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Chokes McGee posted:Uh. All of the drivers are women with "caregiver" backgrounds. Also, despite the failure of Shuddle, there are at least two other startups with the same business model, one is called HopSkipDrive. v Boost, I believe. moller fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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Chokes McGee posted:Uh.
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Apr 19, 2016 22:01
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Probably screened as well as most babysitters/nannies.
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Apr 19, 2016 22:17
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All those startups are one just pedo away from the shitstorm to end all shitstorms, imo.
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Baby Babbeh posted:All those startups are one just pedo away from the shitstorm to end all shitstorms, imo. We will just have to catch them with the Predatr app.
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Baby Babbeh posted:All those startups are one just pedo away from the shitstorm to end all shitstorms, imo. Why haven't home-based daycare or children's sports leagues suffered that fate?
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Apr 19, 2016 22:24
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They probably have, but the addition of technology makes the story scarier so the media didn't cover it the way they will when "an app for strangers to pick up your kids in their car" results in molestation.
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Subjunctive posted:Why haven't home-based daycare or children's sports leagues suffered that fate? Note also that the former Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, just pled guilty to molesting children on the wrestling team he coached. More and more, these crimes are being publicly reported and prosecuted. Many, sadly not all, youth organizations now do a background check on anybody working with children; same for daycare.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial Sure, except McMartin a) was bullshit, and b) was not home-based, and c) didn't cause condemnation of the whole industry. Similarly, I don't think we'll see the end of wrestling teams, or a shitstorm directed at other wrestling programs. (Which is why I mentioned children's sports.)
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Subjunctive posted:Why haven't home-based daycare or children's sports leagues suffered that fate? Those things have been around forever. When the internet came around a poo poo load of people just automatically assumed it was full to bursting with predators and pedophiles just waiting to steal your kid. The way people talked about it you'd think that was the sole purpose of the internet. It was a new thing these people didn't understand so they assumed the worst. Granted daycare and children's sports leagues are also generally part of the community and run by people you know. You have no idea how far that can get people. "I don't believe Charlie McCoachersonne can possibly be a molester. Why he's been an upstanding member of the community as long as he's been alive. Been coaching for 30 years, he has, and nobody comes forward until now? Come on. My dad grew up with his dad, in fact. Coaches all the way back! They traced their ancestry to a 15th century coach. Why it's in their blood!" Which is of course another difference; a story on the internet about somebody you've never met is easier to believe than it turning out that somebody you personally know and have known for a long time did something bad. This is especially true if that person has been repeatedly doing that bad thing for decades.
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Subjunctive posted:Sure, except McMartin a) was bullshit, and b) was not home-based, and c) didn't cause condemnation of the whole industry. Similarly, I don't think we'll see the end of wrestling teams, or a shitstorm directed at other wrestling programs. (Which is why I mentioned children's sports.)
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I was talking about whether there'd been shitstorms, not whether there'd been justified shitstorms. Any business that's dealing with children, paid or otherwise (the business, not the children) is trying to deal with these problems. You have to take liability insurance, and to do that, you have to convince the paranoid insurance company that you won't wind up costing them money. I sure know that if my plan is to abduct children, the best way to go about it is to do it via a service that requires me to submit my name, my place of residence, all details on my vehicle, a background check, and a documented itinerary of every single moment of contact I have with children.
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Subjunctive posted:Why haven't home-based daycare or children's sports leagues suffered that fate? Their fate has been increased screening/regulation, which is a good and fine thing that isn't actually a death knell for something that isn't Disruptive.
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A big flaming stink posted:I sure know that if my plan is to abduct children, the best way to go about it is to do it via a service that requires me to submit my name, my place of residence, all details on my vehicle, a background check, and a documented itinerary of every single moment of contact I have with children. Worked for Second Mile, until it didn't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Mile It's way easier to just have a huge churn of kids coming and going than stealing anyone.
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Your kid is safer with a stranger than an acquaintance.
