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a cop posted:Is anyone up to NG+ ? Some of the item drops are "upgraded" like finding titanite chunks whered youd find large shards but that seems to be about it. Nothing actually new.
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Internet Kraken posted:The baby is the third prince of Lothric, and was magically engineered by Ocieros to be as close to the dragons as possible. Oceiros had become obsessed with their dragonblood and creating a worthy heir of the throne. He found out about Seathe, become totally obsessed with him, and well that's why he ended up turning into that dragon monstrosity. He wants Ocelot to claim the throne with his super dragonblood when he grows older, but you put a stop to that. I assumed that Ocelotte could turn invisible since he was (sorta) a half-dragon, just like Priscilla, who could also turn invisible. Maybe it's just a thing half-dragons can do? As far as the other spoiler thing people have been talking about, it's not like this is the first time it's happened, sort of. The Kiln of the First Flame is way different between DaS1 and DaS2, but reverts back to its DaS1 look for DaS3. It seems fitting with the themes of the series for there to be multiple firelinks, and multiple kilns. On a third spoilery note, I'm not really sure what to make of the idea, and it's still sorta half-formed, but is the PC a lord of cinder? You wake up with the bell designed to wake the lords up and call them to their thrones, and the only beings in the game who get the on-fire ember effect are you and the lord bosses, iirc. Also worth noting are that you only hollow if you want to, suggesting you have something staving off the dark inside you--either the blessing of the king from DaS2, or possibly a fragment of the first flame? I love that this game is actually sort of comprehensible. DaS1 was completely incoherent without reading both Frampt's and Kaathe's missable dialogue, and DaS2 was even worse. This game feels more like DeS, where the plot is obscured but not hidden, if that makes sense, and I'm loving it.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:33
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Some of the item drops are "upgraded" like finding titanite chunks whered youd find large shards but that seems to be about it. Nothing actually new. Dang. I really missed that aspect of DS2 in Bloodborne. Even the odd red phantom was enough to make you feel like you could encounter something new around any corner, even if they were few and far between.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:33
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Apr 21, 2016 08:35
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I didn't find this in NG because I had finished the final cutscene before I did unattended graves, but I love that after you give the Firekeeper eyes, Lord BossSoul casually mentions that he chose his own path of his own desire and accord, and you should do the same, especially if you're planning on being an rear end in a top hat and stealing the fire for yourself. *wink*
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Apr 21, 2016 08:35
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Your Computer posted:Really? I suppose I could respec and put some points into Vigor (it's usually the last stat I put points into, if ever), which could balance it out. I was thinking more in terms on "bosses and enemies are already two-shotting me in NG, how fast will I die in NG+" but I guess that's very much my own fault yea. most of the difficulty comes from not knowing how to handle a given situation, so once you know you're gonna do a lot better. again, I haven't done ng+ in this game, but I have in all the others and it's a cake walk compared to your first run. the older games moreso because the enemies did not scale even close to enough, so you'd just run around killing the trash mobs in one hit for a while until the game caught back up. bloodborne did ng+ the best, tho it didn't do the unique black phantom enemies that the previous games did for subsequent runs. an endgame character in bloodborne will die about as fast in central yharnam, the first area, as they would in ng when they first ran through the area. this is true in every area and against every boss. not putting points into health will obviously get you killed no matter what, so maybe you should consider actually investing in the "don't die" stat 
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Apr 21, 2016 08:35
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Yeah this happened to me as well. It was pretty funny. What's not funny is that grab working properly and killing you. The hippo shoves you into its chest and you get digested 
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Apr 21, 2016 08:41
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I just made it through High Lord Wolnir, and got him on my first try. Looking at some videos online and then helping people out with co-op, that fight seems really weird. I only ever noticed one summoned skeleton during my fight (because he killed the rest of them), and I don't think he even ever pulled his sword. I did beat him pretty quickly, which might have prevented him from going through his whole routine. The only way I could see that fight being especially difficult is if you are low level. A couple hosts I was helping did die because they didn't stay away from the cloud.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:42
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Anyone having trouble with sliding phantoms? Every time i invade or get invaded they're just sliding and i get hit without any animations.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:42
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Whix posted:Anyone having trouble with sliding phantoms? Every time i invade or get invaded they're just sliding and i get hit without any animations. Not constantly, but I have had it happen quite a bit. Kinda sucks not being able to see when people are swinging at you... On the other hand though if you're fighting a boss in someone's world and they're sliding around, you can't actually get hit by the boss, you can just sit there and pummel them into the floor with impunity.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:47
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Apr 21, 2016 08:48
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Manatee Cannon posted:yea. most of the difficulty comes from not knowing how to handle a given situation, so once you know you're gonna do a lot better. again, I haven't done ng+ in this game, but I have in all the others and it's a cake walk compared to your first run. the older games moreso because the enemies did not scale even close to enough, so you'd just run around killing the trash mobs in one hit for a while until the game caught back up. bloodborne did ng+ the best, tho it didn't do the unique black phantom enemies that the previous games did for subsequent runs. an endgame character in bloodborne will die about as fast in central yharnam, the first area, as they would in ng when they first ran through the area. this is true in every area and against every boss. not putting points into health will obviously get you killed no matter what, so maybe you should consider actually investing in the "don't die" stat They dropped ADP, dodging doesn't require stats anymore  It's true that knowing the situation makes things a lot easier, I've got several hundred hours in DS1+2 of weird gimmick runs but I think I've only done NG+ in either game like... once. It's mostly because I tailor my characters (from the name to the character creator, to the fashion souls and the build) around a certain gimmick, and having to play through NG first just to be able to begin that gimmick feels kinda dumb. Not like it matters anyway, I'll probably eventually do the same thing I did in DS2 which is to just use Cheat Engine to get the gimmick run going It let me do stuff like "only heal from the Eleum Loyce R2" and various dumb cosplay runs.
