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bigis posted:My post was in response to dumb stuff like Dissolve the ADF and send them all to the Hague
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My grandfather served in the navy in WW2. He died of asbestosis leading to mesothelioma because of exposure during his service. I don't know what this has to do with anything but gently caress war and any glorification of it.
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iajanus posted:My grandfather served in the navy in WW2. He died of asbestosis leading to mesothelioma because of exposure during his service. ANZAC day is a great way to perpetuate mindless support for any kind of military actions by Straya because it ignores the actual purpose of the war and just glorifies the people who died in it. Now you can go and nuke anywhere on earth and any criticism of it will just get shut down with "how dare u criticise our troops omg u traiter THINK OF THE DIGGERS MY ANZAC GREAT GREAT GRANDDADDY WOULD BE ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE TO HEAR YOU SPEAK ILL OF THE ANZAC SPIRIT" Also it's a great roll call to draw in other windowlickers to sign up and bomb brown people
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Sludge Tank posted:ANZAC day is a great way to perpetuate mindless support for any kind of military actions by Straya because it ignores the actual purpose of the war and just glorifies the people who died in it. Now you can go and nuke anywhere on earth and any criticism of it will just get shut down with "how dare u criticise our troops omg u traiter THINK OF THE DIGGERS MY ANZAC GREAT GREAT GRANDDADDY WOULD BE ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE TO HEAR YOU SPEAK ILL OF THE ANZAC SPIRIT" Not disagreeing.
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MaliciousOnion posted:My dad served in the army for 20 years. When I finished school he told me to do anything I wanted, except become a rifleman. So you became an onion?
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Apr 25, 2016 11:54
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Whole lot of anti-Australian sentiment here, don't you know are troops died for your right to praise them unconditionally?
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Jumpingmanjim posted:So you became an onion? Still a step up from rifleman, really.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Still a step up from rifleman, really. Keep telling yourself that when you meet a hungry Tony Abbott in a dark alleyway.
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The Lord Bude posted:Keep telling yourself that when you meet a hungry Tony Abbott in a dark alleyway. Alright, fess up, how do you know about my repeating nightmare?
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kirbysuperstar posted:Alright, fess up, how do you know about my repeating nightmare? Are you an onion, too?
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I say unto you, verily, we are all onions in the eyes of Tones.
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Apr 25, 2016 13:02
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Great posts today thread. #lessweforget
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Skellybones posted:Whole lot of anti-Australian sentiment here, don't you know are troops died for your right to praise them unconditionally? and by god they will continue to do so
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Every ex-ADF member i knew from living in Townsville for like 20 years were great fellas with their heads screwed on right, which is probably why they were no longer in the army. Sounded like the usual problem with militaries the world over: poo poo floats to the top, and all the clever ones get out to go on and do more with life. I wouldn't exactly go up to any given military guy in a pub and start heckling him for being a retard or whatever, that really doesn't tend to work well with anyone in any vocation, but there's no way you'd ever catch me in uniform. That poo poo sounds miserable. I'm happy making maps and flying drones for blissfully gay and boring reasons entirely removed from the military. happy We Got Owned day y'all!!!
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Apr 25, 2016 13:28
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So we're apparently getting French submarines. What does this mean? Is there anywhere that compares the three different bids, or is it all confidential?
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I found this which has a quick description of the proposals http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-submarines-competition-idUSKCN0UZ316 and I'd heard the Germans had visited SA scouting for locations to set up shop. They'd been looking at Whyalla since we used to have the shipyard here. No idea what the French proposal had planned and the Japanese seemed reluctant to build in SA. A different article which I don't have a link to says a concern with the Japanese proposal was the use of lithium batteries which can be very dangerous but that the Japanese had denied the danger since they use the technology themselves.
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Is it true that Anzac Day was never really much of a big deal until Howard specifically tried to promote it? I mean I guess we didn't really have any wars between Vietnam and Afghanistan.
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I've heard people say that about Australia day but not ANZAC day. I think attributing it all to Howard is probably overestimating his abilities anyway.
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Australia Day wasn't a holiday in every state until the mid 90's so it kinda took off after then. I think that actually happened during Keating's reign anyway (1994 IIRC).
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Apr 26, 2016 02:18
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Tones promised the subs to Japan. Hurt feelings now
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Negligent posted:Tones promised the subs to Japan. Hurt feelings now Many Sudokos will be commited today.
