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This is new Gay thread since the last one was no longer relevant. And mostly centered around hating Jivjov. This thread will focus on the entirety of the LGBT community and their rights around the globe. And as far as I can tell not much has changed in the past month anywhere but America, with a slew of new Republican led so-called Bathroom Bills aimed at the Trans community. So I suppose we should start with that. e: The most recent things would I guess be AFA's Target boycott declaration, and Drumpf's conservative faux pas in saying that people should use whichever toilet they feel comfortable in. e2: Truth be told things have sort of reached a bit of a plateau regarding global LGBT rights in 2016. Outside of Estonia and a single Mexican state (Jalisca) marriage rights haven't really progressed any farther. Schizotek fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Apr 23, 2016 |
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I'll just leave this here: https://community.pflag.org/document.doc?id=139
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 05:46 |
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Still don't have gender identity in the Human Rights Act in New Zealand. A Crown Law opinion that said it was covered under sex has been around for a while and resulted in it not be explicitly included, despite not being tested in the courts. That changed in the last few days. http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/31/article_18200.php quote:The implication appears to be that statutory authority has been granted to the Crown Law Office opinion in this context, and that transgendered people are protected from employment discrimination under the Employment Relations Act and Human Rights Act, while transitioning at work. Congratulations, Dakota, you are a pioneer for transgender rights in this country and many transpeople will be grateful for your courage and determination in this context. Moreover, if this applies to employment discrimination, it may also apply to accomodation and service provider discrimination as well.
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 09:16 |
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One of my friends came out to Obama at a townhall event in London. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX8H2IvK1BI
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 19:05 |
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TinTower posted:One of my friends came out to Obama at a townhall event in London. This is cool. Odds that the bathroom shenanigans have any sort of impact outside the US, one way or the other?
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 19:19 |
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TinTower posted:One of my friends came out to Obama at a townhall event in London. Haha, I saw this on sky news and was really interested in it, but had to go to work half way. I was thinking, "ah poo poo, probably won't be able to see the rest of this ever, oh well" metalloid posted:This is cool.
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 20:03 |
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Megaspel posted:I think the bathroom shenanigans is an attack on LGBT by a notorious anti-LGBT group, it gives them power and reputation, and also says to anyone watching that this is something people in charge do and think is right. Not only that, but American politics heavily influence English politics anyway, last thing we want is some local bigots getting inspired. It's certainly anti-LGBT bigot terribleness. What I mean to ask is how much do bigots around the world pay attention to bigots in america?
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 20:11 |
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Megaspel posted:I think the bathroom shenanigans is an attack on LGBT by a notorious anti-LGBT group, it gives them power and reputation, and also says to anyone watching that this is something people in charge do and think is right. Not only that, but American politics heavily influence English politics anyway, last thing we want is some local bigots getting inspired. I suspect it's just a passing fad in the right wing, the current acceptable targets to hate and stir up poo poo over now that gay rights are no longer acceptable targets in the mainstream.
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 20:12 |
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metalloid posted:It's certainly anti-LGBT bigot terribleness. What I mean to ask is how much do bigots around the world pay attention to bigots in america? There appears to be something of a fundamental disparity between the anti-LGBT people in the US (mostly religious based, believe being gay is a bad moral choice) and the anti-LGBT people in Europe (often some flavor of generic far-right shithead, believe being gay is a genetic aberration) that means that they don't usually directly help one another out, but they do sometimes unwittingly end up helping the other side by accident, or vice versa. The best example I can think of being when some scientists claimed to have found a gay gene and some LGBT groups in the US celebrated possibly having some sort of biological basis for anti-discrimination laws, whereas the UK's Daily Mail printed "Abortion hope after 'gay genes' findings" because they are literal Nazis
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 20:30 |
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Guavanaut posted:Whereas the UK's Daily Mail printed "Abortion hope after 'gay genes' findings" I would have a lot of hope for aborting the parents who would show any interest in that.
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 20:35 |
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Guavanaut posted:Quite a lot in parts of Africa, because they make a special effort to be terrible there. No way. Was there any sort of outrage about that or is that par for course for the Daily Mail?
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 21:25 |
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Artificer posted:No way. Was there any sort of outrage about that or is that par for course for the Daily Mail? Rupert Murdoch owns the daily mail, and they frequently make Fox News look subtle by comparison.
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 21:32 |
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Artificer posted:No way. Was there any sort of outrage about that or is that par for course for the Daily Mail? The mail is a fascist publication. That isn't hyperbole, the people who write that newspaper love racial purity and Hitler, but they restrain themselves from saying anything that might get them shut down. Most of the time.
