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Joey Freshwater posted:Hahaha what the gently caress is this Ok
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I don't care much for the whites.
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Apr 28, 2016 17:05
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Denzel Washington didn't want to kiss Julia Roberts in The Pelican Brief. He later said it was specifically in order to cater to oldpainless' taste. The right choice imo.
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Apr 28, 2016 17:09
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MariusLecter posted:I don't care much for the whites. Mods?!?!
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Apr 28, 2016 17:32
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Joey Freshwater posted:Hahaha what the gently caress is this He's quoting the "reasonable Hitler" cartoon.
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Apr 28, 2016 17:44
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Jedit posted:He's quoting the "reasonable Hitler" cartoon. Oh. Well it looks like we all learned something about ourselves here today.
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Apr 28, 2016 17:55
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If you took oldpainless at face value you might actually have serious learning difficulties. In the first season of Vikings the King of Northumbria has a snake pit and he mentions introducing the raiding vikings to the snakes but he only ever throws his own man into the snake pit. There's even a scene where he gives the vikings a fake chest of gold but it just turns out to be empty, he could have put loads of pissed off snakes in there.
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Apr 28, 2016 18:01
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Sounds like the King of Northumbria is a real prankster.
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Apr 28, 2016 20:10
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EmmyOk posted:If you took oldpainless at face value you might actually have serious learning difficulties. The snake pit was an attempted callback to historical myth, which says Ragnar Lodbrook was caught by the king of Northumbria and executed by being tossed into a snake pit.
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Apr 29, 2016 00:57
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Joey Freshwater posted:Hahaha what the gently caress is this *Whooosh* Edit: Forgot to refresh and see a new page.
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Oh that's cool! My mistake then. I heard the show is loosely based around viking legends about a guy called Ragnar. Considering it's on the third season or so I have avoided googling anything till I catch up.
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EmmyOk posted:Oh that's cool! My mistake then. I heard the show is loosely based around viking legends about a guy called Ragnar. Considering it's on the third season or so I have avoided googling anything till I catch up. I didn't know until I did some show inspired reading. Apparently all of Ragnar's sons had fairly well documented lives, but the man himself is fairly apocryphal, so the show can take a lot of liberties.
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Apr 29, 2016 01:18
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MariusLecter posted:I don't care much for the whites. I'm OK with them so long as they don't kiss and make out with the blacks. I'm still scarred by Monster's Ball.
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Ivar the Boneless is a lot cooler than his dad but I think he's a was a tiny cripple baby in the show last time I checked.
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Netflix and Chill vs. Predator Netflix and Kill would be a good name for a horror movie about a haunted couch or something.
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QUACKTASTIC posted:Netflix and Kill would be a good name for a horror movie about a haunted couch or something. Or a posessed TV.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm OK with them so long as they don't kiss and make out with the blacks. I'm still scarred by Monster's Ball. Hollywood racism is a little more varied than no black and white actors kissing, instead it is both racist and sexist. See, white men can kiss anyone they want, black men can kiss anyone they want as long as it isn't a white woman and white women can only kiss white men.
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Apr 29, 2016 12:12
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muscles like this? posted:Hollywood racism is a little more varied than no black and white actors kissing, instead it is both racist and sexist. See, white men can kiss anyone they want, black men can kiss anyone they want as long as it isn't a white woman and white women can only kiss white men. Can white men kiss black men?
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Slime posted:Can white men kiss black men? Only when the black man is really Adam Sandler in blackface and the scene is about how pretending to be gay is, like, super-funny.
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I stopped watching Sleepy Hollow about the time they revealed another horseman of the apocalypse was the main guy's son? But he turned evil because he had some haunted teddy bear monster and his parents were both gone? Sounds like the show went the way of Once Upon a Time. Hey, did you know Peter Pan is Rumplestilkin's dad? And Robin Hood is totally married to the Wicked Witch of the West, who is the half sister of Snow White's Evil Stepmother? And the Frozen princesses have an aunt with ice powers that freezes the entire place and then later turns everyone evil? And for some reason loving Victor Frankenstein is there too. And Maleficent was a mother whose baby was stolen and then the baby turned evil and came back? At some point the writers need to stop stealing material from Fanfiction.net.
