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This'll be scrapped as soon as someone tries to use it to fund a bike lane.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 00:57 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:33 |
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Not even, it'll be the same theory as the proposed Innovation Fund they were going to funnel medicare into - the money will sit there until someone forgets about it to be trussed up as Budget Savings, or failing that they'll trickle it out to private company mates.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:00 |
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Voters won't be tricked by a Innovation Fund, right? It just seems like an attempt to appear to be doing something while doing nothing.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:02 |
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Yeah, this has been quietly floated for months.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:10 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:What's funny is that there keep being rumours that 30 year infrastructure bonds will be a big part of the budget.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:11 |
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The people hate us. Maybe if we do the opposite of what we are currently doing they will like us again???
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:19 |
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I'm the infrastructure prime minister - Tony "toned abs" Abbott
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:26 |
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Negligent posted:I'm the infrastructure prime minister - Tony "toned abs" Abbott Chris Bowen trimmed his beard and it looks worse now
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 01:37 |
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DAAS Kapitalist posted:No-one not on Whirlpool cares enough about the NBN for it to change their vote. It's not a serious election issue. Ket posted:I don't think that's true at all, ladies at my work, even the ones 40+ are starting to realise the limits of bad internet and are getting really shirty at bad upload speeds. DAAS Kapitalist posted:Put it this way: the NBN is way down the list of issues Labor will campaign on. It adds to the general impression of the incompetence of the Liberals, but it doesn't rate compared to their repeated attacks on health, education, the environment and the poor while supporting tax breaks for the wealthy. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-09/vote-compass-data-results-important-issues/4872896' So while you are right the electorate has (bizarrely) fixated on economic performance1. "It's the economy stupid!" I don't think the NBN is quite the non-starter you consider it to be. As others have pointed out it is completely seen as Turdball's responsibility and the ongoing cost increases and connection time blow outs really clash with his chosen mantras of agile and innovative. It is clearly neither. What's more it is happening right now in people's homes. The people who are 'casual' National voters in the local electorate have become increasingly peeved by the utter lack of anything for them from their traditional team. The NBN was something they asked their (National) representatives to ensure wasn't hosed over for rural people. Well after all the noise and all the wait people have been connected to a thing that goes by the name of NBN but has often proven to be worse than their old ADSL connections. That makes people angry. Angry people look to hurt the ones they see as responsible. I specifically noted where defence and IR fell on that snap shot graph because it really can't be good to be preaching austerity when between the JSF and the Subs they have committed well over the current deficit in defence expenditure. That can not play well against the item at the top. The whole ABCC issue isn't really on any Australian's radar and neither should it be. I was genuinely surprised the economy got such a high place because traditionally (Nineties at least) it went: 1/ Environment.(Now climate change apparently). 2/ Health. 3/ Education. In some kind of relative order, followed by day light. The apparent change makes news corpse's grip on the political discourse in the Howard years truly frightening. Especially as his administration were the biggest economic vandals in living memory. Funny old world. -/- The bash a dole bludger thing isn't off the front pages though, so some-one thinks it has legs. It was pointed out that the clusters of people using such measures may be a result of their socio-economic profiles and that full employment was anathema to the current capitalist model but I think you can push the blame straight onto the free market. Why are there socio-economic ghettos with high unemployment? Well what industries does Lethbridge Park2. have? It's pretty centrally located in Sydney and close to a rail corridor so unless these residents are congenitally lazy then it must be due to socio-economic disadvantage. If the genetics are considered a factor then clearly we have poor stock in SA and Tasmania? Why are these suburbs developed in the first place? I'd claim that it is dodgy developers bribing corrupt councils to line their pockets without any regard to infrastructure or demographic needs. This is just the result of the unrestrained hand of the free market. What is being done to fix this obvious, long standing and endemic problem? 1. The amount of noise that the NTATA cheer squad made about debt and deficit may be what sinks them but the poor economic performance of the left is a complete fiction in any case. 2. http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2014/10/29/australias-jobless-hotspots-suburb-rank/
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 02:06 |
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Kind of interesting looking at the abc graph under different splits. Interesting but predictable.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 02:24 |
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quote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-29/modern-day-mutiny-as-norfolk-islanders-fight-australian-takeover/7369434
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 02:50 |
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No taxes! Representation!
