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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


klugman posted:

you can find the actual album in MP3 (possibly FLAC too) format online. Search for Dune Spice Opera Exxos
I have that. I also really like the Soundblaster soundtrack though.

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Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

Dr. Quarex posted:

I could talk about the Demoscene every day for the rest of my life, but I swear any efforts made to create a thread somewhere have always failed over the years.

Speaking of the demo scene, there is a demo I have been trying to locate for years. It would be old enough that three-dimensional graphics were still pretty awesome just by virtue of existing, and everything 3d on a computer was obviously made out of blocks. I don't remember the group who made it, and I don't remember the competition it showed up in, if any. The gist of it is that you're peeking in on this wonderful scene of an idyllic little town (I think), possibly in the midst of some celebration. The camera flies around while mellow music plays, and eventually we reach the heart of the scene, which is two figures ice-skating. It turns out the whole thing is taking place in a music box.

I may be mis-remembering a lot of that, but there were definitely ice-skaters* and mellow music. I'm pretty sure there was a really nice fade-in and fade-out, too.

* Unless they were dancers. They might have been dancers. Probably dancers.


Computer viking posted:

I have at least once fired up a virtualbox VM solely to run a keygen.

Let me help you help yourself: http://www.sandboxie.com/

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot

oh hell yes i have been trying to remember the name of this for ages. this thread owns

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Centripetal Horse posted:

Speaking of the demo scene, there is a demo I have been trying to locate for years. It would be old enough that three-dimensional graphics were still pretty awesome just by virtue of existing, and everything 3d on a computer was obviously made out of blocks. I don't remember the group who made it, and I don't remember the competition it showed up in, if any. The gist of it is that you're peeking in on this wonderful scene of an idyllic little town (I think), possibly in the midst of some celebration. The camera flies around while mellow music plays, and eventually we reach the heart of the scene, which is two figures ice-skating. It turns out the whole thing is taking place in a music box.

I may be mis-remembering a lot of that, but there were definitely ice-skaters* and mellow music. I'm pretty sure there was a really nice fade-in and fade-out, too.


I'm kind of a scene buff but your description doesn't really ring a bell. Was it for MS-DOS, Amiga or etc?

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
Okay you tracker music dorks help me out

Ages and ages ago I remember a website that had a ton of tracker songs on it, and I want to say the format of the site was like browsing a file system? I want to say it was styled like black background / green text and UI, and you'd just poke around folders and stuff and it had lists of tracker songs.

I'm going through The Mod Archive right now but I wish I could find that old site again I really liked it for some reason

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Centripetal Horse posted:

Speaking of the demo scene, there is a demo I have been trying to locate for years. It would be old enough that three-dimensional graphics were still pretty awesome just by virtue of existing, and everything 3d on a computer was obviously made out of blocks. I don't remember the group who made it, and I don't remember the competition it showed up in, if any. The gist of it is that you're peeking in on this wonderful scene of an idyllic little town (I think), possibly in the midst of some celebration. The camera flies around while mellow music plays, and eventually we reach the heart of the scene, which is two figures ice-skating. It turns out the whole thing is taking place in a music box.

I may be mis-remembering a lot of that, but there were definitely ice-skaters* and mellow music. I'm pretty sure there was a really nice fade-in and fade-out, too.

* Unless they were dancers. They might have been dancers. Probably dancers.

At first your description reminded me of fr-08: .the .product by farbrausch (this was originally a 64k .exe and I loved the gently caress out of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3n3c_8Nn2Y

Another favourite - this poo poo blew my mind they could do these sorts of graphics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBpo5GHcmsE

And have to just link this cos well, someone will complain about it being NSFW, won 64k of the year when it was released:
https://youtu.be/svGk_pF67gc

(I was a huge Farbrauch fanboy).

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
just wanted to say java is still used a ton at the company i work at and it costs a fortune to run any of that bullshit in THE CLOUD over just about any other type of application. gently caress oracle indeed.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Mak0rz posted:

I remember searching for/downloading no-CD cracks and trainers for various games and being in a cold sweat the entire time like I was defusing a bomb.

I wasn't smart enough to be nervous about it, although I guess I ran McAfee, F-Prot or ThunderByte Anti-Virus over them. I suppose I wasn't downloading no-CD cracks because not much stuff came on CDs back in the days I was downloading trainers for stuff like Wolfenstein 3-D.

