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pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
You know Fiorina checked with Trump before signing on. "No? Okay well I guess this is as close to relevant as I'm getting for now..."

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Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


"fluff in the wind"? is that a canadian expression?

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

FrensaGeran posted:

"fluff in the wind"? is that a canadian expression?

Close my mouth only for a moment then the moment's gone

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I am honestly curious why Cruz is even doing this bullshit. Is he that hopeful that the Establishment will bend the knee to him and crown him nominee. He is more hated then trump. I am pretty sure the establishment has written off the presidency at this point. Its just retarded and feels like the moves of someone who is extremely desperate. "if i name my VP, I cant possibly lose because naming a VP is what winners do" its like child logic.

Changes the narrative from the rear end kicking last night, gives a better platform to attach Trump on misogyny, might help in Cali. It is of course desperate as hell and won't matter.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
https://twitter.com/tregp/status/725421223799361536

It 'transitioned'.

as halfway crooks
Mar 7, 2007

by Shine

Majorian posted:

lol, you think Trump has a chance in November.


1) Trump already bought a recording of Hillary's banker speech transcripts for around 500k. Its a sound marketing investment. He is going to read excerpts of it out loud at the beginning of every debate. Hes going to post it on youtube and hes going to run mainstream media ads nonstop on it.
2) hes going to bring up the numerous women who accused Bill Clinton of rape
3) Hes going to play the recording of Hillary Clinton bragging about getting a child rapist off on all charges. Laughing about it.
4) hes going to bring up Clinton crime policy being leading to the largest incarceration rate for non-violent crime in the history of the United States
5) hes going to bring up her HORRID trade deals including but not limited to TPP.
6) Hes going to bring up all her poor pro war choices.
7) hes going to bring up how she says shes against guns but then is instrumental in selling billions in arms to the middle east.
8) hes going to bring up how she deliberately set up her email server to avoid the freedom of information act to do shady dealings under the cover of darkness.
9) hes already starting to use some of Bernie Sanders 1 liners and rhetoric. Hes taking notes and cherry picking the best lines from where Sanders and Trump platforms overlap (ie: money in politics and a corrupt finance system and a rigged election among others).
SHE DOESNT STAND A loving CHANCE. If hillary thinks Bernie needs to tone down then what is she going to do when trump (who is gangster and don't give a gently caress) starts laying into her. the democrats are SO loving DUMB for rigging the primaries. She doesnt stand a chance vs trump.
There is so much ego in the democratic party right now. They see Bernie as the enemy when hes showing them how to do it!
1) get tons of money without special interests so you can actually make millions WHILE BEING A GOOD PERSON!!! nope they hate that... why???? makes no sense. THIS IS A DREAM SCENARIO. MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BE A GOOD PERSON!!!! DERRRRRRR...
2) Bernie gets about 70% of young voters AND increases voter turnout like CRAZY! democrats can OWN the loving government in a few elections cycles.. NOPE democrats loving hate that. WHHYYYYYYYYY?????
lol this is just so unbelievable to me.

The media and political professional class still do not get it. They think this is just a republican issue. They completely miss the point that they themselves created Opinion/Identity voting. For example: "Let's call Trump a racist and a bigot based on what he says and people won't vote for him. We will create shame associated with his vote". The problem with that is this. Opinions, even when stated so fervently as to appear factual, are not issues. What we have learned as voters from the media is that even if we buy the opinion that Trump is a racist and a bigot, a vote for Hillary is a vote for 4 more years of the congress locking her out, more bad trade deals, more taxes on employers and individuals, more debt, more open borders, more Obama-care, more pro-abortion and anti gun judges on the Supreme court, more feckless foreign policy, and 4 more years of political correctness run a muck. Lastly, and worst of all 4 more years of the corporate buying of our government.
As a voter I no longer care about personal traits portrayed by the talking heads or what Trump says or what Hillary stands for. I care only what they say they are going to do or what they want to have happen. I am aware they likely will not be able to do all of it or maybe none of it but whatever policies they put forward is what I am going to vote on. If Bernie says he wants free education I don't expect to know every nuance of how he is going to do it, that will be determined later, as well as if he can do it at all. But the fact that is is stating that he wants to do it is the issue I will consider.
If Trump says he's going to build a wall that's his policy. Weather or not I think he's a bigot is irrelevant. If Hillary wants to not build a wall and "build bridges" that's the policy we are interested in. We no longer care about the idiotic talking heads who try to steer votes by calling people socialists, or woman hater, or racist or unqualified. If I vote for Trump I get his attempted agenda. If I vote for Bernie I get his. Same for Hillary, Cruz or Kasich. The people in the media have completely missed the fact that we used to listen to that crap and here we are with the candidates they themselves said we should be voting for and 70%+ of us think things are going in the wrong direction. The point is that for this election a lot of us are just not listening to them anymore.
Trump is winning because people just are not listening to pundits. Period. On either side. They are voting on policy positions stated by the candidates. Nothing more.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Full Battle Rattle posted:

The General is going to be a living nightmare for the GOP. If they think their problems are over after the primaries, they're only just beginning.

In that theme...

http://thehill.com/latino/277824-hispanics-in-swing-states-create-daunting-electoral-map-for-gop

quote:

Arturo Vargas, executive director of the National Association of Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEO), projects 13.1 million Latinos will vote nationwide in 2016, compared to 11.2 million in 2012 and 9.7 million in 2008.

And that seems like a low-ball to me.

MysteriousStranger
Mar 3, 2016
My "vacation" is a euphemism for war tourism in Ukraine for some "bloody work" to escape my boring techie job and family.

Ask me about my warcrimes.

Montasque posted:

"She knows how to create jobs..."

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait, is this a thing he said.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I am honestly curious why Cruz is even doing this bullshit. Is he that hopeful that the Establishment will bend the knee to him and crown him nominee. He is more hated then trump. I am pretty sure the establishment has written off the presidency at this point. Its just retarded and feels like the moves of someone who is extremely desperate. "if i name my VP, I cant possibly lose because naming a VP is what winners do" its like child logic.

Its a transparent distraction from the fact that he was destroyed last night and mathematically eliminated from winning on the first ballot. He's trying to buy his time until he can steal it in a brokered convention so he's putting on a big show so he doesn't have to walk around with the "loser" label.

Its desperate and transparent and if anything probably hurts him more. I'd guess its this kind of grandstanding and "I do it my way" approach to politics that has the establishment so hesitant to back him in the first place. Because if he wasn't this guy they would have had his back months ago over Trump.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.
This speech is going on forever, I've already thrown up in my office waste basket twice.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
delusional delusional delusional

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

as halfway crooks posted:

They are voting on policy positions stated by the candidates. Nothing more.

lmao, out of all the outlandish things fans of the Golden Calf believe: Voters vote on policy positions and nothing more! stands out as a special kind of stupid. Congrats.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

as halfway crooks posted:

1) Trump already bought a recording of Hillary's banker speech transcripts for around 500k. Its a sound marketing investment. He is going to read excerpts of it out loud at the beginning of every debate. Hes going to post it on youtube and hes going to run mainstream media ads nonstop on it.
2) hes going to bring up the numerous women who accused Bill Clinton of rape
3) Hes going to play the recording of Hillary Clinton bragging about getting a child rapist off on all charges. Laughing about it.
4) hes going to bring up Clinton crime policy being leading to the largest incarceration rate for non-violent crime in the history of the United States
5) hes going to bring up her HORRID trade deals including but not limited to TPP.
6) Hes going to bring up all her poor pro war choices.
7) hes going to bring up how she says shes against guns but then is instrumental in selling billions in arms to the middle east.
8) hes going to bring up how she deliberately set up her email server to avoid the freedom of information act to do shady dealings under the cover of darkness.
9) hes already starting to use some of Bernie Sanders 1 liners and rhetoric. Hes taking notes and cherry picking the best lines from where Sanders and Trump platforms overlap (ie: money in politics and a corrupt finance system and a rigged election among others).
SHE DOESNT STAND A loving CHANCE. If hillary thinks Bernie needs to tone down then what is she going to do when trump (who is gangster and don't give a gently caress) starts laying into her. the democrats are SO loving DUMB for rigging the primaries. She doesnt stand a chance vs trump.
There is so much ego in the democratic party right now. They see Bernie as the enemy when hes showing them how to do it!
1) get tons of money without special interests so you can actually make millions WHILE BEING A GOOD PERSON!!! nope they hate that... why???? makes no sense. THIS IS A DREAM SCENARIO. MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BE A GOOD PERSON!!!! DERRRRRRR...
2) Bernie gets about 70% of young voters AND increases voter turnout like CRAZY! democrats can OWN the loving government in a few elections cycles.. NOPE democrats loving hate that. WHHYYYYYYYYY?????
lol this is just so unbelievable to me.

