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Actually brought up both those things, he said they aren't "factual events rooted in policy" ? So like his dad might be a religious cult leader man, but that doesn't mean Cruz will because he never overtly said anything about it. And shutting down the government was not exclusively his fault so that doesn't count. It is an odd logic I am fighting here.
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OatmealRaisin posted:It's gonna be a McMahon. Linda makes more sense but this is Trump we're talking about so I won't rule Vince out. I know this is awhile ago, but Liberal Linda has the same issues of formerly supporting Democratic candidates (and courting people voting for B. Hussein) as Trump, which should make for some hilarious Bircher meltdowns if she is selected.
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WampaLord posted:HE SHUT DOWN THE MOTHERFUCKING GOVERNMENT And it was because of the Affordable Healthcare Act. What a scum bag.
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phantom_dilz posted:So I have a friend who insists people just like to hate on Cruz because "he is awful, he is the worst" but have no substance to back it up. I am perfectly content with disliking the man as a candidate because he looks like a vaseline eel and sounds like a gently caress rear end. Does anyone have concise, reliable sources for legitimate reasons why he is so lovely? To clarify, he is asking for "a bad thing he did" or a "clear reason why I shouldn't vote for him". Thanks goons and god bless MAGA 2016 Tried to ban dildos, tried to make a kid serve 16 years for shoplifting, had his wife loan his campaign money illegally, is a total backbiter.
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Three Olives posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/opinion/the-brutalism-of-ted-cruz.html Wait....I thought he was a compassionate conservative People should throw calculators at him
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Boosted_C5 posted:with JEB! and Lyin' Ted...in chains. Please stop reading my erotic fanfiction kthx. phantom_dilz posted:Actually brought up both those things, he said they aren't "factual events rooted in policy" ? So like his dad might be a religious cult leader man, but that doesn't mean Cruz will because he never overtly said anything about it. And shutting down the government was not exclusively his fault so that doesn't count. It is an odd logic I am fighting here. It sounds like your friend is deep in the kool-aid. Ask him if he has any problems with same-sex marriage. It might be time to 
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TheTatteredKing posted:Tried to ban dildos, tried to make a kid serve 16 years for shoplifting, had his wife loan his campaign money illegally, is a total backbiter. So my friend is a bankruptcy attorney who does constitutional law for fun (what a dork LOLOL). I have made the mistake of bringing up the 16 year shoplifting and dildo ban thing. His counter I can't wholly disagree with, and it is basically that Ted is just doing his job when he tries to ban dildos because his position is as a representative of the state attorney and as a prosecutor or whatever he was, I forget his old job title. Basically lawyers shouldn't be held responsible for what they defend/prosecute. I will see what he says about the campaign loan thing...that looks suspect as gently caress now that I am reading about it.
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babypolis posted:you are a racist piece of poo poo, please gently caress off already I'm black, idiot.
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Yeah but that's total over reach and inconsistent with his small government platform. Has Cruz himself even given that explanation? It's a pattern of lovely authoritarianism where he wants to throw the book at everyone but wants no laws or taxes every on him and his.
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TheTatteredKing posted:Yeah but that's total over reach and inconsistent with his small government platform. Has Cruz himself even given that explanation? It's a pattern of lovely authoritarianism where he wants to throw the book at everyone but wants no laws or taxes every on him and his. Banning things based on biblical literalism is 100% consistent with his platform and is based on the brilliant legal reasoning of the constitution doesn't say dildos are allowed
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phantom_dilz posted:Basically lawyers shouldn't be held responsible for what they defend/prosecute. Defend? Sure, makes sense, you have to defend every client to your maximum ability. Prosecute? Not the same, you have the ability to not press charges, to prosecute for lesser charges, etc.
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phantom_dilz posted:So my friend is a bankruptcy attorney who does constitutional law for fun (what a dork LOLOL). I have made the mistake of bringing up the 16 year shoplifting and dildo ban thing. His counter I can't wholly disagree with, and it is basically that Ted is just doing his job when he tries to ban dildos because his position is as a representative of the state attorney and as a prosecutor or whatever he was, I forget his old job title. Basically lawyers shouldn't be held responsible for what they defend/prosecute. I will see what he says about the campaign loan thing...that looks suspect as gently caress now that I am reading about it. Offhand, I suspect your friend will rules-lawyer his way out of any argument. But most lawyers have better sense than to try to play games like that out of court but anyway. So how about something a little closer to home. How about Ted Cruz has one of the most sought-after, highly-regarded jobs in the world and blows off work all the time, because he can. And still has the loving nerve to run for President. Just for starters. Unpretty as he may be, he's incredibly narcissistic. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/ted-cruz-2016-senate-vote-record-117201
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Normally I would say that running for President is evidence enough that he's a terrible person. But I'm not sure that whatever Cruz is doing these days can accurately be described as "running for President".
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StandardVC10 posted:Trump puts America first, unlike all those other candidates who put America second or third I guess? The candidates of global liberalism and international capitalism, yes. The candidates of NAFTA and outsourcing and world policing and toppling Saddam.
