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necrobobsledder posted:I'm a tad bummed out that it didn't come with 8x DIMM slots though because functionally it's not all that different from the mini ITX Xeon Ds out besides the addition of the SAS controller. Isn't 4 DIMMs a limitation of the Xeon-D platform so that they don't cannibalize E5 xeon sales too badly? The bigger Xeon-Ds look pretty drat favorable vs a E5-2630L v4 or similar. It looks like officially all the Xeon-D max out at 128GB RAM.
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necrobobsledder posted:The uATX board seems like an interesting approach for a storage + compute server if you're tight on aggregate space for a build and want 10GbE (those don't look like SFP+ connections, so that's iffy on whether you'll get 10GbE really anyway). They actually have several different versions of the board for any networking combo you want; 2x 10g, 2x 1g, 2x SFP+, 2x 10g and 2x SFP+
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I'm going to be cross posting with the main PC thread a bit but I thought I'd get my ducks in a row here first. I'd like to re-purpose my soon-to-be 5 year old PC as a Plex NAS when I upgrade my main one. Currently working with: -i7-2600K -32 GB DDR3 @ 798MHz (10-10-10-27) which I may carry over to my new build if its compatible -P67A-D3-B3 (Socket 1155) Mobo (6 SATA slots) -4TB, 3TB, 2TB Seagate, 3 x 2TB WD Greens. Might replace some of the 2TBs or just add some more drives Power supply is the only thing I'm going to replace, so it doesn't take my system down when it dies. I'm having difficulty on deciding what to use for an OS/RAID solution due to the need to transcode with Plex. I'd rather my family/friends not be hitting my main system's CPU and instead re-purpose the 2600K. It seems like some sort of RAID solution on Windows Server or Linux would be best since their actual NAS OS options are limited to commercial hardware except for unRaid. Any and all suggestions are welcome. 
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EconOutlines posted:I'm going to be cross posting with the main PC thread a bit but I thought I'd get my ducks in a row here first. I'd like to re-purpose my soon-to-be 5 year old PC as a Plex NAS when I upgrade my main one. You're not really limited to commercial hardware (if by that you mean enterprise) on Linux. I run a CentOS 6 home built NAS with MDADM RAID6 on off the shelf hardware. For your situation where you have different sized disks, you're probably best off using a Linux distro with Snapraid. I've used Snapraid in my set up before and it's pretty good, handles everything from the command line or cronjobs. Basically set your largest disks as parity and put your data on the remaining disks. If you lose a disk you only lose the data on the one disk, and with Snapraid, you can get that data back by replacing the disk and running a command to rebuild the disk. It also only spins up the needed disks for your operations as opposed to a traditional RAID where all disks are spinning. It's also free unlike unRaid or other solutions. It also runs on Windows in the event you want to go with a Windows OS. It's what I'd recommend for this situation.
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Nulldevice posted:You're not really limited to commercial hardware (if by that you mean enterprise) on Linux. I run a CentOS 6 home built NAS with MDADM RAID6 on off the shelf hardware. For your situation where you have different sized disks, you're probably best off using a Linux distro with Snapraid. I've used Snapraid in my set up before and it's pretty good, handles everything from the command line or cronjobs. Basically set your largest disks as parity and put your data on the remaining disks. If you lose a disk you only lose the data on the one disk, and with Snapraid, you can get that data back by replacing the disk and running a command to rebuild the disk. It also only spins up the needed disks for your operations as opposed to a traditional RAID where all disks are spinning. It's also free unlike unRaid or other solutions. It also runs on Windows in the event you want to go with a Windows OS. It's what I'd recommend for this situation. All of this is good, but for your setup, I'd suggest getting another 4tb drive so you can have 2 parity drives with Snapraid. After that, you can gradually swap out the remaining 3tb & 2tb drives as they die with 4tb ones as you feel makes sense.
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Skandranon posted:All of this is good, but for your setup, I'd suggest getting another 4tb drive so you can have 2 parity drives with Snapraid. After that, you can gradually swap out the remaining 3tb & 2tb drives as they die with 4tb ones as you feel makes sense. Good call on the secondary parity. It has been a while since I really had gotten into Snapraid, so it's multiple parity disk capabilities were somewhat forgotten. Can have up to what...6 now?
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Nulldevice posted:Good call on the secondary parity. It has been a while since I really had gotten into Snapraid, so it's multiple parity disk capabilities were somewhat forgotten. Can have up to what...6 now? At least 4 can be set up through Elucidate (https://elucidate.codeplex.com/), and I think that's just a UI thing, you can do more via the command line. I'm currently running with 2.
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Is there a NAS+firmware that gives proper access to smb.conf or something similar so that my Macs don't poo poo up the place with their dot files? Seems like my current WD NAS doesn't have proper support for it (resets on reboot).
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EconOutlines posted:I'm going to be cross posting with the main PC thread a bit but I thought I'd get my ducks in a row here first. I'd like to re-purpose my soon-to-be 5 year old PC as a Plex NAS when I upgrade my main one. XPenology has a Plex plugin that appears to work like a champ for me.
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Seagate plans to cut production by 30%. HDD prices are only going to go up. 
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AlternateAccount posted:XPenology has a Plex plugin that appears to work like a champ for me. Yep. Plex works great on xpenology. Just make sure jumbo frames are turned off.