The media and political professional class still do not get it. They think this is just a republican issue. They completely miss the point that they themselves created Opinion/Identity voting. For example: "Let's call Trump a racist and a bigot based on what he says and people won't vote for him. We will create shame associated with his vote". The problem with that is this. Opinions, even when stated so fervently as to appear factual, are not issues. What we have learned as voters from the media is that even if we buy the opinion that Trump is a racist and a bigot, a vote for Hillary is a vote for 4 more years of the congress locking her out, more bad trade deals, more taxes on employers and individuals, more debt, more open borders, more Obama-care, more pro-abortion and anti gun judges on the Supreme court, more feckless foreign policy, and 4 more years of political correctness run a muck. Lastly, and worst of all 4 more years of the corporate buying of our government.
As a voter I no longer care about personal traits portrayed by the talking heads or what Trump says or what Hillary stands for. I care only what they say they are going to do or what they want to have happen. I am aware they likely will not be able to do all of it or maybe none of it but whatever policies they put forward is what I am going to vote on. If Bernie says he wants free education I don't expect to know every nuance of how he is going to do it, that will be determined later, as well as if he can do it at all. But the fact that is is stating that he wants to do it is the issue I will consider.
If Trump says he's going to build a wall that's his policy. Weather or not I think he's a bigot is irrelevant. If Hillary wants to not build a wall and "build bridges" that's the policy we are interested in. We no longer care about the idiotic talking heads who try to steer votes by calling people socialists, or woman hater, or racist or unqualified. If I vote for Trump I get his attempted agenda. If I vote for Bernie I get his. Same for Hillary, Cruz or Kasich. The people in the media have completely missed the fact that we used to listen to that crap and here we are with the candidates they themselves said we should be voting for and 70%+ of us think things are going in the wrong direction. The point is that for this election a lot of us are just not listening to them anymore.
Trump is winning because people just are not listening to pundits. Period. On either side. They are voting on policy positions stated by the candidates. Nothing more.

source your quotes

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...
Cruz you can't use the word elan it's not even in the dictionaries they have in Indiana

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Three Olives posted:

This speech is going on forever, I've already thrown up in my office waste basket twice.

Its a Ted Cruz speech so its got at least another half hour.

Trash Trick
Apr 17, 2014

Ted Cruz is so loving sexy...I want to gently caress him..

Winkie01
Nov 28, 2004
https://twitter.com/JFKucinich/status/725423034358726658


:drat:

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

It's so hard to watch and listen to, and that's not even a joke.

Real Name Grover
Feb 13, 2002

Like corn on the cob
Fan of Britches

MysteriousStranger posted:

Wait, is this a thing he said.

Yup.

Also there's some old guy under the bleachers doing poo poo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kqp1sMbjvE

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.
Fiorina survived cancer unlike all those other losers.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
literally the most repulsive ticket possible hahahaha

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

MysteriousStranger posted:

Wait, is this a thing he said.

yes.

https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/725422223004192768

Even J-Rubin thinks this poo poo is boring, and she's looking for excuses to like Ted Cruz.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

as halfway crooks posted:

1) Trump already bought a recording of Hillary's banker speech transcripts for around 500k. Its a sound marketing investment. He is going to read excerpts of it out loud at the beginning of every debate. Hes going to post it on youtube and hes going to run mainstream media ads nonstop on it.
2) hes going to bring up the numerous women who accused Bill Clinton of rape
3) Hes going to play the recording of Hillary Clinton bragging about getting a child rapist off on all charges. Laughing about it.
4) hes going to bring up Clinton crime policy being leading to the largest incarceration rate for non-violent crime in the history of the United States
5) hes going to bring up her HORRID trade deals including but not limited to TPP.
6) Hes going to bring up all her poor pro war choices.
7) hes going to bring up how she says shes against guns but then is instrumental in selling billions in arms to the middle east.
8) hes going to bring up how she deliberately set up her email server to avoid the freedom of information act to do shady dealings under the cover of darkness.
9) hes already starting to use some of Bernie Sanders 1 liners and rhetoric. Hes taking notes and cherry picking the best lines from where Sanders and Trump platforms overlap (ie: money in politics and a corrupt finance system and a rigged election among others).
SHE DOESNT STAND A loving CHANCE. If hillary thinks Bernie needs to tone down then what is she going to do when trump (who is gangster and don't give a gently caress) starts laying into her. the democrats are SO loving DUMB for rigging the primaries. She doesnt stand a chance vs trump.
There is so much ego in the democratic party right now. They see Bernie as the enemy when hes showing them how to do it!
1) get tons of money without special interests so you can actually make millions WHILE BEING A GOOD PERSON!!! nope they hate that... why???? makes no sense. THIS IS A DREAM SCENARIO. MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BE A GOOD PERSON!!!! DERRRRRRR...
2) Bernie gets about 70% of young voters AND increases voter turnout like CRAZY! democrats can OWN the loving government in a few elections cycles.. NOPE democrats loving hate that. WHHYYYYYYYYY?????
lol this is just so unbelievable to me.

The media and political professional class still do not get it. They think this is just a republican issue. They completely miss the point that they themselves created Opinion/Identity voting. For example: "Let's call Trump a racist and a bigot based on what he says and people won't vote for him. We will create shame associated with his vote". The problem with that is this. Opinions, even when stated so fervently as to appear factual, are not issues. What we have learned as voters from the media is that even if we buy the opinion that Trump is a racist and a bigot, a vote for Hillary is a vote for 4 more years of the congress locking her out, more bad trade deals, more taxes on employers and individuals, more debt, more open borders, more Obama-care, more pro-abortion and anti gun judges on the Supreme court, more feckless foreign policy, and 4 more years of political correctness run a muck. Lastly, and worst of all 4 more years of the corporate buying of our government.
As a voter I no longer care about personal traits portrayed by the talking heads or what Trump says or what Hillary stands for. I care only what they say they are going to do or what they want to have happen. I am aware they likely will not be able to do all of it or maybe none of it but whatever policies they put forward is what I am going to vote on. If Bernie says he wants free education I don't expect to know every nuance of how he is going to do it, that will be determined later, as well as if he can do it at all. But the fact that is is stating that he wants to do it is the issue I will consider.
If Trump says he's going to build a wall that's his policy. Weather or not I think he's a bigot is irrelevant. If Hillary wants to not build a wall and "build bridges" that's the policy we are interested in. We no longer care about the idiotic talking heads who try to steer votes by calling people socialists, or woman hater, or racist or unqualified. If I vote for Trump I get his attempted agenda. If I vote for Bernie I get his. Same for Hillary, Cruz or Kasich. The people in the media have completely missed the fact that we used to listen to that crap and here we are with the candidates they themselves said we should be voting for and 70%+ of us think things are going in the wrong direction. The point is that for this election a lot of us are just not listening to them anymore.
Trump is winning because people just are not listening to pundits. Period. On either side. They are voting on policy positions stated by the candidates. Nothing more.

I'm starting to think this guy might be serious about all the dumb poo poo he posts

as halfway crooks
Mar 7, 2007

by Shine

StandardVC10 posted:

source your quotes

People keep saying Trump's schtick won't work in the general, as if burying their head in the sand will prevent him from going full throttle on HRC? Trump's attacks have never been based solidly on facts or anything of the sort (though i'm sure some are, as were most of Bernie's). He insults, slanders, capitalizes on the fallout, will have limitless ammuntion in the general, and if he really likes you he'll pick a nickname. He could pick a new "not technically a scandal" each week and never run out of new material I'm no Trump fan by any means, but saying it won't work in the general election means you haven't actually looked at his follower base and the reasons why they will vote Trump.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
On the reverse, you can't even attack him on policy and hope it sticks. MSM can do their worst, they won't be able to effectively marginalize Trump for the same reason they couldn't marginalize Bernie, the two candidates message inherently rejects the establishment, critiques from the establishment will be completely ignored by this group of people. In fact now, more than ever after all the primary shenanigans, people will be ever more distrustful of the MSM. CNN/MSNBC is going to be viewed much in the same light as FOX after everything is said and done. The more they try to ramrod HRC down everyone's throat with their overly gushing reviews, the more people are going to be turned off at an accelerating rate.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
For those of you saying he can't use Wall Street, you can be certain he will absolutely mention Wall Street and that it will have it's desired effect without her transcripts released. I imagine it will go something like, "I've never loved wall street, they have no love for me, i'm self made. Look at her, she can't even release a few documents that her own policy made sure exists! She's bought and sold, I financed myself and kept her receipt." It won't matter what parts of it are true, the same way it didn't matter what was actually true about Bernie. MSM will pick up the points that generate the most attention and even though they're clearly bias for Hillary, they'll show the segments and then spin. The damage will be done in the simple re-airing of those interactions because the average American citizen is not well informed and it is a fact that Reality TV gets viewers.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Like I said, the Trump campaign is not succeeding because he's got great policy or he debates well. He Reality TV's well (this skill has somehow managed to overshadow any other legitimate skill, you can thank the slashing of education budgets around the nation), and American citizens have made it brutally clear that this is how we want to do things. We want to watch the slander against the person we don't like, we want to talk about it..sometimes endlessly, we want to gossip about it to see who shares our view, and secretly hope everyone else agrees with it(if you don't you're WRONG!), while most of us will borderline hate someone else for simply having a different opinion and then viciously attack them because "they can't see reason."...or sarcastically attack them and imply they're childish or stupid and their opinion somehow doesn't matter while mine does.
Sponsored by Carl's Jr.
Trump does all these things EXTREMELY well and that won't change regardless of the amount of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the big wigs throw at him to discredit. The presidential debates will be a complete joke. One candidate will be slinging memes left and right and the people will cheer, and the other will try to actually debate policy but no matter what answer comes out of her mouth, at that specific point in time, the people will boo because she had to pause 4 times mid sentence to re-structure her wordplay in hopes she didn't step over the line that qualifies "technically." Meme-slinger will catch this and point it out, technically a candidate will get mentally angry while trying to maintain character and will eventually return fire. From this point onwards it will be popcorn time. I get how cynical and hosed up it sounds, but this is what happens when you're forced to choose the lesser of two evils forever...eventually the American people will get tired of "the lesser of two evils" and will want to elect someone who hasn't been tainted by the money... and it will be too late. The internet will end up regulated, and any grassroots that would have still had a chance will get snuffed out immediately via technically legal new-american censorship (CTR). The people getting censored will say, "hey why did this and this disappear," or "why is, 'the sky is blue' getting downvoted?" and the accepted response will be, you're a crazy conspiarcy theorist that would NEVER happen in America you looney tune. The sky was never technically blue, it doesn't have a color!
Sponsored by Carl's Jr.
-Ps: Carl's Jr. didn't actaully sponsor this message and has nothing to do with it.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
nightmare ticket for the nightmare timeline

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

lamentable dustman posted:

Changes the narrative from the rear end kicking last night, gives a better platform to attach Trump on misogyny, might help in Cali. It is of course desperate as hell and won't matter.

except she is just as hated as trump and is an even worse businessperson, plus Cruz is toxic to women already with his views. she comes off as your angry lovely boss who would have a whole department sacked for shits and giggles plus she has lovely social views.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
such long.



boring.




pauses.

Trash Trick
Apr 17, 2014

i want to lick his slimy rear end hole............

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
https://twitter.com/AP/status/725423295433170945

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
cop i'm already about to throw up, don't make it worse

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
:catstare:

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
The only thing now standing between the reality-TV casino guy and the nomination of the Republican party are now the two least likable people to seek a national office in at least a generation. This is the world we live in. :psyduck:

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord
:lol: at how many times Cruz has referenced "look at that face."

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Before Cruz came on stage they had TVs playing old footage of Fox News saying "Cruz Wins Iowa!" and it's heartbreaking.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Ted Cruz sure knows about texting little girls...

Also this..

https://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/725423499553181699

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

Amazing. Would not expected this a week ago. Who knows what tomorrow holds. :allears:

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
the sound of rubbing styrofoam / killer ants 2016

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

except she is just as hated as trump and is an even worse businessperson, plus Cruz is toxic to women already with his views. she comes off as your angry lovely boss who would have a whole department sacked for shits and giggles plus she has lovely social views.

Well he doesn't have any friends who are likable. What do you expect? Its Ted Cruz.

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004
I

don't

caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare

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SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

a cop posted:

Ted Cruz is so loving sexy...I want to gently caress him..
Don't source this quote.

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