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Maoist Pussy posted:I'm black, idiot. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. Even black cops profile and do things to black men they would never even think about doing to me when I am speeding like a jackass.
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as halfway crooks posted:did we (or anyone) ever really expect trump to pivot on "im with her" though, you doofuses When he and Ailes are through with her, she's really gonna bleeding from her whatevers.
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WampaLord posted:Prosecute? Not the same, you have the ability to not press charges, to prosecute for lesser charges, etc. This is smart and I probably should have at least asked why he couldn't refuse. Everyone has given me some decent starting ammunition so far. Convincing him Ted Cruz is poo poo is like my white whale, so I will update if I am successful. Feel free to post anything else relevant and I will write up a demonstrative proof manifesto thing to shove in his dumb idiot face.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Ted Cruz is going to change taxes to an idiotic postcard that still has a line for deductions that are presumably calculated on another sheet of paper and will be governed according to some kind of rules overseen by some kind of governing body effectively nullifying the whole premise Plus the 'skinsuit renewal fund' is suspect as all hell.
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phantom_dilz posted:Actually brought up both those things, he said they aren't "factual events rooted in policy" ? So like his dad might be a religious cult leader man, but that doesn't mean Cruz will because he never overtly said anything about it. And shutting down the government was not exclusively his fault so that doesn't count. It is an odd logic I am fighting here. He believes pretty much all of the same stuff his dad does about religion and the role of government, he thinks this is a Christian country and that it's his duty as president to protect Christian values. He thinks that Christians are persecuted in America by gays and other ungodly forces and views it as one of his highest priorities to stop this, he talks about it constantly. If you friend is at all socially liberal or just not a conservative Christian this should be troubling. Many Republicans just talk about rolling back progress on social issues to rile up the base and proceed to do little when elected because they really don't care, Cruz is the definition of a true believer and would do everything possible in his power to implement his awful views. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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as halfway crooks posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm0ljSSES1w See, solves itself, really. No need for gamesmanship theory at all. Killing spree!
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Remember when Cruz spoke at a kill the gays rally and was interviewed on stage by Kevin Swanson? Obviously you shouldn't kill people for being gay, but it is hardly controversial to advise people not to send their children to a transgender school?
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petit choux posted:See, solves itself, really. No need for gamesmanship theory at all. 
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Maoist Pussy posted:Obviously you shouldn't kill people for being gay, but it is hardly controversial to advise people not to send their children to a transgender school? what is a transgender school
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guys im getting a cat tomorrow, whats a good name for him fidel catstro meowsama bin laden purray chotiner 
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as halfway crooks posted:guys im getting a cat tomorrow, whats a good name for him cats are stupid and for lonely miserable people, get a dog.
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phantom_dilz posted:So I have a friend who insists people just like to hate on Cruz because "he is awful, he is the worst" but have no substance to back it up. I am perfectly content with disliking the man as a candidate because he looks like a vaseline eel and sounds like a gently caress rear end. Does anyone have concise, reliable sources for legitimate reasons why he is so lovely? To clarify, he is asking for "a bad thing he did" or a "clear reason why I shouldn't vote for him". Thanks goons and god bless MAGA 2016 John Boehner, former Republican Speaker of the House, on Ted Cruz posted:“Lucifer in the flesh, I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.” If you still need more evidence, well, look no further than the fact that he just put Carly Fiorina back in the national spotlight. Actually I care so much about Ted Cruz being awful that I went and used Google to find some choice examples awful Ted Cruz quotes: Ted Cruz posted:“It’s every bit as true now as it was then, we need 100 more like Jesse Helms in the U.S. Senate.” Ted Cruz posted:“‘Net neutrality’ is Obamacare for the Internet” Ted Cruz posted:“No man who doesn’t begin every day on his knees is fit to stand in the Oval Office.” I would think your Con Law friend should have a problem with that one in particular (he is in fact talking about Christian prayer). my bony fealty fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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my bony fealty posted:what is a transgender school futa high
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phantom_dilz posted:So I have a friend who insists people just like to hate on Cruz because "he is awful, he is the worst" but have no substance to back it up. I am perfectly content with disliking the man as a candidate because he looks like a vaseline eel and sounds like a gently caress rear end. Does anyone have concise, reliable sources for legitimate reasons why he is so lovely? To clarify, he is asking for "a bad thing he did" or a "clear reason why I shouldn't vote for him". Thanks goons and god bless MAGA 2016 Cost the US govt billions, and the US economy 24 billion dollars: http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/17/heres-what-the-government-shutdown-cost-the-economy/ That's a good one right there. But it isn't that hard to find more (look at my previous posts, I"m sure I posted like a few score)
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as halfway crooks posted:guys im getting a cat tomorrow, whats a good name for him Donald Trump The Cat
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THA TITTY THRILLER posted:Donald Trump The Cat Click Or Cool Ranch
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my bony fealty posted:hilarious Boehner quote I brought that up and he gave me the response of "Did he say why?" Apparently John needed to enumerate reasons for his revolted opinion and sensory experience of Ted Cruz for it to have validity.
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