Jerry Cotton posted:

I remember buying games.

Same, also remember selling them :cry:

Stick Insect posted:

Probably the first PC game I was able to do multiplayer with, as it had a two-player mode where each player got to use one side of the keyboard.

Please tell me you're just forgetting Scorched Earth.

RACE! was pretty good for this too, top-down CGA game supporting 1-4 players, track editor, released in 1989:




That's cool, but I don't want to have to pay for it, and if I :filez:'d it then there'd be this sort of chicken and egg problem :v:

Edit:

thathonkey posted:

just wanted to say java is still used a ton at the company i work at and it costs a fortune to run any of that bullshit in THE CLOUD

:lol: I never thought of that, "Oh so you want to run an application that requires about 10x the amount of RAM that it would if it wasn't written in Java? Sure sign here for our super jumbo cloud offering." :homebrew:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Buttcoin purse posted:


That's cool, but I don't want to have to pay for it, and if I :filez:'d it then there'd be this sort of chicken and egg problem :v:



Hmm all these years I thought sandboxie was free. Haven't used it personally though.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

thathonkey posted:

just wanted to say java is still used a ton at the company i work at and it costs a fortune to run any of that bullshit in THE CLOUD over just about any other type of application. gently caress oracle indeed.
I work for a Fortune 500 company that is squarely in the 1-100 tier.

Our loving TIMECLOCK relies on Java in addition to our product ordering/billing metrics.

I guess Java had some kind of major security hole cataclysm a few weeks back that made the news? Well, our Enterprise system relies heavily on Java and as of then it still hasn't recovered from it because our IT deployment department is still 3 versions behind the curve on anything.

I'd like to think I could move up into IT at my company and make sweeping improvements but I think our entire system is held together with chewing gum and bailing wire because it certainly acts as if it is.

Kinda like how if you want a IT job with the IRS... you MUST know Pascal and Fortran because that's how far behind the curve they are.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
that's pretty common at large companies. they have "old" systems that are functional but are starting to cost more and more to train and maintain but it takes a while for those costs to mount to a point where it's actually worth investing in a replacement system.

ive worked at a major cable company a while back and their main production provisioning system for actual customers was this old monolithic MSDOS program with no mouse support. good stuff. this was maybe 6-7 years ago now but i highly doubt theyve replaced it because it would cost a loving fortune to recreate something that big and important. when i worked there they gave me a dedicated laptop for running the MSDOS program and then another laptop that had IE6 installed so that I could access some old website that was also mission critical to their business.

this move to cloud is actually starting to put a spotlight on some of the high costs of running these old systems though so maybe there will be some more impetus to change

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Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
I work in a very large healthcare system, and we JUST upgraded all PC's to Windows 7. And Internet Explorer 7 is the "newest" browser most users have access to.

Our main software package for doing payroll and ordering general products is so old that it's DOS-based and used to use Telnet for it's connections, but had a minor upgrade for network use. My department just got a software package for tracking the use of medical equipment, and it's so cheap and bad it looks like the type of program a programming student makes for their final class project, assuming said class is occurring around 2003.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Robnoxious posted:


I guess Java had some kind of major security hole cataclysm a few weeks back that made the news?

You could have asked this at any point in the past 10+ years and the answer would be yes

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Robnoxious posted:

I'd like to think I could move up into IT at my company and make sweeping improvements but I think our entire system is held together with chewing gum and bailing wire because it certainly acts as if it is.

Kinda like how if you want a IT job with the IRS... you MUST know Pascal and Fortran because that's how far behind the curve they are.

Yeah, if you think moving into IT in an attempt to change things for the better is a possible reality, stop. Check some of the IT threads and you will see that no matter how much things NEED to be changed and management are told by the experts they hire - nothing will ever change. The corporate world is built on legacy apps. (Also, don't be the Queensland government and hire idiots at a huge rate to update their whole medical system. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...27f9-1461931062

At my current work, which is by no means a fortune x00 company or can have a dedicated IT department - I witnessed a coworked being alarmed that she pushed the update to win10 button and the poor guy who is defacto IT literally jump and slide under her desk to pull the power cable.

