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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

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Apr 18, 2007

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Apr 18, 2007

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moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Glowforge pushed to December 2016. Apparently now moving assembly to the US, QnA tomorrow. I guess the Chinese beta units they were getting were worse than imagined

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
how has kickstarter and other clones not triggered some type of legislation for fundraising reform yet

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

lancemantis posted:

how has kickstarter and other clones not triggered some type of legislation for fundraising reform yet
they have, but im guessing you were thinking more "consumer protection" than "how do we let more rubes buy equity"

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
I still am moderately confident in the glowforge being decent, if only because they give you every opportunity to get a refund on the preorder every time they post an update. The forum is still insufferable though

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
the dark souls of board games https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/steamforged/dark-soulstm-the-board-game

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
lemme know how invasions will work




also loooooollllll at the poor schmuck whos gotta design the physical molds for those minis :suicide:

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
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Mister Sinewave posted:

also loooooollllll at the poor schmuck whos gotta design the physical molds for those minis :suicide:
this is a kickstarter, they're going to use their kickstarter money to buy a 3d printer

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Mister Sinewave posted:

also loooooollllll at the poor schmuck whos gotta design the physical molds for those minis :suicide:

it's always some chain smoking guy in China with a block of steel and a bunch of diamond files

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

anthonypants posted:

this is a kickstarter, they're going to use their kickstarter money to buy a 3d printer

lol

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

Sagebrush posted:

it's always some chain smoking guy in China with a block of steel and a bunch of diamond files
i have a p. funny story about this guy if there's ever another yosmeet

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
I bought the maker edition of fabulous Beasts so they'd give me the stl files. Looks cooler than dark souls board game tbqh

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
dark souls seems like it would be better suited for a tapletop rpg than miniatures tbh

SolTerrasa
Sep 2, 2011

A Yolo Wizard posted:

I still am moderately confident in the glowforge being decent, if only because they give you every opportunity to get a refund on the preorder every time they post an update. The forum is still insufferable though

The thing is, the guy did everything right. He had a working version before he launched, he validated demand, he sorted out his BOM, he knew how to build the thing in mass production, he made the right calls to the right suppliers and confirmed his supply chain was solid, got contracts ready to go, had his marketing materials and packaging plans all ready, all before he sold even one. Nobody is that prepared for their kickstarter, he did amazing. Then he sold a poo poo-ton of them, and discovered that even when you've done everything right, hardware manufacturing is aggravatingly difficult for stupid, stupid reasons.

Especially in China, your suppliers will straight-up lie to you about when things will be ready. Your project will get held up unless you pay the right bribes, but nobody ever tells you what the right bribes are, so you have to pay someone to know who you have to bribe and how much. Otherwise you'll never get anywhere in the guanxi system and no one will tell you why.

Moving everything to the US is a great sign; it means his margins were high enough that he can afford it, and it almost eliminates the risk of more of that specific sort of delay. But it's not like that solves everything. Hardware manufacturers will happily sign a contract to deliver X thousand units of Y hardware by date Z, knowing full well that they haven't invented Y yet and they can't spin up X units until Z plus 30 days. And they'll happily pay the penalties you wrote into the contract, assuming you remembered and your lawyer did a good job, because you've paid their R&D costs for the hardware you thought you were buying off the shelf. It's kickstarters all the way down. And once date Z rolls around, and your hardware suppliers say it'll be another month, you still have to go with them because the lead time for any *other* supplier will be way more than the 30 days they're asking for. And the assholes who made the decision to scam you know that as well as you do.

Even if you do everything right on the development end, and even if you pay the right bribes / move your operation to the US, and even if you have all the most expensive lawyers sorting out your complicated contracts for your entire supply chain so that no one can gently caress you over without paying huge penalties, you will *still* gently caress it up. I don't know how, exactly, but it'll happen. The ultrasonic welder at the factory breaks and they need a new one and delivery will take 3 weeks. The CMF comes back out of spec because they didn't use the pantone colors you asked for and now they have to re-mix the resin and it'll take 2 weeks. The hard tooling hit the floor and dented and it'll take 6 weeks to mill a new set because the people who do that are all off for Chinese new year. The injection molding process can't handle the sharp edge on the left side of the case and you'll have to rework the wiring to make it fit inside the revised design. Someone else paid better bribes than you and got bumped ahead of you in line. Maybe all those things.

There is just no way for an amateur or a novice to do a hardware project at scale. Even people with a dozen years experience get flummoxed by the complexity of manufacturing even relatively simple devices.

Basically just never back a hardware kickstarter, because even people with their poo poo together, advised by experts, with tens of millions in funding and a subsidiary office in China still can't build poo poo right.



e: im real mad about making poo poo

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



Never ever do anything in china

Read poorly made in China, the China.jpg thread in gbs and you'll understand

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
idk if this was ever on Kickstarter but the shiftiness and begging for money certainly fits the thread: http://www.titanichg.com/

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



FrozenVent posted:

idk if this was ever on Kickstarter but the shiftiness and begging for money certainly fits the thread: http://www.titanichg.com/

Ok I'm pretty sure those screen shots are straight up stolen from titanic adventure out of time

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



honor & glory sounds like a ww2 shootmans

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
saw this in the free paper today

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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

fishmech posted:

saw this in the free paper today



https://www.gofundme.com/6pqyfruc

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
aw, no donations :(

the "update" is p. lomarf tho

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

That bear looks really miserable, is the intent to scare children with it?

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
it looks like a stock photo of a teddy bear :shrug:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



ya thats getty images or whatever, no doubt. whatever insane person thinks a music bear is good for kids who have nightmares does not have the personal energy to actually take a photo of a teddy bear in optimal conditions w like the white backdrop and lighting

like p sure this is someone whos bipolar and they were feeling p good when they made the gofundme.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



now theyre ignoring the automatic email reminders from gofundme that suggest promoting the horrible horrible thing they did

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/qualmate/box-of-cat-3d-virtual-reality-game-app-for-ios-and?ref=newest
140k to make something out of 1997

Jerry Bindle
May 16, 2003
hahahahhaa

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Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
they learned from all the kickstarters that ran into issues because they forgot to budget for shipping out the rewards

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Snapchat A Titty posted:

like p sure this is someone whos bipolar and they were feeling p good when they made the gofundme.

oh please, no random capitalizations, no ellipses, no walls of text?

Underwear
May 13, 2006

fishmech posted:

saw this in the free paper today



do people not even do a cursory google search to see if their "invention" already exists?

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
Why should I it's MY IDEA i thought of it :mad:

Athletic Footjob
Sep 24, 2005
Grimey Drawer
id like to do an online shop so you can buy goods without being limited to regular store hours. ill called it "amazin'" because its such a great idea

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Snapchat A Titty posted:

like p sure this is someone whos bipolar

im making a semi functional toy, its the bipolar bear

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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some more bad kickstarters

multi function spinning top

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/250665036/mralpha-top-worlds-first-multi-functional-top

flying 3d printers

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/325915421/flying-3d-printers?ref=newest

single use phone chargers (resold from alibaba)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1002083838/derp-disposable-emergency-recharging-pack

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

lol DERP

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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the tactical top thing is super funny b/c dudes literally ran out of gadgets to carry around so they reinvented some

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Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
jfc did wheany make a kickstarter generator

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