Wii U General - Gaming Dad: "It's better to lose as Bowser than win as Toad"

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Motto: Aug 3, 2013

Takoluka posted:

Idols are good.

the market disagrees

# ? Apr 25, 2016 20:34

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# ? May 29, 2024 16:31

Help Im Alive: Nov 8, 2009

I think I read that the idol industry is super shady + sad but idk

# ? Apr 25, 2016 20:36

No. 1 Callie Fan: Feb 17, 2011; This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE

Help Im Alive posted:

I think I read that the idol industry is super shady + sad but idk

We could start a whole discussion about it, but this is not the place for it.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 20:40

Motto: Aug 3, 2013

Renoistic posted:

FE# is kind of frustrating. The presentation is absolutely gorgeous for a JRPG. Whenever I watch a video of a fight sequence I'm all "I should buy it". Then I watch videos and realize I can't stand anything about the game apart from the concert battles, music, and menu design. It's like a very expensive and beautiful, shining turd. All the expensive presentation/animation getting wasted on such a boring, derivative game. It seems like there wasn't even a single original thought put into it. drat shame.

I don't really understand what you're getting at here.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 21:34

General Morden: Mar 3, 2013; GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA

Motto posted:

I don't really understand what you're getting at here.

he's getting at that he's not going to play or buy the game

hope this helps

# ? Apr 25, 2016 21:35

Dr Cheeto: Mar 2, 2013; Wretched Harp

Just some idol thoughts.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 21:36

Motto: Aug 3, 2013

General Morden posted:

he's getting at that he's not going to play or buy the game

hope this helps

Yeah but I don't get what's offensive about the game that isn't contained in the battles and music. All the showbiz-pop-music stuff is as present there as anywhere else.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 21:38

Takoluka: Jun 26, 2009; Don't look at me!

Help Im Alive posted:

I think I read that the idol industry is super shady + sad but idk

Some of it is good. Some of it is bad. None of it requires you to fight demons, and that's the real crime here.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 21:52

General Morden: Mar 3, 2013; GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA

dark souls: sins of the first idol

# ? Apr 25, 2016 21:53

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

#FE is like a good game, that i will play and enjoy

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:17

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Help Im Alive posted:

I think I read that the idol industry is super shady + sad but idk

i mean it is but so are most major industries, it's not like the idol industry is some hosed up machine that exists to torture people, it's just people trying to make money and that naturally sometimes leads to weird, hosed up things

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:18

Viewtiful Jew: Apr 21, 2007; Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

In the next Splatoon the Squid Sisters will have broken up because one of them refuses to apologize on national TV for breaking the facade and having an actual lobster boyfriend.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:23

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

larry from spongebob?

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:25

absolutely anything: Dec 28, 2006; ~As for dreams, she has enough and more to spare~

oddium posted:

i feel i've learned a lot from chulip actually

the rule of love are the rules of the universe

the rules of the universe are the rules of long life town

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:31

ThisIsACoolGuy: Nov 2, 2010; Shaped like a friend

jivjov posted:

Time for another post about Nintendo Force Magazine!

Issue #21 is all about Mother 3, including new clay art for the cover, and a poster done by Matthew Taranto of Brawl in the Family fame.

Only a few days left to get on the print mailing list for this one! (Click here to go to their Patreon page)

Did the artist that draw this also do the Brawl in the Family comic? Looks the same.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:35

oddium: Feb 21, 2006; end of the 4.5 tatami age

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Did the artist that draw this also do the Brawl in the Family comic? Looks the same.

how will you live this one down ...

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:36

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

jivjov posted:

Matthew Taranto of Brawl in the Family fame.

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Did the artist that draw this also do the Brawl in the Family comic? Looks the same.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:38

Renoistic: Jul 27, 2007; Everyone has a
guardian angel.

Motto posted:

Yeah but I don't get what's offensive about the game that isn't contained in the battles and music. All the showbiz-pop-music stuff is as present there as anywhere else.

In short, it's a mixed bag.

Good:
-Bright and colorful
-Good detailed animations
-Lots of nice details like the screens with the party members.
-Cheery music

Bad:
-Stock high school anime characters (with all that that entails) and characters swiped from other games.
-The story is completely uninteresting to me.
-(Seemingly) Celebrating the awful idol industry.
-Pretty-ed up boring Persona dungeons are still just boring Persona dungeons.
-Same-y battles.

