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Chaltab posted:That's... really poor game design given how low starting HP is for everyone. Is there a mod that lets you make death saving throws when reduced to 0 like in the actual tabletop game? Chaltab posted:Cleric/Illusionist. But I knew that would be a squishy class going in. The problem is the rest of my party and having to pay to resurrect them. You know how in Dragon Age your party members are knocked unconscious but get back up at the end of combat? And you still get a game over if everyone goes down? That seems like a lot more reasonable difficulty curve than this poo poo. Right now though I really find the brutal lethality of low-level combat rather refreshing since so many new games go to such extreme lengths to ensure you never lose progress. I mean, this and Dark Souls are pretty much all I play these days. And they both have flaws, but the difficulty isn't, what I feel, one of them.
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I don't see how they're baiting anything. AD&D is badly-put-together garbage and most people know that, but it's often shocking when people come from better systems and expect it to not be poo poo.
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Apr 25, 2016 11:23
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Kavak posted:I don't know if that was a thing in 2nd Edition. Neverwinter Nights killed you at 0 HP rather than -10, too. 2e had an optional rule in the book to let characters fall unconscious at 0 and die at -10, and a lot of groups used that (enough that it became standard in 3e), but the default was that at 0 you were dead. Thuryl fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Apr 25, 2016 |
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Apr 25, 2016 11:29
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Lemon-Lime posted:I don't see how they're baiting anything. AD&D is badly-put-together garbage and most people know that, but it's often shocking when people come from better systems and expect it to not be poo poo. It might have been unintentional, but I've seen people get *reeaally* defensive about their favorite version of D&D. I think 5th edition has just made people really give up on it all though.
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Apr 25, 2016 11:33
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ProfessorCirno posted:Lathander isn't so much "nice" as he is "naive" and "young" and also occasionally "unwilling to put up with Realmslore bullshit;" apparently there was some weird event that's only vaguely hinted at that involved him going "Uh, why the gently caress do we just kinda sit around and let the evil gods exist instead of kicking their asses out?" Unfortunately, the bullshit is stronger then any one god, and it mostly just lead to some random lesser goddess nobody had heard about dying because reasons. It's called the Dawn Cataclysm, and in Valerie's BG2 content that I'm working on, she brings it up with Gavin in crossmod content as to why she doesn't Lathander. Then again, as planned, a couple of Valerie's epilogues will see her become an outright priestess of Torm - still a sorcerer, but a priestess by vocation.
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Apr 25, 2016 12:26
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Bholder posted:Only real bullshit is that if your Main Character dies or gets turned to stone it's instant game over while you can resurrect everyone else That makes sense from a plot point of view. Game over if the PC is soloing and charmed, though, is another matter!
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Apr 25, 2016 13:52
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MrL_JaKiri posted:That makes sense from a plot point of view. Game over if the PC is soloing and charmed, though, is another matter! Until BG2 where it becomes a problem again because the MC is not the only Bhaalspawn in the party
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Apr 25, 2016 14:08
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Exercu posted:Until BG2 where it becomes a problem again because the MC is not the only Bhaalspawn in the party The worst part is that banter in Throne of Bhaal establishes that Imoen has actually died and been resurrected, so you can't just dodge that plothole by making sure she never bites it. Why do I go to the northern exit of the Bridge District every time I enter it from the south? I am trying to immerse myself, game! 
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Apr 25, 2016 14:15
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Kavak posted:The worst part is that banter in Throne of Bhaal establishes that Imoen has actually died and been resurrected, so you can't just dodge that plothole by making sure she never bites it. I didn't know this was a thing. What does she say about dying? Is there a reason given why she isn't absorbed into the Throne?
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Apr 25, 2016 14:17
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rakovsky maybe posted:I didn't know this was a thing. What does she say about dying? Is there a reason given why she isn't absorbed into the Throne? She says things just go dark and then she's alive again. And no reason is given- Bioware was really inconsistent about how exactly being Bhaalspawn works. You interact with it one way in BGI, another in BGII, and I think things change again in Throne of Bhaal.
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Apr 25, 2016 14:19
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Kavak posted:I don't know if that was a thing in 2nd Edition. Neverwinter Nights killed you at 0 HP rather than -10, too. I imagine Neverwinter Nights did it that way because you can only control your created character, everyone else is an AI controlled henchman. So for all intents and purposes, falling to 0 HP may as well have been death since it's not like you'll be able to control anyone else to stabilize you from unconsciousness and the AI henchmen is too dumb to do that.
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Kavak posted:The worst part is that banter in Throne of Bhaal establishes that Imoen has actually died and been resurrected, so you can't just dodge that plothole by making sure she never bites it. Shadows of Amn does directly state that Charname is weird even for a Bhaalspawn - Bhaal himself says you're unique and different from all the others.
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Did they introduce the whole 'Bhaalsdpawns can't be resurrected' just to explain the Game Over or did it actually had a reason?
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Does anyone know the dialogue choices for Chapter 10 of Siege where you encounter the other people from where Minsc and Jaheira are from? I've got the evidence, but after I present it their like " Nope, that's still not enough" and then go and join Caelar. Minsc and Jaheira are already in my party. Quest is : Wychalaran and the Berserker. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Apr 25, 2016 |
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Apr 25, 2016 15:11
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Mr. Fortitude posted:I imagine Neverwinter Nights did it that way because you can only control your created character, everyone else is an AI controlled henchman. So for all intents and purposes, falling to 0 HP may as well have been death since it's not like you'll be able to control anyone else to stabilize you from unconsciousness and the AI henchmen is too dumb to do that. This sounds horrible, like trying to manage a Skyrim mod party. There's no room for real strategy and you're constantly at the mercy of the AI.