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Treasurer Scott Morrison has a lot on his mind a week out from the federal budget. Which explains a seniors moment on Anzac Day. Mr Morrison forgot to apply the handbrake when he parked his car at a dawn service he attended in his southern-Sydney electorate. A constituent alerted him to the error just as the car began to roll away. Fortunately, no harm was done. "It was early in the morning and I appreciate the help from one of my good shire mates," Mr Morrison told Ray Hadley on radio 2GB on Tuesday. "It was not one of my finest driving moments." Hadley warned the treasurer there would be many similar moments as he gets older, but Mr Morrison is not too worried. "(My wife) Jen can drive. She's a much better driver than me."
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Malcolm Turnbull hits back at Grattan Institute over negative gearing The prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, has used a blog post to criticise the Grattan Institute’s new report on negative gearing, saying it is “littered with factually incorrect statements” and its economic analysis “leaves a lot to be desired”. In a post on his website, Turnbull says he has a great deal of respect for the Grattan Institute and its chief executive, John Daley, “but on this occasion they have it wrong”. The well-respected Grattan Institute released a report on Monday, Hot property: negative gearing and capital gains tax reform, arguing that the government’s dire warnings that rents will soar and property prices will crash if negative gearing and the capital gains tax discount are wound back are not supported by the facts. It has raised the temperature of the already heated debate over housing investment policy, coming just one day after Turnbull promised not touch negative gearing in his May 3 budget. The treasurer, Scott Morrison, also hit out against the report, which claims the government’s dire warnings about changes to negative gearing are wrong. Turnbull says current policy settings are helping “mum and dad investors” and that Labor’s policy – to restrict negative gearing to new housing and to cut the capital gains tax discount from 50% to 25% – would send rents soaring and property prices crashing. The Grattan Institute report shows negative gearing largely benefits the wealthy, with the top 10% of income earners before rental deductions getting almost 50% of the tax benefits. It also shows the current regime allows investors to reduce and defer their personal income tax, at an annual cost of $11bn to taxpayers. It says the government could raise $5.3bn a year – with little effect on house prices or housing supply – if it cut the capital gains tax discount from 50% to 25% and limited negative gearing by preventing losses on passive investments from being written off against wage and salary income. It then explains why those changes would not hurt the economy like the government has been claiming. “Our best estimate is that the changes we recommend might lead to property prices up to 2% lower than [they] otherwise [would be],” the report says. “There will be little impact on rents, or on the rate of new development, even in the long term.” The treasurer told the ABC on Tuesday that the report recommends hitting mum and dad investors with higher taxes. Morrison then said the report actually confirms what that government has been saying – that changes to negative gearing and the capital gains tax discount would undermine the value of homes, would increase rents and would not help housing supply. ... http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/apr/26/malcolm-turnbull-hits-back-at-grattan-institute-over-negative-gearing
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How would rents rise as house prices crash? I mean I'm not that good at economics, but house prices crashed, wouldn't that lead to people that would then be able to afford it buying houses, leading to less renters leading to downward pressure on renting prices? I'm happy to be proven wrong, but it just seems counter intuitive that house prices would go one way while rental prices would go the other.
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freebooter posted:Is it true that Anzac Day was never really much of a big deal until Howard specifically tried to promote it? I mean I guess we didn't really have any wars between Vietnam and Afghanistan. It had been on the upswing for a while before he became PM but he did reshape it as a more explicit proxy for conservative anglo iconography.
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Investors get scared of declining value in vacant properties so try to make up the loss by raising rent on occupied propertiesm
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Ket posted:How would rents rise as house prices crash? Turnbull's argument (from what I have seen) is that landlords would increase rents to cover the shortfall in losing the NG deduction. Which they could try and wonder why their properties sit vacant because there are now fewer renters and lower demand for rental properties.
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It's always amusing when the "free market party" demonstrates conclusively that the have no idea about market economics.
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Birdstrike posted:Turnbull's argument (from what I have seen) is that landlords would increase rents to cover the shortfall in losing the NG deduction. Isn't that why a vacancy tax is being proposed to force investor properties onto the rental market? Turnbull's BS is classic muddy the waters he-said she-said. Apparently the Grattan Institute is both wrong AND confirms what the government is saying. Although we already know Morrison and Turnbull can't get their BS straight.
