regular citizens? hosed up if true.
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Apr 20, 2016 21:43
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I'm sure Norwegians are just stumbling over themselves to import America's incredibly effective and not at all broken criminal justice system, thanks for the hot tips fellow something awful dot com posters.
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Apr 20, 2016 21:46
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they should let him out imo
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Apr 20, 2016 21:47
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Svartvit posted:Quickly, suspend liberalism and due process!! This argument really rings hollow when the guy you're so nobly sticking up for killed dozens of people because he's a hateful fascist.
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Apr 20, 2016 21:48
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:This argument really rings hollow when the guy you're so nobly sticking up for killed dozens of people because he's a hateful fascist. uuuh, but if youd read my point??
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Apr 20, 2016 21:49
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Dr Cheeto posted:I'm sure Norwegians are just stumbling over themselves to import America's incredibly effective and not at all broken criminal justice system, thanks for the hot tips fellow something awful dot com posters. Theres a difference between thinking americas justice system is good and thinking you should be killed if you murder an islandful of kids
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Apr 20, 2016 21:51
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:This argument really rings hollow when the guy you're so nobly sticking up for killed dozens of people because he's a hateful fascist. I think the argument all these dirty hippies are making is that you shouldn't sink to his level. I'm of the opinion that if there is no question of guilt, and he is never going to get out anyway, he should probably be put to death. He is a danger to society, and a drain on the resources, and no benefit is gained by his continued existence. If there is a chance of him ever walking free in the future, then his current conditions aren't too bad.
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RFC2324 posted:I think the argument all these dirty hippies are making is that you shouldn't sink to his level. liberals get to feel good about the fact that he's alive tho so he should live!!!!!
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Apr 20, 2016 22:12
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The fact is unleashing my reptile brain on this dude does not make me as bad as him because I am not unleashing my reptile brain on 77 innocent children. e: my human brain tells me that and my mammal brain concurs.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:This argument really rings hollow when the guy you're so nobly sticking up for killed dozens of people because he's a hateful fascist. I'm sticking up for the concept of due process and the democratic regime. I don't believe we should have an on/off button for that.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:16
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they should make it a monkey's paw style thing and give him an xbox one 
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Bro Dad posted:they should make it a monkey's paw style thing and give him an xbox one Now THAT is what I call a violation of human rights!
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Apr 20, 2016 22:20
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If you actually do the math it's generally more costly to perform an execution, not even getting into the question of if it's ethical or should we entrust a demonstrably fallible justice system with the power to kill, or what psychological hazards exist for the staff performing the execution. It might bother you that a cold-blooded murderer like Brevik is lounging in a dorm room playing Crazy Taxi but I guess you should take joy in the fact that he'll live and die under lock and key and constant surveillance and is no longer a threat to anyone.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:25
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What's the going rate for a new 3DS in Norway, how many children do I have to kill? 
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Apr 20, 2016 22:25
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RFC2324 posted:I'm of the opinion that if there is no question of guilt, and he is never going to get out anyway, he should probably be put to death. Eh. Not a power the state should be allowed to have. Even if you philosophically grant that there are some cases where putting a prisoner to death would be morally justified beyond a doubt, such cases are pretty loving rare in the first place and the utility value of letting such worst-case statistical outliers define policy is questionable. Dude does not represent an actual danger to society and it's not exactly as if he has a bunch of followers working to spring him from prison and having him lead some kind of revolution or something. I have to be honest, I hate the fucker and my reptile brain wouldn't mind choking the life from him, but... my higher-order brain would rather have a historian's revenge; let him become an obscure and irrelevant footnote, let him live long enough to see that happen.
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Dr Cheeto posted:If you actually do the math it's generally more costly to perform an execution, not even getting into the question of if it's ethical or should we entrust a demonstrably fallible justice system with the power to kill, or what psychological hazards exist for the staff performing the execution. Crazy Taxi? If he has a Dreamcast I'm gonna lose my poo poo.
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Dr Cheeto posted:If you actually do the math it's generally more costly to perform an execution, not even getting into the question of if it's ethical or should we entrust a demonstrably fallible justice system with the power to kill, or what psychological hazards exist for the staff performing the execution. Doesn't actually bother me, I just see it as wasteful. From everything I have seen and heard, the reason its usually more expensive to execute someone is the appeals process, since most systems automatically appeal the sentence over and over until every appeal is exhausted(which is generally a good thing). In cases like this, where the accused is actively proud of being a mass murderer, and all evidence points to it clearly being him, I don't know that this should be an issue. As for the psychological damage, I can see 2 routes. The old firing squad technique(20 guys shooting, most have blanks so no one actually knows who killed him), or just hire a Texan executioner(I think we still have one or 2) who has the job because it allows him to live out his murder fantasies legally, without hurting innocents. Executions should be vanishingly rare, but there ARE cases where it is warranted, and this is one, imo.
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Anyone actually read the article yet?
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bluewedge posted:they should let him out imo Yeah but they should let everybody know when and where he's being released.
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RFC2324 posted:Executions should be vanishingly rare, but there ARE cases where it is warranted, and this is one, imo. If cases where they are warranted are vanishingly rare, why even have executions? Why build that potential for egregious error into the system? What do we lose letting a vanishingly small number of very sick people die in dorm rooms, and what would we gain by hastening the process?
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The most likely scenario where this rear end in a top hat is released is if he becomes old and decrepit enough to be incapable of being any kind of threat. Straight from the prison to the nursing home, more or less.
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Dr Cheeto posted:If cases where they are warranted are vanishingly rare, why even have executions? Why build that potential for egregious error into the system? Also consider what kind of incompetent rear end-clowns we can sometimes have in charge of the justice department and whatnot. Better to just not have this in the toolbox.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:41
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This thread can only end with a goon version of The Bet. Don't disappoint.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:44
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Give him to Isis imo, the only condition is they have to put what they do with him on YouTube
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Apr 20, 2016 22:46
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*desires upgrade from lovely New York apartment, moves to Norway and kills a bunch of people.*
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:*desires upgrade from lovely New York apartment, moves to Norway and kills a bunch of people.* It might seem like an upgrade but you won't be smiling when they give you the Nintendo 3DS instead of the New Nintendo 3DS.
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QUEEN CAUCUS posted:What's the going rate for a new 3DS in Norway, how many children do I have to kill? 2.5
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Apr 20, 2016 22:57
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The actual case was for solitary confinement, which iirc was more de facto than a literal solitary cell. I can't wait till he gets to 'mingle' with the other prisoners 
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itt: retards appease their lizard brains by wishing death upon someone and ignore logic then again, that's pretty much every right-wing belief 
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I feel like this isnt helping his rehabilitation
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video games just encourage more violence
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