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8-Bit Scholar posted:They are also really tough so I don't bother. :/ Yeah, but it will be more of a thing later, when you are better at the game and higher level. Unlike souls, this game has a huge loot component. There are indications of a Way of the Samurai style sword crafting system. Which means people who want to make their perfect minmaxed dreamsword for their moveset might farm. How cool is it that farming areas will have "cross pollination" between players farming them? While I love the complex storylines ofWay of the Samurai, Nioh looks to have perfected the combat and loot aspects of it.
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I don't give a gently caress about companies censoring sexual things but I think it is dumb when companies censor religious stuff. I can understand wanting to remove religious stuff you didn't necessarily realize you had put in the game (like with the religious chanting in ocarina of time that they didn't realize was religious chanting or whatever) but it bugs me when companies feel like they have to remove religious symbolism. Basically I'm irate about what Mastiff did to La Pucelle. Yeah, la pucelle isn't necessarily gonna be any better or any worse without the religious iconography, but it was still a large part of the game's aesthetic so it seems pretty silly for a company to scoop up a niche srpg filled with religious symbols and then attempt to remove all of the religious symbols.
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honestly I dont consume video games the way I consume other media. I care only about how the game plays and will turn settings down to get a better framerate on PC so with censorship or localization, it's like. i dunno video games usually have lovely stories anyway? especially JRPGs. i beat grandia 2 earlier this year and the storytelling was the one thing trying to prevent me from finishing the game, which for some people, it's the inverse with JRPGs I think I might be more distracted if there was engrish or poor grammar, but if someone throws a meme into dialogue that's otherwise properly written, I dont really care because I dont laugh at video games anyway so why would I weigh one joke in a game against another. similarly I dont get the obsession with wanting sexualization in games because theres a game to play and if i was into that I wouldnt really want to be distracted while playing??? its just weird. google porn, you have the internet. there are other forms of media where that works better telltale or david cage games might be the only way i would imagine it working in and cage's games universally suck The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Again, I don't know why you think this is so strange. Have you not seen an actual cemetary? No. I've literally never seen a cemetery. I'm just saying it's a little weird to take a symbol overwhelmingly associated with the largest real-world religion and have it just happen to be the universal symbol for religion in every videogame. It's obviously design shorthand so the player can recognize a church in the game world or whatever, and in games like Castlevania it's even tonally/thematically appropriate, I just think it's kinda funny. FirstAidKite posted:it bugs me when companies feel like they have to remove religious symbolism. It's weird. In most of the older games where they did that, like the RPGs and Castlevania games I've been talking about, those symbols were pretty directly associated with good things and the good guys. And then in games where you're killing God and the church is the bad guy or whatever, I don't know why removing the crosses without changing a line of dialogue would somehow make it inoffensive. It reminds me of D&D falling prey to a moral panic over being about demons and black magic and stuff, despite the fact that most of that content was very explicitly intended to be villains for the players to fight, and then TSR responded in 2nd edition AD&D by making up gobbledy-gook fantasy words instead of saying "demon" or "devil" when naming monsters. But the monsters were still just demons, and they were still mostly just badguys anyway.
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also just speaking as an artist i find it really unimaginative when everything is sexualized in media to a specific definition just because the ad guys say so. it leads to lack of design contrast and homogenization. i watch anime but nothing bothers me more when i can't tell characters apart because the designer drew the characters off a template because that's their ideal waifu or whatever. I couldn't understand what was going on in Gundam SEED when I was younger because every character looked like hair/palette-swaps i dont know if overwatch will be good but I like that they actually decided to TRY to have some variety in design while still maintaining a uniform look. it's what i liked about TF2's art too i also hope indivisible turns out cool because all the characters they showed on their kickstarter was this immense array of various body types and heights and sizes and musculature and skin tones, which is a big step forward from skullgirls, just visually speaking
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At one point Nintendo just removed literally anything that might have ever been the slightest bit controversial, hence the removal of religious symbols and other things that didn't really matter. Even ever stuff like Mortal Kombat and other 'mature' (ie. still mostly juvenile but gory) games getting popular forced them to relax a bit they still tried to maintain their position as a the family company.
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Quest For Glory II posted:also just speaking as an artist i find it really unimaginative when everything is sexualized in media to a specific definition just because the ad guys say so. it leads to lack of design contrast and homogenization. i watch anime but nothing bothers me more when i can't tell characters apart because the designer drew the characters off a template because that's their ideal waifu or whatever. I couldn't understand what was going on in Gundam SEED when I was younger because every character looked like hair/palette-swaps That's just the Seed guys thing though, he can literally only draw one dude face and one girl face.