(then a week later we got cryptolocker!)

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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I work in a very large healthcare system, and we JUST upgraded all PC's to Windows 7. And Internet Explorer 7 is the "newest" browser most users have access to.

Our main software package for doing payroll and ordering general products is so old that it's DOS-based and used to use Telnet for it's connections, but had a minor upgrade for network use. My department just got a software package for tracking the use of medical equipment, and it's so cheap and bad it looks like the type of program a programming student makes for their final class project, assuming said class is occurring around 2003.

the silver lining is that i yall kind of lucked out by getting stuck on Win 7 though... until MS forces upgrades in a few years at least

IE7 is pretty bad though especially if they wont let you install another browser alongside it (i dunno if any big companies still have policies like this or not)

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Humphreys posted:

I witnessed a coworked being alarmed that she pushed the update to win10 button and the poor guy who is defacto IT literally jump and slide under her desk to pull the power cable.

lmao

but yeah, it's better to accept that the world runs on "old" software. i keep putting old in quotes because old by software standards is not terribly old by any other standard. i do draw the line at not having somewhat modern networking/security and mouse support though.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


LOL we just spent $100 million dollars on a new payroll system and it doesn't work properly so sorry you're not getting paid this week but IBM is.

Who cares about improving the world, it sounds like I could improve my bank balance a lot by working for IBM?

Humphreys posted:

I witnessed a coworked being alarmed that she pushed the update to win10 button and the poor guy who is defacto IT literally jump and slide under her desk to pull the power cable.

That's some good work there! e: He should probably get a job pulling out the power cables from computers at IBM.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

Negrostrike posted:

I'm kind of a scene buff but your description doesn't really ring a bell. Was it for MS-DOS, Amiga or etc?

I'm going to say DOS, although there's a tiny possibility it would run under Windows at the time. It was definitely running on an MS-something operating system.


Humphreys posted:

And have to just link this cos well, someone will complain about it being NSFW, won 64k of the year when it was released:
https://youtu.be/svGk_pF67gc

The 64k demos always blew my tits off. A lot of the contests had huge room for juking your numbers by including external libraries and whatnot, but I'm still amazed at what they made happen in that tiny space. One of my favorites was a loooooong demo of a city crumbling into blocks and swirling away in all kinds of cool sine-wave patterns and whatnot.

Edit: Come to think of it, they may have been Farbrausch, as well.


Buttcoin purse posted:

That's cool, but I don't want to have to pay for it, and if I :filez:'d it then there'd be this sort of chicken and egg problem :v:

Humphreys posted:

Hmm all these years I thought sandboxie was free. Haven't used it personally though.

Sandboxie is free for any reasonable definition of the word "free." There's nothing you're going to want to do with it that will require the commercial license. Ignore the "BUY NOW" buttons, and click "Download."

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Humphreys posted:

At first your description reminded me of fr-08: .the .product by farbrausch (this was originally a 64k .exe and I loved the gently caress out of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3n3c_8Nn2Y

Another favourite - this poo poo blew my mind they could do these sorts of graphics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBpo5GHcmsE

And have to just link this cos well, someone will complain about it being NSFW, won 64k of the year when it was released:
https://youtu.be/svGk_pF67gc

(I was a huge Farbrauch fanboy).

Aw poo poo son, who remembers THE MIND'S EYE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbG34c1qorQ

This series was so indescribably cool at the time.

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

I recently built a new system for someone and the mATX board had both COM and parallel ports, alongside the usual USB3. What the hell good are those interfaces today?


This cheesy Street Fighter 2 Turbo promo vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_e9eOVct6w

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

alphabettitouretti posted:

I recently built a new system for someone and the mATX board had both COM and parallel ports, alongside the usual USB3. What the hell good are those interfaces today?


This cheesy Street Fighter 2 Turbo promo vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_e9eOVct6w

Serial still pops up here and there. Random networking gear, large projectors, arduinos, random lab equipment. It's extremely simple to handle and fast enough for moving text, so there is a small niche. Parallel, though - the only thing I touch that uses it is an ancient but still perfectly good Brady label printer. Those things are expensive, so it'll stay until it eventually dies.

Tyson Tomko
May 8, 2005

The Problem Solver.

Buttcoin purse posted:

Please tell me you're just forgetting Scorched Earth.