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cowofwar posted:Your kid is safer with a stranger than an acquaintance. Per unit time?
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Subjunctive posted:Per unit time?
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cowofwar posted:Effectively all people will act benevolently towards a child, it's inborn. Childfree don't, though they'd rather distance themselves from children entirely.
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Unguided posted:Childfree don't, though they'd rather distance themselves from children entirely.
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cheese posted:What? Even childless people will act generally benevolently toward children. Childfree are people who define themselves as being too intelligent to have children. Not people who are merely childless. Their rants are some of the most embarrassing saddest things I've ever read.
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cheese posted:What? Even childless people will act generally benevolently toward children.
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cheese posted:What? Even childless people will act generally benevolently toward children. Toward children, yes, but not toward crotchspawn.
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 Well I'll be damned, learn something new every day. Still, I have to think even people who actively don't want children and look down on those who have them are unlikely to mistreat them.
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Cicero posted:Pretty sure he means this kind of person: https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree For all cases of where kind behavior is assumed or considered instinctual in humans, you can make an exception from Reddit.
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What is it about Reddit that takes any remotely conceivable concept that people could be interested in and turns it into a circle jerk over who can be the most awful human?
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Baby Babbeh posted:What is it about Reddit that takes any remotely conceivable concept that people could be interested in and turns it into a circle jerk over who can be the most awful human? I was curious, the answer lies in two graphs from a reddit user demographic survey (http://www.dailydot.com/society/reddit-survey-demographics/) :  
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Baby Babbeh posted:What is it about Reddit that takes any remotely conceivable concept that people could be interested in and turns it into a circle jerk over who can be the most awful human?
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The reddit stuff is upvotes (and downvotes to a lesser extent.) When you're already part of a small group (childfree, bronies, Bernouts for Trump etc.) and saying shocking stuff gets you upvotes and saying boring stuff doesn't, shocking becomes the new normal. Then you start getting downvotes for being boring and to get upvotes you've got to be even more shocking. Vicious cycle. It's why Disqus got rid of downvotes.
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To be fair though this batshit crazy pre existed Reddit. Google "childefreehc" for the hardcore group that kicked out a member who accidentally got pregnant and didn't immediately get an abortion. Honestly that being like ten years ago now a documentary on her life would be fascinating in a train wreck way.
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I think we can all agree that people who are physically capable of but choose not to have children should be crucified in a literal sense.
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Radbot posted:I think we can all agree that people who are physically capable of but choose not to have children should be crucified in a literal sense. agreed. do your duty, citizen. In other news, Uber settled two of the big class action suits against it for a total of 84 million. They were also fined a few mil for operating in PA without appropriate licenses. I think these lawsuits only apply to CA and MA, so I imagine other states may jump in on the fun.
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Hughlander posted:To be fair though this batshit crazy pre existed Reddit. Google "childefreehc" for the hardcore group that kicked out a member who accidentally got pregnant and didn't immediately get an abortion. Honestly that being like ten years ago now a documentary on her life would be fascinating in a train wreck way. I just googled that and got zero results.
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a foolish pianist posted:Startup snark aside, autonomous vehicles are going to be huge in the next decade. That sounds like a decent investment in a sort of first-pass robocar company. From a while back, just catching up. But I wanted to point out how funny it was to have the Nest smoke-detector failure video on one page, and then on the next page someone says with all seriousness that robot cars will be huge in the coming years. We can't even program software to know when a house is on fire or to know when a user is desperately trying to turn off its screeching alarms; yet surely the automated car is right around the corner!
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Eletriarnation posted:I just googled that and got zero results. It was a live journal which apparently is hard to find now... http://thenotmom.com/when-i-thought-you-were-childfree-feels-like-betrayal/ discusses it.
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A Man With A Plan posted:agreed. do your duty, citizen.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Uber is going to fight to (somebody's) death to keep from classifying drivers as employees, because if they do, their "disruptive" buisiness model collapses. They did have a good run though on convincing the world that tax fraud and employee code violations was innovative though.
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