In short, it's a pretty but creatively bankrupt game. Also, I'm completely sick of games with high schoolers. In the best case scenario, they're stupid and uninspired, but most often they are plain creepy no matter if they raise a number to 18 or not. IMHO, if they are completely out of ideas, they should have made another Catherine instead.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:41

Motto: Aug 3, 2013

So it's an atlus game?

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:44

Renoistic: Jul 27, 2007; Everyone has a
guardian angel.

Motto posted:

So it's an atlus game?

I guess that might be the problem yeah. Catherine was good, though. It focused on what they're good at with very little of the tedious stuff. It didn't hurt that the puzzle sections were actually really fun.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:50

ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

Renoistic posted:

In short, it's a pretty but creatively bankrupt game. Also, I'm completely sick of games with high schoolers. In the best case scenario, they're stupid and uninspired, but most often they are plain creepy no matter if they raise a number to 18 or not. IMHO, if they are completely out of ideas, they should have made another Catherine instead.

Claiming it's creatively bankrupt is pretty extreme, especially based off the fact you're looking at relatively limited information.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:51

Alfalfa The Roach: Oct 13, 2012; You need to be a badass first.

I like high school settings 'cause it's easier to relate to high schoolers and I like seeing them deal with adolescent problems

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:52

Supercar Gautier: Jun 10, 2006

I think its fine to make a game about high schoolers IF and only if its not about looking at their boobs or up their skirts.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:54

Louisgod: Sep 25, 2003; Always Watching; Bread Liar

Supercar Gautier posted:

I think its fine to make a game about high schoolers IF and only if its not about looking at their boobs or up their skirts.

This is somehow a controversial opinion in places

# ? Apr 25, 2016 22:59

ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

High school settings are overdone but they also kind of have a relevant reason for being overdone. High school is presented (fairly or not) in media as the transformative moment between childhood and adulthood. Characters in that age group are young enough to be presented as part of an upcoming generation who are dealing with a number of issues which tend to make for interesting melodrama to a wide range of audiences. There's some uncomfortable fetishization both of the actual age group and of high school as a 'magical time' that really is uncomfortable but also not going away anytime soon. College also fills a similar niche in a lot of stories but there's cultural differences in that case.

In addition SMT is basically about high school students and while it occasionally deviates from that it's pretty rare and their most successful entries have been about that so it's sort of odd to expect them to do something completely different. They have. (Strange Journey, for example) but when they're working on something specifically designed as a crossover it's more likely to try to emphasize specific elements than to do something completely off the wall.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 23:01

FanaticalMilk: Mar 11, 2011

Louisgod posted:

This is somehow a controversial opinion in places

New Jersey for example.

Renoistic posted:

I guess that might be the problem yeah. Catherine was good, though. It focused on what they're good at with very little of the tedious stuff. It didn't hurt that the puzzle sections were actually really fun.

Catherine seems to be the exception for Atlus, not the norm.

# ? Apr 25, 2016 23:01

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

idols are cool

# ? Apr 25, 2016 23:05

elf help book: Aug 5, 2004; Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up

Endorph posted:

idols are cool

Louisgod posted:

This is somehow a controversial opinion in places

# ? Apr 25, 2016 23:13

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

ImpAtom posted:

High school settings are overdone but they also kind of have a relevant reason for being overdone. High school is presented (fairly or not) in media as the transformative moment between childhood and adulthood. Characters in that age group are young enough to be presented as part of an upcoming generation who are dealing with a number of issues which tend to make for interesting melodrama to a wide range of audiences. There's some uncomfortable fetishization both of the actual age group and of high school as a 'magical time' that really is uncomfortable but also not going away anytime soon. College also fills a similar niche in a lot of stories but there's cultural differences in that case.

In addition SMT is basically about high school students and while it occasionally deviates from that it's pretty rare and their most successful entries have been about that so it's sort of odd to expect them to do something completely different. They have. (Strange Journey, for example) but when they're working on something specifically designed as a crossover it's more likely to try to emphasize specific elements than to do something completely off the wall.

Isn't it also partly that they're the only ones who "realistically" have time to go burn running around parallel worlds in Japanese society? Once you're in college or a job there your workload gets really busy doesn't it?

# ? Apr 25, 2016 23:14