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 21:49 |
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Artificer posted:No way. Was there any sort of outrage about that or is that par for course for the Daily Mail?
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 21:50 |
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HorseLord posted:The mail is a fascist publication. That isn't hyperbole, the people who write that newspaper love racial purity and Hitler, but they restrain themselves from saying anything that might get them shut down. Most of the time. Yeah this isn't any exaggeration, and England has the advantage of having really old poo poo so we can see how history repeats itself. If Hitler was British, the Daily Mail would've supported him until the end. Instead, they only supported him until he declared a war on us.
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whoops, wrong thread. Have this instead, NC's bathroom bill is already starting to bear fruit; a cisgender woman was violently ejected from the women's bathroom by police: http://www.cartelpress.com/north-carolina-woman-kicked-womens-bathroom-police-mistaken-transgender/ Sharkie fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Apr 23, 2016 |
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that's terrible but it does show how retarded relying on peoples observation skills is for this kind of law
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 22:54 |
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Sharkie posted:whoops, wrong thread. Have this instead, NC's bathroom bill is already starting to bear fruit; a cisgender woman was violently ejected from the women's bathroom by police: Thankfully this particular incident seems to be fake news originating with worldnewsdailyreport.com.
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 23:10 |
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Prester Jane posted:Thankfully this particular incident seems to be fake news originating with worldnewsdailyreport.com. Sorry about my poor reading comprehension, everyone. I'm glad it's fake but I didn't find it very amusing. Still, things like this do happen: http://www.advocate.com/business/2015/06/17/Detroit-woman-kicked-out-restaurant-bathroom-looking-man-sues
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 23:31 |
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Can't help but worry there were bad motives behind making fake articles like that. A lesbian woman was ejected from a bathroom though, this is what I thought you were referring to: https://www.facebook.com/RealBlackHair/videos/1041393762599408
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# ? Apr 24, 2016 02:02 |
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Sharkie posted:Sorry about my poor reading comprehension, everyone. I'm glad it's fake but I didn't find it very amusing. Hey I've been to that restaurant. Food isn't bad. That other thing is Pure Michigan
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# ? Apr 24, 2016 02:36 |
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metalloid posted:It's certainly anti-LGBT bigot terribleness. What I mean to ask is how much do bigots around the world pay attention to bigots in america? New Zealand has one group (Family First) get a lot of ideas from and work with "Family" groups in America. They had some American from Focus on the Family write some crap about trans people last year and had it sent to schools.
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# ? Apr 24, 2016 04:16 |
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I'm hopeful the bathroom bill nonsense will get repealed, if not through the courts, then through pressure from business. Human Rights Campaign, an LGBT civil rights organization along with Equality NC, a similar org from North Carolina, has managed to get quite a number of big companies on board: http://equalitync.org/latest/news/businesses_against_hb2_updated_4_21/ It's poo poo that things like these have to come down to money pressure, but it seems to be a language that politicians understand. Eventually some of the non-diehard voters may start to consider if the cost in jobs is really worth the effort. As long as that piece of poo poo law gets taken off the books, I don't really care much how it is done. There are of course also lawsuits in the works, but part of the problem is that the bills also restrict what you can sue the state for. Anyway, it's not just Bruce Springsteen anymore and that can only be a good thing.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 17:59 |
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Missouri's Religious Freedom Amendment was struck down by a house committee in a 6-6 vote yesterday with three of the more business-minded Republicans jumping ship. You can already hear the religious wing sharpening their knives.
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GhostBoy posted:I'm hopeful the bathroom bill nonsense will get repealed, if not through the courts, then through pressure from business. Human Rights Campaign, an LGBT civil rights organization along with Equality NC, a similar org from North Carolina, has managed to get quite a number of big companies on board: http://equalitync.org/latest/news/businesses_against_hb2_updated_4_21/ It'll get repealed, because much like many of the 'morality' laws the Right loves to pass, it has no basis in actual established law and, is in fact, contrary to established laws. Either it gets repealed or the courts will strike it down, and frankly the politicians that passed it know it will happen. Passing these bills is just a way to appease their voting base, and then they can turn and raise a fuss when it inevitably gets struck down. ThingOne posted:Missouri's Religious Freedom Amendment was struck down by a house committee in a 6-6 vote yesterday with three of the more business-minded Republicans jumping ship. You can already hear the religious wing sharpening their knives. Their knives are getting awfully short. That's why all these bills and vocal hatred, they know they are losing their voting base due to age and decrease in members of those evangelical faiths. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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CommieGIR posted:
While I agree with the rest of the points you made in your post, I personally disagree with this point. I do not think the people passing these laws are aware that they will simply be struck down, nor do I think that this is a cynical Ploy just to rile the bass up. Well that would have been absolutely true 15 years ago, in our post Tea Party World, I really think that these are genuine true believers who have been elected to positions of power that are pushing these policies. I really think that the systematic effort by the Tea Party the primary everyone who was dumb enough to admit to having a rational opinion about governance and public has resulted in genuine True Believers seizing the reins of power in certain areas of the country. I don't believe at all that this is about just riling up the base at this point, this is about fighting a holy war against the alien other that is coming to destroy them all. They aren't really fighting to win, nor are they fighting to rile up the base 2 continue getting reelected. They're fighting because it's a righteous cause, and they perceived their only real two choices as being either that a passively going along with outright evil, or going down fighting the good fight.
