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An Angry Bug posted:Gee, maybe their political gain involves things that benefit you after a while? And just a guess here, but did you grow up in the 80s? And, no, I didn't. The unions weren't magically A-OK in the 70s, they just weren't as reviled because most people still remembered a time when unions were a useful and beneficial tool to union members. Since the 70s, union members have increasingly regarded the union as oppressive and useless - and it didn't start with people born in the 80s. Khisanth Magus posted:So are we objecting to US unions donating and supporting to the Democratic Party here or something else? Because, honestly, I'm not sure how you can blame unions for supporting one party when the other has spent the past 3 decades demonizing unions and attempting to eliminate them. go3 posted:I'd rather take my chances with a US union than a US corporation
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Thanatosian posted:Because it is a system designed to be as confusing as possible to employees in order to keep them from realizing what a poo poo system it is for them. It is not "a system" it is literally two entirely separate unrelated things, the only thing in common is that they're both employment-related. How are people not confusing at will with vacation time? or right to work with maternity leave? or with lunch breaks, AAAH. That is in fact poo poo that pisses me off. Also pissing me off is finding out we have a bunch of websites hosted on one host, with the domain on another host, and the actual zone file on a third, different host. Adding points of failure is not redundancy.
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Apr 26, 2016 19:51
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Collateral Damage posted:To be fair neither do a lot of people calling themselves web designers. We're a small ~100 person company and if the job description says 'maintain and developer xyz company and related websites' I don't think it's out of the ordinary to have someone who knows a little bit of HTML/CSS and can wrestle around with a CMS. The last kid they had knew just enough to cut and paste some Javascript. I don't mind helping out or giving technical advice but I don't want to be doing 90% of the web poo poo here.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:10
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Hey Bob, can you make it so Kevin can log on to Todd's computer and Todd can logon to Kevin's computer? Sure...why? Oh we want to cross train them. Okay Hey Bob, can you set it up so Kevin can get his email on Todd's computer? And Todd can get his email on Kevin's computer? Uhh sure...here's how you can use OWA Hey Bob, can you set it up so Kevin can use Todd's extension and Todd can WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY YOU WANTED TO SWITCH THEIR DESKS 3 WEEKS AGO?
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Apr 26, 2016 20:54
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Company that rescheduled my phone interview 3-4 times has now rescheduled my in person interview twice. gently caress them I'm out. Sounds like a cool job but not worth getting jerked around like this, plus its for a marketing company. I can only imagine all of the stupid poo poo that would go down in a company ran by marketers.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:01
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Bob Morales posted:WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY YOU WANTED TO SWITCH THEIR DESKS 3 WEEKS AGO? Similarly, I have a few customers that seem to love to constantly move their users around the building. There's a name in the ticket I have open right now that I know I've moved to five different phones since January. These are VoIP phones. The config is tied to the phone. We've told them many times that they can just pick up the phone and move it, the extension will follow. Hell, we can set up hoteling and the extension can be wherever the user wants to be at that very minute. Nope, for whatever reason they want extensions to always stay at a certain desk even though people don't.
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Apr 26, 2016 23:04
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Arsten posted:That hasn't happened, though. Chicago or New York aren't bastions of labors' power over corporations. If anything, unions are so adversarial that corporations are over-cautious and adversarial to the employees as a result. Distorting everything into a power struggle and an "Us or Them!" situation makes everything shittier all the way around. you're really white-knighting corporations in the US ooooook
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Apr 27, 2016 00:14
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go3 posted:you're really white-knighting corporations in the US Don't be a giant idiot. There has been some really oppressive/corrupt unions just like there has been some oppressive/corrupt companies. The same is also on the good side of the coin too. Saying unions can be poo poo isn't white knighting anyone.
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Apr 27, 2016 00:21
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go3 posted:you're really white-knighting corporations in the US A verbal attack on unions does not automatically constitute a defense of corporations, they could both be bad in their own way. The core idea behind unions was the individual workers banding together against the much larger corporations. When the union becomes a large corporation in itself, it starts behaving like one. If I'm anti-Trump I'm not automatically pro-Cruz, you feel me?
