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Going back to ANZAZ stuff for a moment, when and why the gently caress do people keep saying the soldiers died protecting our freedums? It's incredibly untrue, this country has never had its freedoms threatened by another country and ESPECIALLY during WW1 so where the gently caress are people getting the idea the ANZACs died for our freedum?
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Anzac day is the day we commemorate one of the times stephen j fry almost got everybodys granddad shot Tarantula posted:Going back to ANZAZ stuff for a moment, when and why the gently caress do people keep saying the soldiers died protecting our freedums? It's incredibly untrue, this country has never had its freedoms threatened by another country and ESPECIALLY during WW1 so where the gently caress are people getting the idea the ANZACs died for our freedum? Because we import about 75% of our national identity wholesale from america
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Next year for anzac in rolling coal. Lest we forgrt
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katlington posted:Because we import about 75% of our national identity wholesale from america I see even my lefty friends saying that stuff and it's really creepy.
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You know when you defeat another country you get to take their colonies, right? If the Germans had won WW1 it seems improbable that they would have allowed Australia to remain independent.
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Apr 26, 2016 04:57
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Australia was a Dominion at that point, not a Colony. While Ze Germans could have pressed territorial claims against British colonies it's doubtful they would have tried to take over independent (white) nations.
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Cartoon posted:I got through ANZAC day without seeing anything that disturbed me much. I can not fathom the AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI crowd though. ANZAC was a massive failure. Our forefathers wanted us to remember what it meant to follow a foreign master into a stupid conflict half way around the world. Want to remember and honour their memory? I got some eye rolls when I mentioned to my partner that the emphasis really should be (and perhaps used to be?) more on the absolute pointlessness and tragedy of war instead of the "Let's go to the pub and I guess it's just easier to eat up the nationalism without thinking too much about it.
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Where does the idea that Australia was an independent nation that went to fight in WW1 voluntarily come from? Australia was a British colony populated primarily by British subjects who fought for Britain. The war was a pointless tragedy, but I can't see any plausible scenario in which we could have avoided participating in it.
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Apr 26, 2016 05:04
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Whats really amusing is that there is zero attacks on our freedoms and way of life from external threats at all while most of the damage is coming from within with retarded policy and fear mongering.
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open24hours posted:Where does the idea that Australia was an independent nation that went to fight in WW1 voluntarily come from? Australia was a British colony populated primarily by British subjects who fought for Britain. The war was a pointless tragedy, but I can't see any plausible scenario in which we could have avoided participating in it. Federation was in 1901, WW1 started in 1914. While Australia was still part of the Empire it was no longer a colony. And all Australians who fought overseas were volunteers, conscription was never implemented during the war. https://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/conscription/ww1/
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open24hours posted:Where does the idea that Australia was an independent nation that went to fight in WW1 voluntarily come from? Misinformation and an apathy for the truth. edit: ^^ true, but politically Australia was still obligated. Would love to hear Mr Abbott's take on WW1 btw ("goodies vs baddies vs baddies vs goodies" ? )
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The soldiers were volunteers, I mean that the country as a whole 'volunteered' to participate in the war, as if it could have refused.
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Sweet, those 2800 submarine jobs some time towards the end of the next decade will totally make up for the 100k+ jobs lost in SA by the collapse of the car industry.
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open24hours posted:The soldiers were volunteers, I mean that the country as a whole 'volunteered' to participate in the war, as if it could have refused. Oh yeah the country was legally obligated to follow Britain's lead and frankly I doubt an attempt to stay neutral would have succeeded in the face of public opinion at the time. But the status of the country wasn't a colony, the Dominions were more like...very junior partners in the empire, who could handle oppressing their own natives instead of relying on Britain to do it for them.
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Boycott ch9 for funding international terrorism.
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Lol at Tara Whoever saying they were just journalists trying to do story. Trying to spin the "drat brownies hate journalistic freedom"
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thatbastardken posted:Oh yeah the country was legally obligated to follow Britain's lead and frankly I doubt an attempt to stay neutral would have succeeded in the face of public opinion at the time. But the status of the country wasn't a colony, the Dominions were more like...very junior partners in the empire, who could handle oppressing their own natives instead of relying on Britain to do it for them. I probably should have been more specific, although the dominions are/were (incorrectly?) referred to as self-governing colonies. https://books.google.com.au/books?i...0colony&f=false
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We will defend the mother country to the last man and the last shilling
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The Age/SMH had an article about another 60Min funded kidnapping, this one 'successful' involving another mother taking her child from their father in Turkey that never went to air but it's been taken down. Probably because the case is in the courts right now and has been since less than a week after it happened.
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Negligent posted:Remember to wear a helmet when you go for a ride on the footpath I always do. Also I have twice been hit by cars while riding on footpaths, one time of which my head hit the ground hard enough to break my helmet!  I've also been hit by a car while riding on the road in a quiet suburban street (no footpath) when a car decided "gently caress stopping at a stop sign on a blind corner I'ma just drive straight through". Didn't break my helmet that time, just a few ribs.
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hooman posted:I always do. Also I have twice been hit by cars while riding on footpaths, one time of which my head hit the ground hard enough to break my helmet!
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Which one of you goons is responsible for http://www.cycle-helmets.com
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The helmet wars aren't even about helmets anymore, it's just another means for authoritarians to flex their muscles and conflate arguments against helmets with libertarianism and guns for babies.
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I don't think you get to say others are making dumb claims on the same page you posit that WW1 was an existential threat to Australia
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What do you think would have happened to Australia if the British had lost WW1?
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We got to have German New Guinea, at Versailles p sweet deal
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Negligent posted:Which one of you goons is responsible for http://www.cycle-helmets.com Jesus christ someone really hates helmets.
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open24hours posted:What do you think would have happened to Australia if the British had lost WW1? Become a Republic.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/png-rules-detention-on-manus-island-illegal/7360078 Papua New Guinea's Supreme Court rules detention of asylum seekers on Manus Island is illegal Papua New Guinea's Supreme Court has ruled Australia's detention of asylum seekers on Manus Island is illegal. The five-man bench of the court ruled the detention breached the right to personal liberty in the PNG constitution. There are 850 men in the detention centre on Manus Island, about half of whom have been found to be refugees. The Supreme Court has ordered the PNG and Australian Governments to immediately take steps to end the detention of asylum seekers in PNG. 
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open24hours posted:What do you think would have happened to Australia if the British had lost WW1? 
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KAISER MANIA! Tonight AT 7PM on FOX KIDS
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Anidav posted:KAISER MANIA! RUNNIN WILD, BRUDER
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If ze Germans had won the war we would all be eating sauerkraut and getting around in Zeppelins now.
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SynthOrange posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/png-rules-detention-on-manus-island-illegal/7360078 Whoah. Is this as massive as it sounds?
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Lizard Combatant posted:Whoah. Is this as massive as it sounds? Its not like Australia has a long history of respecting the rule of law in PNG.
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You will never live in glorious steampunk German Australia.
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SynthOrange posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/png-rules-detention-on-manus-island-illegal/7360078 Png and australia reclassify refugees as independant contractors open24hours posted:What do you think would have happened to Australia if the British had lost WW1? We could have offloaded queensland The threat of surrendering northern australia up to the brisbane line to any invading force did more to protect australia than any me too adventurism
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