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ewe2 posted:Isn't that why a vacancy tax is being proposed to force investor properties onto the rental market? Turnbull's BS is classic muddy the waters he-said she-said. Apparently the Grattan Institute is both wrong AND confirms what the government is saying. Although we already know Morrison and Turnbull can't get their BS straight. I haven't heard anything about a vacancy tax, I think the much more straightforward answer is that rents fall in line with market demand. A landlord who increased prices would likely have a vacant property and would soon find themselves up a particular creek. Like how a market is supposed to work, somebody tell SloMo
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quote:As argued many times, MB sees the removal of negative gearing as price negative for capital values and rents: http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2016/04/turnbull-blog-flames-grattan-self/
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Today my JSA gave me a "Hygiene Pack" as a reward for showing up to an appointment. Thank you free market.
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Anidav posted:Today my JSA gave me a "Hygiene Pack" as a reward for showing up to an appointment.  Also as of today cycling on footpaths is now legal in W.A. I had no idea it was illegal prior to today.
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The vampire squid thing is ok too http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2016/04/labor-versus-the-giant-australian-vampire-squid/
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They are giving them out to everyone, underemployed uni students are too dumb to bathe you see.
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 The lowest of low hanging fruit. I almost bought a copy of "The Short and Excruciatingly Embarrassing Reign of Captain Abbott " but I could have bought any number of books about distateful fuckwits and settled on a biography of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Franklin instead. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/federal-budget-deficit-likely-to-keep-blowing-out/7355404 quote:Budget 2016: Deficit likely to keep blowing out, Deloitte forecast warns By business reporter Michael Janda Updated about 4 hours ago Now when even the economic drys come out and (reluctantly) insist that taxation has to increase you know that the story being sold to you by Sco Mo and Co. is utter ballderdash with a sprinkling of manure. But wait there's something way more important OVER THERE OH LOOK AND IT'S SPARKLY! Cynical dole bludgers making us sick Daily Rash of Telling poo poo quote:MORE than 70,000 dole bludgers are exploiting a medical loophole to avoid having to get a job by claiming they are too sick to work. In some parts of Sydney and the Central Coast more than 50 per cent of all dole recipients use GP sick notes to claim they are too unwell to hold down a job. An investigation by the Department of Human Services has uncovered what the Turnbull government believes is widespread rorting of the medical loophole by some dole bludgers, as well as unscrupulous GPs. The most common conditions that are used to avoid working include depression, anxiety, muscular-skeletal problems, drug addiction and alcohol dependence. The figures, obtained by the Herald Sun, reveal almost 8 per cent of all Newstart, youth allowance and single-parent payment recipients use GP medical certificates to get around mandatory jobseeking requirements. They are all welfare recipients who are deemed not to be sick enough to receive the Disability Support Pension. https://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/disability-support-pension quote:You may receive Disability Support Pension if you: This was the front page on the Telegraph. I suppose it could have been worse, with even more space given to our latest TERROR MINNOW or is that minor? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/teen-charged-with-anzac-day-terror-plot-'will-plead-not-guilty'/7357624 quote:Sydney teen charged with Anzac Day terror plot will plead not guilty, lawyer says By Jessica Kidd, staff Updated about an hour ago How about some evidence rather than anecdote? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/navy-officer-reports-assault-on-anzac-day-train-service/7356920 quote:Navy officer reports being assaulted after Anzac Day service posted about 6 hours ago http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/adf-members-seek-ptsd-treatment-in-secrecy/7356718 quote:ADF personnel seek PTSD treatment in secrecy to avoid 'career suicide', members say Exclusive by Alexandra Fisher Updated about 2 hours ago Don't ask don't tell. I got through ANZAC day without seeing anything that disturbed me much. I can not fathom the AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI crowd though. ANZAC was a massive failure. Our forefathers wanted us to remember what it meant to follow a foreign master into a stupid conflict half way around the world. Want to remember and honour their memory? quote:ANZAC COMMENT 1: It was a mistake, alltogether.
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Birdstrike posted:I haven't heard anything about a vacancy tax, I think the much more straightforward answer is that rents fall in line with market demand. A landlord who increased prices would likely have a vacant property and would soon find themselves up a particular creek. It's being suggested in Melbourne by Launch Housing, who specialize in the housing needs of domestic violence victims: quote:Not for Profit housing provider, Launch Housing, has proposed a tax on vacant properties to increase funding to support women and children experiencing homelessness after fleeing family violence. Not a bad idea IMHO, not a total solution, but definitely a negotiating position.
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Anidav posted:They are giving them out to everyone, underemployed uni students are too dumb to bathe you see. Is that a shave stick? If so, is that a thing again?
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