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Serious post: AoS with points will be a better game than 40k.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:29
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fnordcircle posted:Serious post: 
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Apr 27, 2016 19:32
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As bad as 40k is, I seriously doubt that. AoS already has formations, "roll to see if you roll" rules, a complete refusal to use universal special rules, and even-shittier-than-40k attack mechanics. It does everything 40k does wrong and then adds some new busted poo poo for flavor.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:32
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40K doesn't have chariot drifting. Checkmate. e: Oh wait...it does have hosed up tiny wolves. Hmmm
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Apr 27, 2016 19:41
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At least with AoS I didn't have to constantly refer back to a rulebook. If the rules are going to be poo poo I prefer them to at least be minimal.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:41
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Avenging Dentist posted:As bad as 40k is, I seriously doubt that. AoS already has formations, "roll to see if you roll" rules, a complete refusal to use universal special rules, and even-shittier-than-40k attack mechanics. It does everything 40k does wrong and then adds some new busted poo poo for flavor. Don't forget the ability to randomly take multiple turns in a row!
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Apr 27, 2016 19:41
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Chill la Chill posted:40K doesn't have chariot drifting. Checkmate. Yes it does. There are no rules for facing in 40k so you can forge your narrative and have your little guys moonwalk everywhere if you want.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:45
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Avenging Dentist posted:Yes it does. There are no rules for facing in 40k so you can forge your narrative and have your little guys moonwalk everywhere if you want. Vehicles do...
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Apr 27, 2016 19:50
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TKIY posted:Vehicles do... True, but I think you can still move them sideways if you wanna. I only have the 4th ed rules, but there's nothing that says they can't powerslide everywhere.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:02
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Avenging Dentist posted:As bad as 40k is, I seriously doubt that. AoS already has formations, "roll to see if you roll" rules, a complete refusal to use universal special rules, and even-shittier-than-40k attack mechanics. It does everything 40k does wrong and then adds some new busted poo poo for flavor. How does 30k fit into this hierarchy of badness? I keep reading how much better than 40k it is, but isn't it just 40k with everything but Marines removed? Or is it better because formations haven't made their way there yet? I guess what I'm asking is on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is AoS, 2 is 40k and 10 is self harming is 30k also a number 2 (lol) or is it better because of the bad resin marines?.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:03
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Remember when we wondered if all that lead would have a long term impact on the mental health of their upper mangement?
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Apr 27, 2016 20:04
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richyp posted:How does 30k fit into this hierarchy of badness? I keep reading how much better than 40k it is, but isn't it just 40k with everything but Marines removed? Or is it better because formations haven't made their way there yet? I've never played it because I'm not a total idiot but I'd say it's only better than 40k if you were exclusively playing marines vs marines already. Like if you have an Ork army, what the gently caress are you gonna do? Sure, you could have them count as marines, but that's just stupid. The only other reason I can think of to play 30k is if you're so emotionally invested in Warhammer that you can't imagine dropping it and playing a different game. Also, Forgeworld isn't exactly known for their amazing rules.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:08
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Arguing that you prefer the rules from 40K to a "fixed" AoS is a bit like arguing over how you prefer to have diarrhoea. You may find sometimes it is slightly less uncomfortable than other times, but ultimately the goal is to not give yourself diarrhoea. E: 30K is essentially 6th edition 40K because that was the core rule set that FW used to produce it. It is supposedly more balanced than 40K, but the reason for this is that all the forces are Space Marines and there are no formations. Instead of formations and detachment, choosing your HQ unlocks certain types of units as troops. It was a common mechanism in 6th ed and I think in 5th ed too. But the balance really comes down to how Warhammer 40K was balanced around Space Marines as the standard unit and then FW using exclusively Space Marines for their setting. Sir Teabag fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 20:08
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I mean, if I'm gonna have diarrhea, I'd prefer not to have blood in my diarrhea too.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:09
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I guess blood poop marines would be Corn Berserkers.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:12
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I'm surprised this didn't exist, so I went ahead.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:12
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Avenging Dentist posted:I've never played it because I'm not a total idiot but I'd say it's only better than 40k if you were exclusively playing marines vs marines already. Hello and welcome to 40k.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:14
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This has potential.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:15
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Should have been called Games Twerkshop.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:22
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Present posted:Should have been called Games Twerkshop. Werhermer, with the gersberms girl holding the rulebook
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Apr 27, 2016 20:32
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So much material in this thread.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:33
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Present posted:Should have been called Games Twerkshop. Just following in the footsteps of the original. 