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Internet Kraken posted:The baby is the third prince of Lothric, and was magically engineered by Ocieros to be as close to the dragons as possible. Oceiros had become obsessed with their dragonblood and creating a worthy heir of the throne. He found out about Seathe, become totally obsessed with him, and well that's why he ended up turning into that dragon monstrosity. He wants Ocelot to claim the throne with his super dragonblood when he grows older, but you put a stop to that. Ocelette is very dead and has probably been so for quite some time. Oceiros has lost completely lost his marbles from being consumed by his obsession with dragonblood (get it, thematic naming). Notice how he holds his arm though in the first half of the fight? He's so far gone he still thinks Ocelotte is with him and he's cradling his baby son close to him so nobody else will take him. Dark Souls is a happy series.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:49
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Ocelette is very dead and has probably been so for quite some time. Oceiros has lost completely lost his marbles from being consumed by his obsession with dragonblood (get it, thematic naming). Notice how he holds his arm though in the first half of the fight? He's so far gone he still thinks Ocelotte is with him and he's cradling his baby son close to him so nobody else will take him. I mean, that's the obvious solution, and maybe (probably) the right one, but then what's up with the crying?
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Apr 21, 2016 08:52
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I forget, this is SA, more context is needed rather than all-caps. I made a video where I feed phantoms to lizards. took me 6 hours to edit, hope you all like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENt4XR-e8o
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Apr 21, 2016 08:54
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Subhazard posted:I forget, this is SA, more context is needed rather than all-caps. You'd figure they would have been more appreciative of your efforts. Raising pets is rough
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Apr 21, 2016 08:56
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Section Z posted:You'd figure they would have been more appreciative of your efforts. Raising pets is rough It's a full time job. Love em to death though.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:57
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Some of the item drops are "upgraded" like finding titanite chunks whered youd find large shards but that seems to be about it. Nothing actually new. There are also some upgraded rings hidden around in new spots (and you have to find them all for the trophy!) but no new enemy placements or anything. More or less all of the soul items are buffed up to be better than anything you find in NG
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Apr 21, 2016 08:57
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Subhazard posted:I forget, this is SA, more context is needed rather than all-caps. This is what the "Point down" gesture was made for 
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Apr 21, 2016 08:58
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cheetah7071 posted:I mean, that's the obvious solution, and maybe (probably) the right one, but then what's up with the crying? You got me on that one. I don't have a good explanation beyond "hey it was just part of the music for atmosphere don't read into it". Well, I have one idea but it's really far-fetched and probably way too analytical. Maybe Oceiros is subconsciously throwing out sound with sorcery because he's so deeply delusional about his kid being alive and whats going on. Throwing sound is a really simple sorcery and all. I suppose it's possible to go either direction with this one really, but I personally don't really buy the baby was totally there and just invisible the entire time thing.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:58
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Your Computer posted:This is what the "Point down" gesture was made for like, comment, subscribe, all that banal poo poo. Anywhere else I should post this?