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Apr 27, 2016 00:25
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go3 posted:you're really white-knighting corporations in the US Choose: Cut off your right arm or cut off your left arm and left toes. Oh, so you really hate people having appendages, don't you? Oooooook. Having poo poo and being required to deal with it doesn't mean you should put up with just as much poo poo from somewhere else on top of the original poo poo pile.
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Apr 27, 2016 00:52
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Id rather err on the side of an individual than the needs of megacorp Contoso.
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Apr 27, 2016 00:58
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Tab8715 posted:Id rather err on the side of an individual than the needs of megacorp Contoso. So do I, which is why I recommend you don't deal with two corporations working in concert to screw you for their mutual gain and instead deal with one lovely one just long enough to move into a company that values you.
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Apr 27, 2016 01:00
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Unions are inherently Democratic organizations unlike an actual Company.
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Tab8715 posted:Unions are inherently Democratic organizations unlike an actual Company. Hahahahahahaha
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Tab8715 posted:Unions are inherently Democratic organizations unlike an actual Company. Not true. Many companies, especially those located in predominantly D areas, are D by nature. Companies, for instance, that are moving to Dallas from California are "turning the area blue". That wouldn't happen if they were apolitical.
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Apr 27, 2016 01:35
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Arsten posted:Not true. Many companies, especially those located in predominantly D areas, are D by nature. Companies, for instance, that are moving to Dallas from California are "turning the area blue". That wouldn't happen if they were apolitical. I don't think he was referring to political parties, but rather the concept of democracy, where everyone gets a say.
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Apr 27, 2016 02:03
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RFC2324 posted:I don't think he was referring to political parties, but rather the concept of democracy, where everyone gets a say. Thank you. If anyone's up for starting a Unionization Thread in D&D I'm all up for it otherwise it's Scope Creep.
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Apr 27, 2016 02:07
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SubjectVerbObject posted:Pissing me off. Agent desktop software gets installed this week. It's so exciting! We get to login to our phones and take calls! Nothing feels better than the day you realize you will no longer ever have to log in to your agent ID again. I don't know your situation, but generally it doesn't get better with call taking responsibilities. You may want to find another position within your company or elsewhere.
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Apr 27, 2016 02:26
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Pissing me off: the people who maintain our central build image. 18 months ago: "Yeah, we know you have specialised hardware requirements that other departments don't. Shoot us the drivers and we'll put them in the image." Now: "RAAARGH NO NEW DRIVERS FOR YOU STOP BUYING WEIRD MACHINES!" Fucker you provide a service to the rest of the organization. Why not pretend like you understand that and do your goddamn job before I gut you with a fish-hook
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Apr 27, 2016 11:19
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RFC2324 posted:I don't think he was referring to political parties, but rather the concept of democracy, where everyone gets a say. Tab8715 posted:Thank you. That is technically true, but the command-placement structure means nothing when the top does what it wants. See: US Congress and it's approval rating doing nothing to dissuade unpopular law.
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Apr 27, 2016 13:40
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DigitalRaven posted:
On the other hand, gently caress end users that ceaselessly come up with ridiculous one off solutions that expect instantaneous fixes every time something goes tits. 
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Arsten posted:That is technically true, but the command-placement structure means nothing when the top does what it wants. See: US Congress and it's approval rating doing nothing to dissuade unpopular law. Luckily union leadership doesn't have things like gerrymandering to allow for a minority of people to hold an overwhelming majority of control!
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Apr 27, 2016 14:35
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"Here's a project, it's had about four other developers and has a setup by an outsourced worked who has pretty weird taste, there's no spec or scope to the project, but there's heaps of PDFs of how it'll look".
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poo poo pissing me off: Seeing D&D spill into the SHSC. Also some bitchy user takes took twenty minutes out of their day to tell me that they werent going to waste their time with some training video that got posted on our website. #1 I just uploaded it to the site as required, I dont give a poo poo if you watch it or not. As soon as I posted it and made it available my involvement was over. #2 if you are complaining about not having enough time why are you calling me to talk about this poo poo for 20 minutes. I repeated over and over I dont care if you watch it! I just posted it. You dont stop your paperboy and yell at him for 20 minutes because he delivered some news you dont like.
