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pnutz posted:some more stuff from the voice actors Goblin Shaman reacts is great
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Greenskinz iz da best!  Also, are people really still pissing and moaning about Denuvo? MadJackMcJack fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Apr 26, 2016 |
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:Goblin Shaman reacts is great We'll devour you mate! That's too good.
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Apr 26, 2016 15:32
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Now that someone mentioned Tomb Kings, what are the odds they'll be full expansion or minor DLC - and will there be SETTRA DOES NOT KNEEL loving poo poo up?
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Apr 26, 2016 16:11
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Judging by the map the only factions that seem to be around Tomb Kings area (the Land of the Dead) are the Tomb Kings themselves and Araby. So they'd just need to push the existing map south a ways, add desert terrain, and maybe make a couple units to give Araby a unique look. It'd be cool if they could add them as a DLC race, but it's still a lot more work than just fleshing out Bretonnia or some other race that's already hanging out in the Old World.
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GuyUpNorth posted:Now that someone mentioned Tomb Kings, what are the odds they'll be full expansion or minor DLC - and will there be SETTRA DOES NOT KNEEL loving poo poo up? They have said they want to release another 2 standalone Warhammer games over the next 3 years that will then all link up in addition to all the DLC and FLC. Additionally they have said they wanted to eventually include every faction that had an army book. So between the two statements, and the fact that tombkings are off on their own geographically, I would suspect we will get them as part of a major release a few years from now.
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Apr 26, 2016 17:10
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Is Green Man Gaming still offering the game with a discount?
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Apr 26, 2016 19:49
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Rygar201 posted:Wasn't WHFB fairly profitable, just not as profitable as they wanted? It was, then they killed it, released age of sigmar, and now according to good sources that's doing absolutely terrible.
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Olive Branch posted:Is Green Man Gaming still offering the game with a discount? No they appear to have run out of cheaper codes. CDKeys.com are the only ones still doing it at a discount if you're willing to trust them.
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Tomn posted:You know what I bet would be successful? If Disney stopped making Star Wars movies or selling Star Wars merch but instead relied entirely on licensing fees from Star Wars video games. No costs, pure profit, surely this would make them more money than they've ever made before! Warhammer Fantasy miniatures didn't make much money. They had a huge line to maintain and stock and most of it sold sod all. Binning a 20 year old Knight Errant mould instead of making a new one is a net win for GW. Star Wars movies - afaik - sell more cinema tickets than copies of Battlefront III or whatever is out these days. Even then the property has gone through long periods of no films and lots of games in the past, keeping Lucas fat and satisfied while he pursued passion projects like that movie about black fighter pilots, and his new wife.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:28
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They're gonna piss away the huge Total War profits trying to revive The Lord of the Rings and the twelve people in the world that still care about it will be chuffed.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:31
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I'm one of those twelve, it was pretty good. I had fun with my little goblin mob.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:34
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It was good and they made so much money off it they overdeveloped their distribution infrastructure to the point that it almost killed the company when the movies stopped and interest disappeared.
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sassassin posted:Warhammer Fantasy miniatures didn't make much money. They had a huge line to maintain and stock and most of it sold sod all. Binning a 20 year old Knight Errant mould instead of making a new one is a net win for GW. So are you actively asserting that Warhammer Fantasy was literally unprofitable and/or on the verge of becoming outright unprofitable? Because that's the only scenario where "it costs a lot" matters - if it WAS profitable then it doesn't actually cost them anything to keep it going and in fact makes extra money for them over time and stands to gain more when the video game ties in. I mean, you COULD argue they needed to free up money for their hot new Age of Sigmar franchise, but lol if you want to argue that was a smart move. If you are arguing that Warhammer Fantasy was straight up unprofitable, BTW, I'd love to see your source.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:47
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I wish the game would come out so people would quit posting this boring bullshit
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Apr 26, 2016 20:53
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The profitable parts of Warhammer Fantasy are still in production.
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Speaking of LOTR, that interview I posted a few days ago with the horrible proof-reading really made it sound like CA wanted to continue doing fantasy games after Warhammer. LOTR is an obvious get, but I have to wonder what other fantasy series they've been trying to get deals for behind the scenes.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:59
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xn03XC4Gpg Here's an interview video. Audio is kinda jacked though.
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madmac posted:Speaking of LOTR, that interview I posted a few days ago with the horrible proof-reading really made it sound like CA wanted to continue doing fantasy games after Warhammer. LOTR is an obvious get, but I have to wonder what other fantasy series they've been trying to get deals for behind the scenes. Game of Thrones, maybe? Agent Overflow, The Game.
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Game of thrones would be a real poo poo Total War game since it's practically Medieval 2 with different names anyways and CA would be the worst company in the world to try to capture what's appealing about it Besides, the best GoT game has already been made, CK2
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I talked to my friend who works at a comic store and he says that Fantasy just didn't sell well. It made barely any money did GW so it came as a surprise to no-one when they killed the line. The real shocker was when they announced Age of Sigmar.
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Fans posted:No they appear to have run out of cheaper codes. CDKeys.com are the only ones still doing it at a discount if you're willing to trust them.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:I talked to my friend who works at a comic store and he says that Fantasy just didn't sell well. It made barely any money did GW so it came as a surprise to no-one when they killed the line. Cool anecdote bro. My local shops have all had thriving fantasy scenes, interestingly enough. GW is bad.