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if some of the SNES RPGs that are canonized in history as All-Time Legendary were released today in their same state, i wonder how many angry threads and harassment campaigns there would be. "this character said 'you spoony bard'?? i'm going to send death threats to their family!!!"
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People would be furious about Cyan speaking in bad Elizabethan English instead of using Japanese honorifics or however the gently caress he's characterized in the original script
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Apr 28, 2016 08:20
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lol if you think people didn't get mad over stuff like that back in the day
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Apr 28, 2016 08:21
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It was just harder to co-ordinate anger
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Sakurazuka posted:lol if you think people didn't get mad over stuff like that back in the day
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now im playing warioware touched. im at ashleys minigames IT HAS SINGING
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Sakurazuka posted:lol if you think people didn't get mad over stuff like that back in the day Sakurazuka posted:It was just harder to co-ordinate anger I'm sure, but the coordinated anger, constant feedback, and radicalizing circlejerks are what make that stuff dangerous instead of funny, different culture; I feel like somebody probably would have tried to blow up Victor Ireland's office if Working Designs was still translating major releases the way he translated games like Lunar Quest For Glory II posted:now im playing warioware touched. im at ashleys minigames I only ever played the GC Warioware, which is freaking epic, and the Wii one, which is... not
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Quest For Glory II posted:honestly I dont consume video games the way I consume other media. I care only about how the game plays and will turn settings down to get a better framerate on PC It's like how I won't ponder how deep the psychological aspects in John Wick are and enjoy it for its brilliantly choreographed action while I will have different standards for an Asghar Farhadi movie seen at the same cinema a week later.
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but I feel like for the most part video games stories are all just variations on Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer constructs. i mean yes, indie games, Telltale games, sure. Telltale at the very least approaches something similar to television in the same way Soylent approaches something similar to edible, but I wouldn't watch a Let's Play of a Telltale game, it's not THAT rich the point I was making though was about censorship/localization. like with television, it gets censored all the time. you cant make a show without having to pass through the bureau of standards and practices of your network. but nobody's throwing a shitfit over that because people who dont play games arent mind-infants that stomp their feet and bang their fists on the table. well maybe ppl who watch the nerdy poo poo on TV like GOT or The Flash are. i'm starting to derail at this point everything goes through an editorial process but video games still seem very wild west about it even with ESRB. Nintendo is just going along with the kind of guidelines i would expect from any other medium but that apparently does not hold up to gamer scrutiny. it holds up to mine however because I just like to play video games. i guess what i'm saying is, i will enjoy a game and not feel like I have to listen to anyone telling me what I missed out on because of CENSORSHIP besides who doesnt like watching die hard on TV and seeing what networks do to replace the swear words. that's the The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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I agree that stories in games are mostly weak but I don't agree with you that Telltale games do it the proper way or whatever. They're the closest to mimmicking TV that games can get but it doesn't mean that's the high point of storytelling that I've seen in the medium. To me for example Cart Life is a shining example where the game does something that TV really couldn't do the same way where the gameplay enriches the story and isn't a separate module between cutscenes. Games like these are very rare though. But I guess I'm derailing hard as well as I agree that censorship should apply where it's due but not for example take away gore from a game based on shooting people in the guts and exploitation.
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I roleplay as doom guy for a good story time
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basically, the internet is great but its given us the forbidden fruit of knowledge of What Could Have Been. i played the SNES final fantasies and don't think I ever thought "now this dialogue seems wrong!!!" i was just like, I gotta stop this creepy anime clown from destroying the world!! if people didnt know that facepetting existed in Fire Emblem i don't think they'd say "i'm enjoying this game but something's missing, i feel like i should be able to stroke the faces of my squad" the complaints always seem to center around stuff that really doesn't matter in the bigger picture, or in some situations has barely any relevance to the game at all i know nerds get mad at the special edition star wars movies but my nieces and nephews have seen the films a billion times and they've never been like "THIS HAN/GREEDO poo poo IS hosed UP"
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Quest For Glory II posted:also just speaking as an artist i find it really unimaginative when everything is sexualized in media to a specific definition just because the ad guys say so. it leads to lack of design contrast and homogenization. i watch anime but nothing bothers me more when i can't tell characters apart because the designer drew the characters off a template because that's their ideal waifu or whatever. I couldn't understand what was going on in Gundam SEED when I was younger because every character looked like hair/palette-swaps Since you actually are an artist, do you have any insight on whether this happens? It seems we often assume it's market-droids from the publisher or someone who barge in and demand bigger boobs or something, but I don't know if that is how it actually happens, and even if it does, that doesn't necessarily have to be the entire picture.