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Apr 21, 2016 09:00
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Invasions attempted: 15+ Invasions won: 1 I am the PvP master.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:02
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I'm listening through the soundtrack and I just want to remind everyone how loving great Nameless King's theme is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajq6MFS_ysM It goes full Castlevania at around 1:00. Truly the most anime of themes for the most anime of bosses.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:07
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Curious about how NG+ works. I kinda wanna rush the final boss and see this ending I got lined up but I got so much more to do despite being at the (apparent) home stretch. Is it like 2 where you see the ending and it just randomly puts you at a bonfire saying "Hey champ go on forward any time" or is it more Bloodborne where you finish the game and it auto kicks you to NG+
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Apr 21, 2016 09:08
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^^^^^ Don't worry, it's like 2.cheetah7071 posted:On a third spoilery note, I'm not really sure what to make of the idea, and it's still sorta half-formed, but is the PC a lord of cinder? You wake up with the bell designed to wake the lords up and call them to their thrones, and the only beings in the game who get the on-fire ember effect are you and the lord bosses, iirc. Also worth noting are that you only hollow if you want to, suggesting you have something staving off the dark inside you--either the blessing of the king from DaS2, or possibly a fragment of the first flame? The bell wakes unkindled as well as lords of cinder, and you're not the only one with the ember effect. What makes someone a lord of cinder is linking the fire, so you're not one yet but you're pretty close.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:09
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Subhazard posted:I forget, this is SA, more context is needed rather than all-caps. Totally loved this after I spent forever trying to remember where that music is from. For a second I thought it was Cyborg Justice and you woulda gotten some serious cred.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:10
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Rolo posted:Totally loved this after I spent forever trying to remember where that music is from. For a second I thought it was Cyborg Justice and you woulda gotten some serious cred. sonic spinball haha
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Apr 21, 2016 09:10
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Your Computer posted:I'm listening through the soundtrack and I just want to remind everyone how loving great Nameless King's theme is: I feel like Bloodborne has the most consistently good soundtrack of the series but DS3 has some serious high notes. The Princes fight music is phenomenal.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:10
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Curious about how NG+ works. I kinda wanna rush the final boss and see this ending I got lined up but I got so much more to do despite being at the (apparent) home stretch. It's like 2. They ask you "wanna go to NG+ immediately or wait?" and you just pick "uh imma do it later", then do whatever you want. You can go to NG+ from the bonfire in Firelink whenever you want after that.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:11
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Something that's probably super obvious but I haven't seen anyone mention (general gameplay thing, not a story/boss spoiler): The chest chain thing from DS2 still holds true. Curled in a circle means it's safe, straighter means it's a mimic. Of course, they're basically all mimics, so.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:16
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Extortionist posted:Something that's probably super obvious but I haven't seen anyone mention (general gameplay thing, not a story/boss spoiler): Seriously, what's with the Mimic ratio in this game. I feel like there's 1 chest for every 5 mimics
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Apr 21, 2016 09:18
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Seriously, what's with the Mimic ratio in this game. I feel like there's 1 chest for every 5 mimics Also literally the first chest is a mimic, which kinda defeats the point.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:19
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RatHat posted:Also literally the first chest is a mimic, which kinda defeats the point. I'm getting Doom 3 closet imp flashbacks.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:22
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technically the first chest is in firelink if you do the tree jump trick but yea the amount of mimics is really weird.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:24
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Getting a mimic and a giant fire demon to kill each other was the highlight of my yesterday. They literally got each other's health bars down to nothing and the demon won by a scratch.
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I'm leaning towards uchi vs black blade for bleed weapon of choice. Thoughts? I'm assuming Black Blade is best until those crazy twin blades come into play. Don;t think I have access to those yet though
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Apr 21, 2016 09:29
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm leaning towards uchi vs black blade for bleed weapon of choice. Thoughts? I'm assuming Black Blade is best until those crazy twin blades come into play. Don;t think I have access to those yet though I mean sure, if you wanna be a weeab
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Apr 21, 2016 09:30
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Rolo posted:Totally loved this after I spent forever trying to remember where that music is from. For a second I thought it was Cyborg Justice and you woulda gotten some serious cred. Oh my loving god someone else remembers that game. It would have been the best thing ever if, you know, it had more variety than 2 enemies, repeat until boss, repeat until sudden 2D plane fight  DS3 DCL let me tear the legs off an enemy and put them on TIA. RatHat posted:Also literally the first chest is a mimic, which kinda defeats the point. It wasn't for me, but that may be my wildly indecisive and unintutive choices of direction at play  Nice of them to put it in a place where you can see it from complete safety though.
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Apr 21, 2016 09:32
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Being a mound-maker is hilarious. When am I gonna betray you? Will I? Will I fight that Watchdog of Farron, or help him? Will I charged-R2 you when you're fighting that mob?! WHO KNOWS?! ~mad phantom~
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TheHoosier posted:Being a mound-maker is hilarious. When am I gonna betray you? Will I? Will I fight that Watchdog of Farron, or help him? Will I charged-R2 you when you're fighting that mob?! WHO KNOWS?! No one is safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENt4XR-e8o
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