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Apr 27, 2016 20:38
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You might want to preemptively start looking for a lawyer. You're legally protected in the US, of course, since this is very obviously parody, but that's not going to dissuade GW from sending you the C&D in the slightest and we've seen they're more than willing to throw a million or two at a baseless lawsuit. e. The most likely outcome is they'll bitch about it to twitter and twitter will just take down your account, of course.
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Apr 27, 2016 20:44
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I can live with a C&D for the sake of a few jabs at the more amusing aspects of GW 
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Apr 27, 2016 20:53
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Leperflesh posted:You're legally protected in the US, of course, since this is very obviously parody, but that's not going to dissuade GW from sending you the C&D in the slightest and we've seen they're more than willing to throw a million or two at a baseless lawsuit. Wizard People has the correct advice here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjYPfOnuf9w&t=479s
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Apr 27, 2016 20:54
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Leperflesh posted:You might want to preemptively start looking for a lawyer. Very fair point, but I think we're OK under British law: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/wayne-beynon/parody-law-reform_b_6230498.html
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Apr 27, 2016 21:20
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Sir Teabag posted:Arguing that you prefer the rules from 40K to a "fixed" AoS is a bit like arguing over how you prefer to have diarrhoea. You may find sometimes it is slightly less uncomfortable than other times, but ultimately the goal is to not give yourself diarrhoea. GW Death Thread 2015-2016: ultimately the goal is to not give yourself diarrhoea
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Apr 27, 2016 22:56
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Not a viking posted:http://heelanhammer.com/onlythefaithful/ Dan, Wayne no... 
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Apr 27, 2016 23:06
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One of my life goals is to never listen to a podcast. I just want to know what sort of kool-aid drinking nonsense they spout though...
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Apr 27, 2016 23:08
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They wernt always like that. They were enthusiastic but nice guys who knew a lot about the hobby and UK tournaments and talked about those. They never gave off a mouthpiece like vibe in the years listened to them until AoS. I'm generally sad. When my father was dying in the hospital, one of the ways I got to sleep in those lovely hospital benches was to throw on Heelan Hammer or Role Playing Public Radio. It's dumb. All these feelings of melancholy over some nerd podcast about a game I don't even play anymore. It shouldn't make me feel as bummed as I do. Who cares they can have their opinions there's nothing wrong with it. But I'm sad
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Apr 27, 2016 23:45
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Bad Moon posted:They wernt always like that. They were enthusiastic but nice guys who knew a lot about the hobby and UK tournaments and talked about those. They never gave off a mouthpiece like vibe in the years listened to them until AoS. 
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Apr 27, 2016 23:58
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fnordcircle posted:One of my life goals is to never listen to a podcast. I just want to know what sort of kool-aid drinking nonsense they spout though... They can be ok, as a background while doing something else (like, painting) - rather than having the TV or radio on. That's worth giving a listen for 10mins, just for the jaw-droping fan-wankery
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Apr 28, 2016 00:14
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Bad Moon posted:They wernt always like that. They were enthusiastic but nice guys who knew a lot about the hobby and UK tournaments and talked about those. They never gave off a mouthpiece like vibe in the years listened to them until AoS. You should send them this post. They need to know.
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Apr 28, 2016 01:03
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followed Captain Rufus posted:You should send them this post. They need to know. agreed Herr Tog fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Apr 28, 2016 02:10
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Nah. I mean, if they are happy playing that I guess I can't begrudge them that. They enjoy something that's execrable but it is t hurting anything. Just a bummer they are spending time polishing a turd when there are better options out there. But it's their money and time. 
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Apr 28, 2016 05:14
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While true, we can rag on them the same way the board game thread rags on Rutibex for enjoying and suggesting games like Fluxx, Betrayal AHOTH, and Talisman to newbies.
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Apr 28, 2016 05:29
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Wait. Hold the phone. People still play Fluxx? I thought that game was just a flash in the pan. Next you're going to tell me people still play Mao.
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Apr 28, 2016 05:40
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Avenging Dentist posted:Wait. Hold the phone. People still play Fluxx? I thought that game was just a flash in the pan. Next you're going to tell me people still play Mao. I wish it wasn't so 
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Apr 28, 2016 05:55
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What's wrong with Betrayal at the House on the Hill?  My buds played it last Sunday (I observed because I was tired after our Pathfinder game) and it looked pretty fun.
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Apr 28, 2016 05:56
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FrostyPox posted:it looked pretty fun. When playing you realize it's actually hell.
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