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Colombia joins the club http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36166888
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Prester Jane posted:While I agree with the rest of the points you made in your post, I personally disagree with this point. I do not think the people passing these laws are aware that they will simply be struck down, nor do I think that this is a cynical Ploy just to rile the bass up. Well that would have been absolutely true 15 years ago, in our post Tea Party World, I really think that these are genuine true believers who have been elected to positions of power that are pushing these policies. I was about to ask if you had read Prester Jane's thread about this, but something tells me you already have
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 10:34 |
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CommieGIR posted:It'll get repealed, because much like many of the 'morality' laws the Right loves to pass, it has no basis in actual established law and, is in fact, contrary to established laws.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 23:06 |
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I just wanted to repost this quote from Mr. Horrible, because these anti-queer laws are not coming from nowhere; edited for pertinacity.Mr. Horrible posted:
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 23:17 |
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Yadoppsi posted:I just wanted to repost this quote from Mr. Horrible, because these anti-queer laws are not coming from nowhere; edited for pertinacity. The connection to Alliance Defending Freedom is much better supported than last week's determination that it must be Matt Staver and Liberty Counsel who were responsible.
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# ? Apr 30, 2016 00:49 |
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DoJ sent an interesting letter to North Carolina: HB2 violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Employment discrimination) and you've got 'till Monday to fix it. Also, the universities are in violation of Title IX of the Education amendments of 1972. Also, Dept of Public Safety is in violation of Title VII, too.
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# ? May 4, 2016 22:44 |
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A small town in Alabama called Oxford just released a brand new SUPER TOUGH bathroom law , passed unanimously... and then repealed it days later. http://www.vox.com/2016/4/27/11518364/oxford-alabama-transgender-criminal Cheers for people realizing how stupid this poo poo is or caving under pressure.
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# ? May 5, 2016 20:06 |
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It's sad that we've made so much progress yet these terrible 1950s style entrapment stings seem to be something that just won't go away, even in very liberal areas. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/05/long_beach_police_rebuked_for_illegal_anti_gay_stings.html quote:Surveying this evidence, Dhanidina ruled that “the Long Beach Police Department harbored animus toward homosexuals in its undercover investigations of lewd conduct.” Dhanidina noted that, in addition to singling out gay men for prosecution, the vice detail prevaricated in its reports, falsely stating that citizens had complained about lewd same-sex conduct where they had set up their stings when no such complaints were ever lodged. This is one of those things that just sits under the radar because few people are willing to defend the people involved in this even when the police are using entrapment tactics and deliberately targeting gay men only.
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# ? May 5, 2016 21:06 |
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MaxxBot posted:It's sad that we've made so much progress yet these terrible 1950s style entrapment stings seem to be something that just won't go away, even in very liberal areas. I just like imagining female cops being told to go into men's restrooms and smile and stare at random men. They'd have half the city arrested within a fortnight. Thank god the judge wasn't completely loving stupid here.
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Mercury_Storm posted:A small town in Alabama called Oxford just released a brand new SUPER TOUGH bathroom law , passed unanimously... and then repealed it days later. Willing to bet they repealed it in anticipation of the Feds coming down hard on Carolina.
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# ? May 5, 2016 21:37 |
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joat mon posted:DoJ sent an interesting letter to North Carolina: NC is responding with "gently caress YOU DAD YOU CAN'T MAKE ME" http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article75797342.html
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# ? May 6, 2016 06:39 |
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Time to wake the cybernetic husk of the Winter Sherman.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Time to wake the cybernetic husk of the Winter Sherman. I would follow a rampaging Robo-Sherman across the country like my friend's dad used to follow the Grateful Dead.
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ecureuilmatrix posted:NC is responding with "gently caress YOU DAD YOU CAN'T MAKE ME" And, lo, the Federal Courts did reach down and slap the gently caress out of North Carolina for not understanding the Supremacy Clause.
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