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Most of them aren't even mad at 'censorship' (which it isn't anyway, since it not government mandated) they're just the type that scream sjw!!!!! as soon as anything that doesn't pander specifically to their taste happens, and this is the current new 'symptom of liberal oppression' thanks to a couple of high profile Nintendo games getting cuts to potentially objectionable content.
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I couldn't care less about the Han Solo thing because that's just some detail but it's all the CG they added that made it worse. I'd rather watch a remastered edition of the originals just not to have crap like some low-res CG skin texture obscuring the view of actual protagonists for 5 seconds. It's just worse cinematography.
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why could you pet peoples faces in the first place
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Sakurazuka posted:Most of them aren't even mad at 'censorship' (which it isn't anyway, since it not government mandated) they're just the type that scream sjw!!!!! as soon as anything that doesn't pander specifically to their taste happens, and this is the current new 'symptom of liberal oppression' thanks to a couple of high profile Nintendo games getting cuts to potentially objectionable content.
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Oh neat Oh...  God drat it Square
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Ahundredbux posted:why could you pet peoples faces in the first place
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CrashCat posted:Since you actually are an artist, do you have any insight on whether this happens? It seems we often assume it's market-droids from the publisher or someone who barge in and demand bigger boobs or something, but I don't know if that is how it actually happens, and even if it does, that doesn't necessarily have to be the entire picture. Palpek fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Palpek posted:I couldn't care less about the Han Solo thing because that's just some detail but it's all the CG they added that made it worse. I'd rather watch a remastered edition of the originals just not to have crap like some low-res CG skin texture obscuring the view of actual protagonists for 5 seconds. It's just worse cinematography. There is bad CG in the Han thing as well, they added a dodge which is pretty noticeably fake. That said a lot of the special edition changes are pretty ok, like I watch that despecialized edition and I really missed having the Biggs scene in the hangar and also during the battle of Yavin in return there is a bit where Tie Interceptors suddenly just pop into a scene that is really noticeable and I would be ok with that being fixed
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Ahundredbux posted:why could you pet peoples faces in the first place Someone probably thought it was a cute+funny idea at some point then it went horribly wrong.
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PBS Newshour posted:There is bad CG in the Han thing as well, they added a dodge which is pretty noticeably fake. That said a lot of the special edition changes are pretty ok, like I watch that despecialized edition and I really missed having the Biggs scene in the hangar and also during the battle of Yavin in return there is a bit where Tie Interceptors suddenly just pop into a scene that is really noticeable and I would be ok with that being fixed
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Sakurazuka posted:Someone probably thought it was a cute+funny idea at some point then it went horribly wrong. What's everybody playing today?
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I'll be playing Killer Instinct when I get home from gymming in a few hours and playing KI before I go to sleep Probably practice my Cinder counter breaker stuff and start working on Rash. Also probably play some Fate/Grand Order since the new event just started
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Baal posted:I'll be playing Killer Instinct when I get home from gymming in a few hours and playing KI before I go to sleep How easy is KI to pick up? We got a copy of it for the office and I've never tried it.
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Golden Goat posted:They thought it would be funny to put in a Pokemon-Amie feature. same thing I play everyday, garbage mobas
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Golden Goat posted:How easy is KI to pick up? We got a copy of it for the office and I've never tried it. If you want to just pop it in and do stuff it's pretty simple, but if you want to know what you're doing then it's honestly pretty dense and full of some non-beginner friendly mechanics. It's a surprisingly very ruthless fighting game for what is a modern day fighter
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Cool, I should try some of it during breaks. I should check what we have for the game though, I think we only have season 1.
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S1 has a pretty varied roster of characters, but a good beginner character is Jago. My main is in Season 2 tho.
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Ubisoft's Community Manager was streaming himself playing The Division to promote the game and got griefed by a hacker in the process: http://fat.gfycat.com/MassiveEmbellishedCopepod.webm
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Love Stole the Day posted:Ubisoft's Community Manager was streaming himself playing The Division to promote the game and got griefed by a hacker in the process: Perfection.
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