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 02:55 |
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The NBN would be a bigger issue if it hadnt already been totally hosed by LNP/Mal-comms minister turnbull. Everyone is in not-mad-just-disappointed dad mode now and hasnt got the energy to give a poo poo.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 03:01 |
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quote:Turnbull rejects New Zealand offer to take 150 refugees from detention
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 03:30 |
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If Australia is not responsible for Asylum Seekers on Manus why are they able to veto any offers to take them 🤔
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 03:34 |
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"Psst! Hey I heard that if you're lucky enough and can stand being tortured for years at a time that the supreme court of the country you're staying in might declare your imprisonment illegal and you'll get to settle in New Zealand. Get in quick, this loophole may only last as long as pacific island nations have internal problems with income inequality in part due to the higher wages local guards are paid at the centres creating resentment within the community." Catchy marketing tool.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 03:46 |
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The argument was that if people are settled in NZ they will gain the right to live in Australia, which is kind of arrogant when you think about it.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 03:49 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:The argument was that if people are settled in NZ they will gain the right to live in Australia, which is kind of arrogant when you think about it. And completely undermines their crocodile tears about deaths at sea.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 03:52 |
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Ehh, they'd just say that people smuggling means deaths at sea, so if you give the people smugglers something to use for marketing then more deaths at sea will occur. I do wonder how they can refuse New Zealand's offer to settle them though? I guess they just refused to cooperate and New Zealand isn't interested in granting them asylum unilaterally.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:00 |
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Turnbull is now Jim from Utopia in my mind.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:04 |
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asio posted:Chris Bowen trimmed his beard and it looks worse now It looks like poo
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:17 |
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The Tampa people went to New Zealand. They probably say fush and chups now.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:18 |
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MiniSune posted:
Without context this sounds loving hilarious. Like some half-remembered conservative's bad dream. "...and then the transvestites grew wings and chased me and cursed Jesus. And then one of the chocolate penises tried to bite me."
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:28 |
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open24hours posted:I do wonder how they can refuse New Zealand's offer to settle them though? I guess they just refused to cooperate and New Zealand isn't interested in granting them asylum unilaterally. It's because NZ is a developed country and asylum seekers should not be allowed to settle in a developed country.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:39 |
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That's why they don't want them to go there sure, the question was more about how they can be detained without charge. If they were stateless and didn't have the right to live in any other country you might be able to argue that there's no other option, but that would fall apart if NZ gave them residency.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:43 |
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They can be detained without charge because Australia is full of racists.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:46 |
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The thing I like most about Australia is how accepting and open people are towards other cultures
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:05 |
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If it's easy enough for people smugglers to trick Asylum seekers into thinking that the resettlement of Manus Island detainees in New Zealand opens up a pathway for them to also get New Zealand residency then it's easy enough for them to trick them even if we don't resettle the Manus Island detainees.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:34 |
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Before news of the man's death broke on Friday, Mr Dutton said Nauru, a remote location where his government has forcibly detained refugees and asylum seekers, was "4500 kilometres from Australia, it is not as if we're heading out to Bondi or Beenleigh to try and pick up somebody ... it is a long distance involved." Maybe...maybe don't lock people up in your care 4500 kilometers away from Australian hospitals if you don't have an emergency evac plan for critical circumstances?
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:45 |
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Maybe don't set fire to yourself if you're 4500 km from a good burns unit
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:47 |
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itt a three year old questions the motivation behind self harm for a rational actor
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:53 |
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There are no rational actors it is a myth perpetuated by economists
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:55 |
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Negligent posted:There are no rational actors it is a myth perpetuated by economists and yet here you are, using its premise to question why a person would light themselves on fire
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:56 |
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Who's the more hosed up? The Three Year old or the person arguing with the Three Year old?
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 06:00 |
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Cartoon posted:Who's the more hosed up? The Three Year old or the person arguing with the Three Year old? It's not a rational decision, it is a manifestation of the trauma inflicted by reading this thread
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 06:02 |
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He was probably coached to self harm by refugee " advocates "
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 06:03 |
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Solemn Sloth posted:It's not a rational decision, it is a manifestation of the trauma inflicted by reading this thread As good a time as any to ask who is perpetrating the next and hopefully final abomination of a thread.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 06:05 |
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Cartoon posted:Touche. doc spaceman called it a while ago iirc
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 06:11 |
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Birdstrike posted:doc spaceman called it a while ago iirc Yeah, still happy to do it.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 06:36 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:33 |
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For May Auspol can The Arts Party get a shoutout in the OP. They're currently running a pozible campaign ending 11 May for just $35,000 http://www.pozible.com/project/204920 to pay for AEC registrations and campaign funds, which is basically nothing in election terms. (Disclosure I'm a lay member, but not one of the organisers).
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