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Hollismason posted:Does anyone know the dialogue choices for Chapter 10 of Siege where you encounter the other people from where Minsc and Jaheira are from? I've got the evidence, but after I present it their like " Nope, that's still not enough" and then go and join Caelar. It's Minsc and Dynaheir (I got the names confused sometimes too, don't worry)
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Yeah, I still can't figure out what I'm doing wrong here. I did manage to get the Berserker to turn against the Witch and now she's dead, but I still can't get the option for them to just leave.
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Apr 25, 2016 16:10
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I think I'm finally starting to get a hang of a playstyle for BG2. I've just finished the Twisted Rune fight and now I'm half tempted to try my luck on Watcher's Keep beyond stealthing in for a few key loots. Or I could start Chapter 3. I guess.
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Apr 25, 2016 17:04
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I finished Baldur's Gate! I first played this game like 15 years ago, and i've FINALLY finished it! Now, on to SoD!
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Hollismason posted:Yeah, I still can't figure out what I'm doing wrong here. I did manage to get the Berserker to turn against the Witch and now she's dead, but I still can't get the option for them to just leave.
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Wizard Styles posted:I remember getting them both to abandon the crusade by telling them to trust Dynaheir's judgment. Yea I do that and she is still like nope peace out. mean is there more evidence to gather? I choose option one to show her the evidence then am like we all totally saw it and she still leaves. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Apr 25, 2016 |
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Apr 25, 2016 17:20
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idk, what evidence are you showing her? I don't remember all the specifics, but I stole Hephernaan's notes and gave those to her.
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Wizard Styles posted:idk, what evidence are you showing her? Which notes? I gave her some notes I found near that whole lost city area
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Apr 25, 2016 17:42
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Go up into the castle and explore his room.
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Apr 25, 2016 17:43
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Kavak posted:Go up into the castle and explore his room. Ah wrong notes.
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Does anyone have a list of what mods are/have been updated to work with SoD? It took like a day and a hundred posts in this thread to get my current SCS+other mods BGEE1-2 installs up and running and while I really want to dive back in, I am really happy with my modded game and would prefer to wait it out if updates look likely. I can post my mod list later but iirc I have: SCS - not the full install but most of the non-insane options Tweakpac lvl1ncp The one that tweaks Thief and Assassin stuff
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Hollismason posted:Ah wrong notes.
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Is there any advantage/disadvantage to buying on Steam vs Gog vs Beamdog? I read that you can't do multiplayer with steam and gog separately which I guess wouldn't be an issue because of Gog's lack of DRM, my friend could always magically obtain my gog copy I guess. I own the originals on Gog and at this point I'm wondering if its worth the extra $6 to get the EE's, versus waiting for a super steamsale. I've never played more than 2-3 hours of any BG fakeedit: I realized how dumb this was after typing it I'm just gonna get the gog ee's thanks thread. real edit: some people seem really steamed about EE updates "ruining a masterpiece", should I ignore them like I planned on doing
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Yeah, pretty much. It's mostly "CHANGE BAD", and that includes my own problems with the new patch.
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Kavak posted:Yeah, pretty much. It's mostly "CHANGE BAD", and that includes my own problems with the new patch. Also "buggy, and don't like Dorn/Hexxat/Rasaad/Neera/etc." I personally haven't bought the EEs because the original games still run on my computer and EE adds nothing I care enough about to pay money for.
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Rasaad needs to be replaced with a different bald monk- Saitama or Krillin, either would be more effective and interesting. I've got scrolls of Protection from Undead aplenty, is it worth getting Azuredge to clear out Bodhi's guild?
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Cythereal posted:Also "buggy, and don't like Dorn/Hexxat/Rasaad/Neera/etc." I have the EE editions on gog and being able to zoom out , a better interface, and just in general looking better is awesome, plus Draginspear expansion. The games total will run you 40 bucks for all of it on GOG. I think that's a bargain. According to GOG I've got 110 hours logged on just Baldurs Gate and expansions. I still have BG2 and ToB. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Apr 25, 2016 |
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Has anyone tried to mod 3/3.5e rules into BG or BG2? I know ID2 uses it. Could you run the BG2 maps and everything on its engine?
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Harlock posted:Has anyone tried to mod 3/3.5e rules into BG or BG2? I know ID2 uses it. Could you run the BG2 maps and everything on its engine? Some people have made attempts to sort of do it but you're looking at a total conversion amount of work.
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Harlock posted:Has anyone tried to mod 3/3.5e rules into BG or BG2? I know ID2 uses it. Could you run the BG2 maps and everything on its engine? It would be a better use of everyone's time to just mod the BG1/2 campaigns into PoE, and thus end up with a system that isn't pure, unadulterated garbage.
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Hollismason posted:I have the EE editions on gog and being able to zoom out , a better interface, and just in general looking better is awesome, plus Draginspear expansion. Can I wait on buying draginspear or does it add stuff to original BGEE I don't really care about new NPC's not feeling "in place", I've modded elder scrolls games for over a decade, I've probably seen worse. For my first playthrough can I crank down the difficulty to like easy/medium and only roll with the PC + 2-3 npcs or do I have to run with a full party? (Yeah I know you can solo but I'm saying for the person who doesn't play IE games) Am I going to miss all the sick nasty NPC quests and backstories or can I pick them up at the inn and do their stuff whenever I feel like it? I played through Pillars with a full party and was really not into micromanaging a roving horde.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Change is bad lol, just lol if you didn't copy the v. 1.3. EE games to a place where Steam couldn't touch them
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Kavak posted:Are there any serious undead fights besides the vampires and the liches in BG II? Besides? There's a lot of both of those. I guess there's some moderately buff mummies you run into from time to time.
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