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It's like every election the LNP releases the winged monkey astroturfers.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 13:28 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 13:13 |
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Julie Bishop is only up 82.4% she must be being more frugal.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 13:29 |
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For a party of fiscal responsibility they sure like buying fake friends
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 13:33 |
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Whose vote would possibly be swayed by how many likes a pollie has? Or is this more about gaming the FB news system so they come up as suggested posts and the like more often?
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 13:38 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Whose vote would possibly be swayed by how many likes a pollie has? It could be that, but I think it's more blocking off a weakness. It's really easy to say 'X politician is unpopular' when they're very clearly, by discrete figures, unpopular on social media.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 13:43 |
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Sticko posted:Housing market to drop 30% during June, handing LNP a massive election loss. Actually yeah, if things are going to dip then the best bet would be before the election. Incredibly unlikely it will though. As satisfying as a drop in prices would be, I think the overall best long term situation would be a slow drop in growth that leads to long term stagnation in prices, giving inflation a little time to catch up.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 14:13 |
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Wouldn't headlines about pollies buying facebook likes be way more damaging than one using loving facebook likes as evidence of unpopularity?
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 14:15 |
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It's hard to believe how lovely Malcolm Turnbull is at coming up with a clear message Like say what you want about Abbott but he mastered the three word slogan Except that time his brain broke
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 14:30 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wouldn't headlines about pollies buying facebook likes be way more damaging than one using loving facebook likes as evidence of unpopularity? I think the LNP have the corporate mentality where they just do whatever a PR consultant tells them, and the PR consultant is largely making poo poo up on the spot without having to think it through because the paycheck is the same whether they're right or not.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 14:45 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wouldn't headlines about pollies buying facebook likes be way more damaging than one using loving facebook likes as evidence of unpopularity? You're assuming two things there. A: That most Australian politicians, in particular the LNP, are capable of thinking more than one turn ahead. And B: That any outlets they'll pay any attention to would even run that story. I don't think either of them are true.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 15:04 |
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Cleretic posted:You're assuming two things there. I remember last election or the one before it Abbott got caught out buying twitter followers when someone noticed he got a huge spike in them from Iceland or somewhere ridiculous. So B's a definite possibility.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 15:24 |
I have to ask. Can people who post facebook links either quote the content or screencap it for those of us who refuse to touch facebook. Quoting or screencapping also hedges against the comments being deleted (This bit also applies to twitter stuff).
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 15:33 |
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Pickled Tink posted:I have to ask. how do you do anything in your life without facebook
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 15:40 |
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So, how many election cycles until the "we can't afford a house because of your idiotic tax policies" demographic outweighs the "haha, you should have bought a house in 2001 like we did, gently caress you" crowd?
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:26 |
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LibertyCat posted:So, how many election cycles until the "we can't afford a house because of your idiotic tax policies" demographic outweighs the "haha, you should have bought a house in 2001 like we did, gently caress you" crowd? 3-4 federally. If the inability to purchase housing doesn't turn around for the current and future people of working age then eventually house prices end up stagnating for a long period of time as purchasing power catches up, or even worse they all start to be bought by people or companies that can afford it.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:33 |
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dr_rat posted:If you read Atlas shrugged upside down and back to front, does it suddenly turn into a good book? Well it would no longer make any sense if you read it upside down and back to front, so that's an improvement.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:36 |
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Les Affaires posted:Lionhjelm wrote a piece in the AFR today proposing an alternative budget. There is no such way this picture can be real, you are jerkin' my chain
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:37 |
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It looks really lame if a politician only has like 500 friends. And these people buy friends anyway, how do you think they got people to talk to them at school.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:50 |
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Pickled Tink posted:I have to ask. Can you watch youtube? I certainly hope so https://youtu.be/R47G-v8akG0
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:51 |
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I mean bill shorten somehow got Nicola roxon to sleep with him and it probably wasn't his good looks that did the trick
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:54 |
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It was his big caucus
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:54 |
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Pickled Tink posted:I have to ask. It's a Facebook video, so I don't think that's possible. Gist of it is, real dashing and gorgeous white supremacist Blair Cotrell does not like when women with colourful hair get photographed, because that's a Jewish thing or whatever
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 17:02 |
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Idiot political journalism corner: This column by Sarah Ferguson demonstrates how useless the media are around politics now. In the very first paragraph she uses a practically medieval term the body politic as a reason why parties who change PMs are BAD. Ferguson is a noteworthy investigative journalist, but this article is a load of guff seemingly angled to push a book (coyly pictured in a sidebar). Oh yes, how dumb the ALP were but it's too early to tell for the Libs. Give me a break. Maybe there's a problem when the media insist on treating PMs like American Presidents when they are just the chosen representative of their party. Which, not coincidentally, is why they aren't even mentioned in the loving Constitution. Her conclusion is that the electorate don't like backstabbers, but even she has to admit that the real issue might be meaningless power: quote:Most in the ALP believe the leaks against Julia Gillard cost Labor the 2010 election, but former UK Labour MP and Gillard adviser Alan Milburn said there was another, more potent reason why voters rejected a political party that had triumphed three years earlier: Note she takes care to have someone else quoted as saying that. "Balance", you see or perhaps it's "fear of canberra press gallery opinion". The elephant in the room is government achievements, the ability despite upheaval to govern. Simply not mentioned in the case of the ALP and "too early to say" for the Libs. I hope it wasn't her CPG entrance exam, oh wait they'll love it, she's just like them. Idiot politician corner: Assclown Turnbull on abc24 this morning: "Defence is at the leading edge of innovation and technology". Cool, so we're building our own subs then...oh. No. We're paying someone else to do the innovative technology of killing people.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 22:39 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I remember last election or the one before it Abbott got caught out buying twitter followers when someone noticed he got a huge spike in them from Iceland or somewhere ridiculous. So B's a definite possibility. Pretty sure we made B happen and a bunch of LNP trolls flocked to some goons blog to call his statistics biased.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 22:57 |
Was Murodese wasn't it?