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Shaocaholica posted:Is there a NAS+firmware that gives proper access to smb.conf or something similar so that my Macs don't poo poo up the place with their dot files? Seems like my current WD NAS doesn't have proper support for it (resets on reboot). I do this on my macs: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2005070300463515 $ defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores true May not be a solution for you if you've got lots of users, but for me this was an easy solution.
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ILikeVoltron posted:I do this on my macs: And what works for you? Is it sticky? After OS updates? I just feel like a NAS side solution is much more robust.
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Shaocaholica posted:And what works for you? Is it sticky? After OS updates? I just feel like a NAS side solution is much more robust. Well, it is a client issue to be honest so fixing it at the client makes sense imo.
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Even if DSDontWriteNetworkStores was sticky and a run-once per client 'fix', it still wouldn't solve the issue of people creating files/dirs on local storage first and copying them all recursively to network storage. That should still copy over all those dot files. So manual work arounds don't really exist and hoping for Apple come up with a better solution isn't really realistic. Pretty sure most companies solve this on the host side with their enterprise network storage if they have Macs in the ecosystem.
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Is this helpful? https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages/smb.conf.5.html#VETOFILES
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Shaocaholica posted:And what works for you? Is it sticky? After OS updates? I just feel like a NAS side solution is much more robust. I've run the command once, and since then no new DS Files have shown up, this was a few years ago, but I'm not sure it crosses major OS upgrade as I'm still on Yosemite.
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From what I understand that command only stops the .ds_files from being created. Applications may still create their own resource fork type files. You need to use the veto config options on samba. But the original question asked which nas let you do that. I know freenas does, but you don't edit the smb4.conf. You add it in the gui.
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Thanks. Not ready to roll my own freenas yet. Anything prebuilt from a reliable company?
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Shaocaholica posted:Thanks. Not ready to roll my own freenas yet. Anything prebuilt from a reliable company? FreeNAS themselves sell prebuilt units. Pricey though, but small.
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Synology NASes let you set a list of veto files for the SMB sharing service.
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Overstock.com would be fine for warranty purposes for Synology right? http://www.overstock.com/Electronic...OBA&searchidx=0 Haven't done much homework yet but any reason not to get the DS1515+ for home use? My initial thoughts are that it has lots of bays for expansion, internal power supply.
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As long as you dont need plex transcoding its a great unit. Tons of power.
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Don Lapre posted:As long as you dont need plex transcoding its a great unit. Tons of power. I never got into real time transcoding. I've always streamed the native files for any media. Is the whole point to be able to watch stuff on a device that does not support the native format? Seems like that's easily solved by getting a new playback device than trying to get your nas or file share system to transcode it in realtime.
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Shaocaholica posted:I never got into real time transcoding. I've always streamed the native files for any media. Is the whole point to be able to watch stuff on a device that does not support the native format? Seems like that's easily solved by getting a new playback device than trying to get your nas or file share system to transcode it in realtime. Yes. Its for devices that do not support the native format. Like maybe phones, or tivos, or rokus. It can also be used though for streaming over cellular connections where bandwidth may be limited.
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No need to buy an entire new device for every viewer on your server if you can just transcode. Plus plenty of media formats are not supported natively on most devices
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Get a Smart TV with a Plex player front end. Transcoding problem solved! All kidding aside, while the "I want to stream TV shows from home over a cell connection while I travel" bit makes sense to me, how many people otherwise actually watch plex stuff on random iPhones or other crappy devices which have crappy enough software ecosystems to not have decent native file support one way or another? I mean, one way or another you can shoe-horn just about any file type "natively" onto an Android device, same with anything Windows or Linux based, so what does that leave?
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I guess I'm a bit of a video snob. My setup is mostly Popcorn hour devices which can play native and a Kodi box which is also native. On iOS I use Infuse which is also native. Never really thought to use a console or TV as the player. Just never liked their interfaces from the small sampling I've had.
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Office Depot has 3tb reds for $79.99 884738 is sku http://slickdeals.net/?lno=1&trd=ht...ory_checker.php
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DrDork posted:Get a Smart TV with a Plex player front end. Transcoding problem solved! This requires having to think ahead about what you will want to watch and being able to know just how much time you're going to be wanting to watch. It's easier for most/many/some people to just stream.
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What's a decent 'on sale' price I can expect on 6tb reds?
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Shaocaholica posted:What's a decent 'on sale' price I can expect on 6tb reds? The cheapest they've ever been on Amazon is $229. They're currently $239
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Thermopyle posted:This requires having to think ahead about what you will want to watch and being able to know just how much time you're going to be wanting to watch.
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DrDork posted:But that's entirely my question: what devices are people using that actually require transcoding streaming (other than those utilizing cell connections), vice have some option for robust native file support through a Plex front end and potentially a decoder software package? I didn't not understand your question to mean this. It's not entirely uncommon for people to have videos require audio transcoding because they have DTS-SUPERMAXX-MEGA audio encoding.
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DrDork posted:Get a Smart TV with a Plex player front end. Transcoding problem solved! What devices have native 10bit h.264 support with .rear end/.ssa subtitles? Plus I use mine to keep track of my progress, too
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PerrineClostermann posted:What devices have native 10bit h.264 support with .rear end/.ssa subtitles? AFAIK, Kodi which is not a device but is kind of like one after the initial setup.
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Thermopyle posted:It's not entirely uncommon for people to have videos require audio transcoding because they have DTS-SUPERMAXX-MEGA audio encoding.
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