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Apr 27, 2016 14:43
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PBS posted:Nothing feels better than the day you realize you will no longer ever have to log in to your agent ID again. I am a PBX support engineer that does high touch support for Fortune 500 companies. My main customer pays 1/3 or our total income. The purpose of being made an agent is so we engineers can back up the tier 1 folks when they get too busy. I spent my time on the helpdesk and have not been an agent for years. Additionally, I support call center technology, so I see what it can do, how invasive it is, and how our customers churn agents, so I am none too happy about this.
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The only direct interaction I have with unions being in IT is when we were carrying some servers into a shop one time, right after we got to the door some guy ran up to us screaming and yelling. They had to go get two union guys to carry the equipment through the shop to the server room for us, if you weren't union you couldn't touch it.
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Bob Morales posted:The only direct interaction I have with unions being in IT is when we were carrying some servers into a shop one time, right after we got to the door some guy ran up to us screaming and yelling. They had to go get two union guys to carry the equipment through the shop to the server room for us, if you weren't union you couldn't touch it. I've had to deal with that several times. "Does your union contract have rates set for handling computers?" *blank stare* "Then this isn't covered by the union contract. Hands off." will generally get around that....But it failed once when the contract actually specified computer equipment, though.  Khisanth Magus posted:Luckily union leadership doesn't have things like gerrymandering to allow for a minority of people to hold an overwhelming majority of control!
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Apr 27, 2016 17:13
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:This morning our hands-on tech, instead of installing an application, just told a user the domain admin password so they could do it themselves. Person deserves to be fired over that poo poo. Anyone that overheard that can do anything. Are you positive it was domain admin and not a local admin? I've given the unique local admin password to a user before for a machine (and then changed it) because I couldn't remote into the machine and I needed them to change some settings to let me do exactly that.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:25
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Not pissing me off today: this afternoon and tomorrow afternoon my group is having parties to celebrate our big release this weekend, so no real work either afternoon, just booze and bowling.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:35
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Not pissing me off today: we have been using my best friend for some contracting programming work for the project I am on, and the company is flying him out for a week at the end of next month! I haven't seen him in person in almost a year!
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Apr 27, 2016 17:46
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Sales reps: Don't email me and claim that we just spoke on the phone. I have no idea who you are.
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Apr 27, 2016 21:41
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Thanks Ants posted:Sales reps: Don't email me and claim that we just spoke on the phone. I have no idea who you are. Our call center knows "... and he's expecting my call" is the one-way ticket to voicemail hell.
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We're looking to finally automate our patching and I am pushing for it so loving hard. The specific software we're trialing is ManageEngine Desktop Central and it seems pretty solid but right now our monthly patching is literally "Walk to every single computer in the office (two floors) and manually run Windows Update" which is loving hair-pullingly impossible to keep track of.
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Inspector_666 posted:We're looking to finally automate our patching and I am pushing for it so loving hard. The specific software we're trialing is ManageEngine Desktop Central and it seems pretty solid but right now our monthly patching is literally "Walk to every single computer in the office (two floors) and manually run Windows Update" which is loving hair-pullingly impossible to keep track of. Why the gently caress would you just not use wsus and group policy?
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Sickening posted:Why the gently caress would you just not use wsus and group policy? gently caress if I know. Desktop Central lets us do a lot of stuff beyond just patching (SCCM-esque stuff) but the fact that we weren't using WSUS is something I have been pretty rage-y at since I started here. EDIT: If the licensing for this doesn't get approved I am pretty much gonna make an ultimatum about WSUS, though. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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WSUS and a quick group policy change are all you need. I've demoed ManagedEngine and the one thing it has over WSUS is 3rd party app patching. Thats it pretty much. Just save yourself a bunch of time and money and setup WSUS. It's quick to do, you could have it all setup in an afternoon.
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Just don't have it auto-approve anything except for servers and your test group. Yes, servers. Set your gpo to option 3 (download and notify) for normal settings, switch the GPO to option 4 a day before you patch. And don't forget to switch it back after you're done. Desktops don't get auto approval, but they are configured to auto install daily. When I want to patch desktops I go through and manually approve late in the afternoon.
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