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Luminous Cow posted:I wish the game would come out so people would quit posting this boring bullshit 
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xn03XC4Gpg Not too much new, but interesting that you DO build "different kinds of Naval units", just that there's no tactical map or battles. I wonder if that means you are building various ship types, aside from "Combat Ship" and "Transport Ship". Granted the only two factions that NEED ships in this installment will be Bretonnia and the Empire for launching preemptive raids into Norsca but the variety would be nice.
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Tomn posted:So are you actively asserting that Warhammer Fantasy was literally unprofitable and/or on the verge of becoming outright unprofitable? Because that's the only scenario where "it costs a lot" matters - if it WAS profitable then it doesn't actually cost them anything to keep it going and in fact makes extra money for them over time and stands to gain more when the video game ties in. this is not at all how business works. if you have infrastructure that you are using for a product that is profiting you 3% and stagnating, if you think that you can use that infrastructure to revamp and making 6, you're going to do it. it doesn't have to be 'literally unprofitable' to be an inefficient use of capital
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I wonder when we'll get a video of battles against minor factions (Border Kings, Kislev, Tilea, Estalia, Norscan tribes), even if they have a limited AI-only rooster I am still curious as to what CA will cook for them.
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Do I have to wait for Tomb Kings before I see Nagash or is he VC and they're definitely making him the day-one DLC of the third game?
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Nagash isn't affiliated with either Tomb Kings or the Vampire Counts. He's also dead-ish until the End Times, when he is resurrected as a demi-god of undeath and kicks the Tomb Kings and VCs to the curb to create a unified Undead Legion with him at the helm.
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Sharzak posted:this is not at all how business works. if you have infrastructure that you are using for a product that is profiting you 3% and stagnating, if you think that you can use that infrastructure to revamp and making 6, you're going to do it. it doesn't have to be 'literally unprofitable' to be an inefficient use of capital Lol at applying logic to games workshop business policy
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Sharzak posted:this is not at all how business works. if you have infrastructure that you are using for a product that is profiting you 3% and stagnating, if you think that you can use that infrastructure to revamp and making 6, you're going to do it. it doesn't have to be 'literally unprofitable' to be an inefficient use of capital Reminder: GW literally brags that they do no market research and also have claimed that only 20% of their playerbase actually plays the game, the rest being collectors and people who are really into making the models, despite the aforementioned lack of market research. Do not assume GW has a plan for anything they do.
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well i mean that's literally what they did
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There's no definitive proof either way. The only difference is that people who don't like Games Workshop just like to shout louder about how that means fantasy might have been profitable. I've never touched a table top game in my life, but I know this, because the stupid argument somehow finds its way into way too many other corners of the Internet. At this point the people who hate Games Workshop have become just as annoying as the fans, because of how they constantly have to let everyone know how bad a company GW is at all times. Most people couldn't give a poo poo either way.
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It's the same as Monsanto, or EA, or BP. The difference is that GW and how GW is bad in particular is relevant to this thread. Edit: Monsanto might be a good example because they're competent. Evil, but competent.
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Sharzak posted:this is not at all how business works. if you have infrastructure that you are using for a product that is profiting you 3% and stagnating, if you think that you can use that infrastructure to revamp and making 6, you're going to do it. it doesn't have to be 'literally unprofitable' to be an inefficient use of capital In theory, yes. But in practice, the revamp in question was Age of Sigmar.
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MY UNCLE WHO WORKS AT GW SAYS THAT FANTASY WAS SUPER PROFITABLE BUT GW KILLED IT BECAUSE THE JEWS
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I haven't been into the miniatures side of GW for years, it's a bit sad how it seems to have fallen apart but Total Warhammer is the game I wanted ever since I first played Shogun. If people are desperate for a fix before then give a look at King Arthur 2, I remember them being not that bad as a kind of knock off Total War in a Fantasy universe. It's got a lot of problems, but I did love the Werewolf troops that could act as Infantry or Cavalry.
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:MY UNCLE WHO WORKS AT GW SAYS THAT FANTASY WAS SUPER PROFITABLE BUT GW KILLED IT BECAUSE THE JEWS Well all GW finances are publicly available. Unlike most trad game companies they're publicly traded. We know for sure that Fantasy was profitable but not hugely so. We also know that Age of Sigmar led to a loss of sales. We also also know that the last CEO wasted money left and right including a multi-million dollar pseudo embezzlement scheme that paid his wife to create a terrible website.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Well all GW finances are publicly available. Unlike most trad game companies they're publicly traded. We know for sure that Fantasy was profitable but not hugely so. We also know that Age of Sigmar led to a loss of sales. We also also know that the last CEO wasted money left and right including a multi-million dollar pseudo embezzlement scheme that paid his wife to create a terrible website. We also don't actually know why Age of Sigmar has had a problem with sales or if it will remain so. Is it not selling well because it's bad? I have no idea, and frankly, compared to their top competitors, Fantasy and 40k both had terrible rulesets anyway. Is it not selling well because Fantasy fans are butthurt? If so, what else should have been done? Is it not selling well because it has dozens of new competitors emerging practically every day that are cutting into GW customer base? I don't know the answer to any of these questions, and honestly, neither does anyone here, and besides, this is a thread about Total War: Warhammer, which is taking place under the auspices of the old franchise anyway, so who the gently caress cares and why does this stupid conversation keep happening?* *because nerds live on hate
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Shumagorath posted:Do I have to wait for Tomb Kings before I see Nagash or is he VC and they're definitely making him the day-one DLC of the third game? Nagash is already in the game. He is in Azhag's helmet, whispering in his ear. Terrible Opinions posted:We also also know that the last CEO wasted money left and right including a multi-million dollar pseudo embezzlement scheme that paid his wife to create a terrible website.
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