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 23:06 |
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I think so...? He ran some algorithm on Tony's Facebook page in 2013 and found that he was gaining a consistent and clearly computer run number of likes per second and each day had a extremely similar ramp up and ramp down time. This election they seem to be doing it for the entire front bench except Joyce who is down 87.2%. Lol
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 23:15 |
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Negligent posted:It's hard to believe how lovely Malcolm Turnbull is at coming up with a clear message Turnbull was hesitant and unsure of his message last night on 730, especially when Leigh asked him what the other 20 odd million are supposed to do when he's trying to convince the 1-2 million investors that he isn't going to do something about negative gearing. You could see part of Turnbull's brain wanted to go to slogan territory, but he kept on screwing that up
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 23:32 |
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That perception that Turnbull isn't connected to the general electorate is incredibly damaging: if they turn off on him, the others are doomed. That shot of a sad little Pyne riding hopefully on Turnbull's coattails as he announced the French deal says it all. Yes subs are being built in Adelaide, and the bulk of the money is flying off overseas, again. A fact not lost on his constituents.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 23:43 |
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Labor would introduce carbon market, pledge deeper carbon cuts if electedSMH posted:A Shorten Labor government would slash carbon emissions by significantly more than the Turnbull-led Coalition by 2030, introduce a broad-based emissions trading scheme, and block states like NSW and Queensland from expanding land clearing. I am glad to see Labor bring another policy out that I could get behind. I am still going to be holding my nose when I preference them over the Liberals, but the fact that they are bringing out some solid policies will make it much easier. As far as I can see those targets seem fine, especially if they were the ones proposed by the CCA. Have we heard anything else about Sunday penalty rates?
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:26 |
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ABC24 ticker "Malcolm Turnbull says income of those negative-gearing is irrelevant" you loving wish Mal.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:33 |
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How does the libertarian wing reconcile their libertarianism with negative gearing?
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:45 |
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Turnbull appears confused as gently caress. What happens when he goes into debates and goes off about negative gearing?
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:54 |
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El Scotch posted:How does the libertarian wing reconcile their libertarianism with negative gearing? They profit from it therefore it is good
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:55 |
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Shorten is standing on a good policy platform while Turnbull is standing on Abbott's shoulders
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:55 |
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Standing on the shoulders of midgets.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 01:03 |
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ewe2 posted:ABC24 ticker "Malcolm Turnbull says income of those negative-gearing is irrelevant" you loving wish Mal. Pretty ironic if you replace negative gearing with any other kind of government handout. El Scotch posted:How does the libertarian wing reconcile their libertarianism with negative gearing? fygm
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 01:41 |
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John Daley comprehensively smacks Turnbull down on his criticism of their report:quote:The Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, yesterday wrote a detailed blogpost in reply to our report, Hot property: negative gearing and capital gains tax reform. It's good that a Prime Minister engages with the detail of policy argument rather than responding with slogans. But none of his criticisms stick. That's the ballgame.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 01:53 |
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WRT rents going up, is the argument that without negative gearing, becoming a landlord is therefore less profitable, and a higher rental price is required because there is simply less incentive to be a landlord? Thats the only argument I can see making any sense. I mean even if prices dropped, my partner and I probably still couldnt afford to buy, so we would (and I imagine a lot of others) still be renters seeking a place. So to say that renters would then be able to afford a home and therefore stop renting (and further, reducing rental demand) doesnt add up. I suppose maybe in the long term once all us renters have saved up deposits you would see the shift, but short term it feels like prices would go up as the benefit to having cheap (lol) rent to negatively gear the property is now gone.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 02:55 |
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Laserface posted:WRT rents going up, is the argument that without negative gearing, becoming a landlord is therefore less profitable, and a higher rental price is required because there is simply less incentive to be a landlord? If the landlord has no desire to be a landlord anymore, then they will sell and the buyer will be an owner-occupier (meaning there is one less renter in the market) or another landlord, meaning that the property will still be for rent. In any case, have a nice video of Miranda Devine going off at Andrew Bolt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-4Xlgpj6Qg
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 03:25 |
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If prices drop, as MT suggests, then rent only has to stay where it is for rental yields to increase for new investors.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 03:31 |