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muscles like this? posted:Hollywood racism is a little more varied than no black and white actors kissing, instead it is both racist and sexist. See, white men can kiss anyone they want, black men can kiss anyone they want as long as it isn't a white woman and white women can only kiss white men. And asian men can lurk on the internet posting greasy awkward screeds about how Hollywood needs more asian dudes making out with white women because
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Guy Mann posted:And asian men can lurk on the internet posting greasy awkward screeds about how Hollywood needs more asian dudes making out with For a while I was thinking Jet Li & Aaliyah in Romeo Must Die was one of the few movies where there was a romantic moment featuring an Asian male lead, but... Wikipedia posted:According to the documentary The Slanted Screen, Han and Trish were supposed to have a kissing scene, which explains the title of Romeo, but this was met with derision from a pre-screening with an urban audience.[3] Jet Li stated on his personal website that they had filmed both versions of the scene (with kiss and without), and decided to use the one without instead because it would be "somewhat strange and awkward" for Han to have witnessed his father's suicide and then to come out and kiss someone.[4] Upon thinking on it, I realize the last movies I saw where an Asian male lead gets the girl are the Harold & Kumar movies.
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Android Bicyclist posted:For a while I was thinking Jet Li & Aaliyah in Romeo Must Die was one of the few movies where there was a romantic moment featuring an Asian male lead, but... Yeah according to Hollywood the aversion is so intense that there's no way you can sell the movie/series unless it follows muscles like this?'s observation. At least there are now some addenda: An Asian man can be cool and capable, but not masculine & sexy. So when Steven Yeun (Glenn) first showed up in Walking Dead his character is this weird Tokyo Drift goofball character, but now he's a badass dude who has an actual relationship with a white woman. There were literal articles about the "implications" about their first kiss. Also I thought I remembered Denzel kissing Kelly Oreilly in Flight but I guess not.
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Android Bicyclist posted:Upon thinking on it, I realize the last movies I saw where an Asian male lead gets the girl are the Harold & Kumar movies. And even then, she's not white. On TV there's Glenn and Maggie on Walking Dead. Additionally Will Smith is mostly immune from those rules. Aphrodite has a new favorite as of 04:15 on Apr 30, 2016 |
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Apr 30, 2016 04:13
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Android Bicyclist posted:For a while I was thinking Jet Li & Aaliyah in Romeo Must Die was one of the few movies where there was a romantic moment featuring an Asian male lead, but... Even as a teenager the ending of that movie bugged the hell out of me. Why even call it Romeo Must Die if the two leads don't share one romantic moment together? Test audiences are the worst.
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I wonder how the new Star Wars trilogy is going to play into all this. In TFA, they were clearly setting Rey and Finn up for a romance, but fan feedback apparently was overwhelmingly in favor of a Finn and Poe relationship instead. How transgressive is a homosexual black/latino relationship compared to a hetro black/white?
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Canemacar posted:I wonder how the new Star Wars trilogy is going to play into all this. In TFA, they were clearly setting Rey and Finn up for a romance, but fan feedback apparently was overwhelmingly in favor of a Finn and Poe relationship instead. How transgressive is a homosexual black/latino relationship compared to a hetro black/white? Probably homosexuality overrides any race of the parties. Black/white hetero depends on who's the man/woman. Black man on white woman is the worst "obviously". White man on black woman is fine, "obviously". Gay supporting characters need to not be too attractive and/or masculine. Goofy/sissy gays are fine. Basically imagine the default white heterosexual christian conservative man. Would he be uncomfortable by watching that couple? If you're not sure, he probably would be. Better to err on the side of caution. R-rated. The only way a non-white/non-straight man gets a kiss in a Hollywood scene is by being non-threatening to white dudes. Black guys can't be too athletic, asian dudes have to be nerdy as hell. Like it's a mix of playing against/towards stereotypes. Playing away from the bland white "everyman" stereotype.
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Android Bicyclist posted:Upon thinking on it, I realize the last movies I saw where an Asian male lead gets the girl are the Harold & Kumar movies. Upon thinking about it, the last movie I saw where there was an Asian male lead and he didn't do kung fu was Harold and Kumar. See also: Scarjo in the Shell.
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And then Netflix and Marvel put out Jessica Jones and the first third of the series features a lot of black man / white woman loving. I guess it's not Hollywood if it's tv?
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It's not that it doesn't happen, just high profile examples are disturbingly rare. I feel like Netflix and amazon and their subscription model make it easier to take risks because people are paying for it even if they don't watch it.
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The Fast and Furious movies can be surprisingly diverse and stereotype-breaking, especially the more recent ones. The main actor is mixed-race (even if his character is implied to be just Italian) and he has a romance with a Latina girl. The techie/hacker guy isn't Asian, or nerdy or awkward, but black and totally chill personality-wise - and he can also hold his own as a badass in non-techie scenarios. The other black guy on the team is buff, but instead of being an rear end-kickin' tough guy, he's kind of a scaredy cat who is just obsessed with his appearance and fashion. The Asian guy isn't a genius, or a martial arts expert, but is the cool dude / smooth-talker on the team, and has a romance with a white woman. The series is certainly not progressive in ALL ways, but I'm impressed with the little tweaks to the standard Hollywood character formulas.Lotish posted:And then Netflix and Marvel put out Jessica Jones and the first third of the series features a lot of black man / white woman loving. I guess it's not Hollywood if it's tv? I don't really know the economics of it, but I have to imagine that a series on a subscription streaming service has wildly different metrics for success than movies that people actually need to go out to a theater and buy tickets for.
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I was just watching some movie called "Echelon Conspiracy", and aside from the fact that it was just a ripoff of every other prior "government computer develops a mind of its own" movie, it had a blatant use of one of the most irritating things in movies like that. If someone has an earpiece in, no matter whether it's supposed to be covert (as it was in this case) or otherwise, they always touch it with their finger when they're receiving a message. You know you're being watched by cameras everywhere you idiot, stop touching it. He had just gotten in trouble with casino security for having a cellphone out, and he thinks sticking his finger in his ear every couple minutes is going to be less suspicious?
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If I had such an earpiece I would stick my finger in my other ear so I could hear the guy on the earpiece better. YES HELLO? SPEAK UP, I'M IN A GUNFIGHT RIGHT NOW!
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Patattack posted:The Fast and Furious movies can be surprisingly diverse and stereotype-breaking, especially the more recent ones. The main actor is mixed-race (even if his character is implied to be just Italian) and he has a romance with a Latina girl. The techie/hacker guy isn't Asian, or nerdy or awkward, but black and totally chill personality-wise - and he can also hold his own as a badass in non-techie scenarios. The other black guy on the team is buff, but instead of being an rear end-kickin' tough guy, he's kind of a scaredy cat who is just obsessed with his appearance and fashion. The Asian guy isn't a genius, or a martial arts expert, but is the cool dude / smooth-talker on the team, and has a romance with a white woman. The series is certainly not progressive in ALL ways, but I'm impressed with the little tweaks to the standard Hollywood character formulas. Leverage had quite a bit of this as well, and even though the relationship between the black man and the white woman was mostly implied, there was an episode specifically about mixed race dating in the past compared to now.
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There were several episodes in scrubs that called out Turk and Carla's relationship as being interracial as well, but the difference between 'white hispanic' and 'white white' in hollywood is pretty big.
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If you watched The Force Awakens and walked out thinking Finn and Rey are gonna hook up you should turn in your movie analysis card pronto.
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Biplane posted:If you watched The Force Awakens and walked out thinking Finn and Rey are gonna hook up you should turn in your movie analysis card pronto. There have been movie romances that made a lot less sense than Finn and Rey. There's no way they are going to give in to "fan demand" and do the Finn/Poe thing. The ones who want it are going to watch anything with the Star Wars label on it anyway, but there are people who will not watch it that would have watched it otherwise if they "dare" to insert a prominent homosexual relationship. Movies (or at least, this type of movie) are about making as much money as possible, they'll never do it.
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Biplane posted:If you watched The Force Awakens and walked out thinking Finn and Rey are gonna hook up you should turn in your movie analysis card pronto. I mean, this is the same movie series that has siblings making out, so let's not count anything out yet. Watch them do a poly Finn-Rey-Po relationship and Tumblr collapse in on itself under the weight of all the new fanfiction.
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Murphy Brownback posted:There have been movie romances that made a lot less sense than Finn and Rey. There's no way they are going to give in to "fan demand" and do the Finn/Poe thing. The ones who want it are going to watch anything with the Star Wars label on it anyway, but there are people who will not watch it that would have watched it otherwise if they "dare" to insert a prominent homosexual relationship. Movies (or at least, this type of movie) are about making as much money as possible, they'll never do it. Did we watch the same movie? Finn and Poe's meetup at the rebel base? Every single encounter they have together? It was all so different from any Finn and Rey scenes. Honestly I would be blown away if Finn and Poe don't end up getting gay-space-married.
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