I loved the poo poo out of this game! I remember me and my friends being alpha nerds and sneaking our floppies into our grade/high school and playing this on the network. To this day I still don't know if that one stationary tank flying was a secret feature or a bug, but it rocked either way. We just played Scored Earth a few weekends back and I can assure you it's still poo poo tons of fun!

I think technically the first computer game I played multiplayer was Gorillas on QBASIC. Behold pure coolness:

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Data Graham posted:

Aw poo poo son, who remembers THE MIND'S EYE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbG34c1qorQ

This series was so indescribably cool at the time.

I wouldn't even know this existed if it weren't for some dumb Canadian broadcasting convention about minimum commercial time per hour: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Circutz

There's a lot of nostalgia in those videos.

E:

Tyson Tomko posted:

I think technically the first computer game I played multiplayer was Gorillas on QBASIC. Behold pure coolness:



Dang, left gorilla is at a serious disadvantage here. All right gorilla needs to do is send a 999-speed banana rocketing at about 150 degrees. Left gorilla has to arc it.

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r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Humphreys posted:

And have to just link this cos well, someone will complain about it being NSFW, won 64k of the year when it was released:
https://youtu.be/svGk_pF67gc

This thing is so loving good, I still remember when my jaw hit the floor the first time i heard the quality of the voice synth they crammed into 64k along with all those procedural boobs

Tyson Tomko
May 8, 2005

The Problem Solver.

Mak0rz posted:

Dang, left gorilla is at a serious disadvantage here. All right gorilla needs to do is send a 999-speed banana rocketing at about 150 degrees. Left gorilla has to arc it.

Hearing this I am 100% that you are legit and not a poser haha. Blasting a full speed banana was always so drat cool.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Tyson Tomko posted:

Hearing this I am 100% that you are legit and not a poser haha. Blasting a full speed banana was always so drat cool.

:respek:

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Code Jockey posted:

Okay you tracker music dorks help me out

Ages and ages ago I remember a website that had a ton of tracker songs on it, and I want to say the format of the site was like browsing a file system? I want to say it was styled like black background / green text and UI, and you'd just poke around folders and stuff and it had lists of tracker songs.

I'm going through The Mod Archive right now but I wish I could find that old site again I really liked it for some reason
Hello, Tracker Music Dork Prime here

You are (probably?) thinking of Stone Oakvalley's archive, considering it has about 99% of all tracker songs not written by me or one of my friends online:

http://se2a1.bigbox.info/soamc/

Also yes, it is clear we can sustain a Demoscene thread.

8 track betamax posted:

Do it now... this is the time and this is the place. GBS is ready and willing.
AM I A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO CREATE A WORTHWHILE ORIGINAL POST???

Maybe I could just post a few examples of WHAT AM DEMO, HOW ARE MUSIC and links to archives and we can rock and roll from there??? Anyone else want to do it better instead?!??!?!?!?

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
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Lipstick Apathy
I found a sealed copy of the Heat.net Sampler with Plane Crazy on the cover who wants to buy it from me for stupid amounts of money??

it's like 10 bux on ebay so whatever

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Robnoxious posted:

I work for a Fortune 500 company that is squarely in the 1-100 tier.

Our loving TIMECLOCK relies on Java in addition to our product ordering/billing metrics.
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This is not that uncommon or surprising. Java is the herpes of technical dependencies. No one likes it, wants it, or can get rid of it

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I guess Java had some kind of major security hole cataclysm a few weeks back that made the news? Well, our Enterprise system relies heavily on Java and as of then it still hasn't recovered from it because our IT deployment department is still 3 versions behind the curve on anything.

I'd like to think I could move up into IT at my company and make sweeping improvements but I think our entire system is held together with chewing gum and bailing wire because it certainly acts as if it is.

Kinda like how if you want a IT job with the IRS... you MUST know Pascal and Fortran because that's how far behind the curve they are.

Updating Java, or software version gets harder and harder, the larger (and older) your company is because all of the legacy application requirements. Update java to a newer major release and break compatibility with some random application you didn't even know about.

Managment doesn't want to spend money to replace something that is working. They typically don't care about java versions or compatibility issues.

Humphreys posted:

Yeah, if you think moving into IT in an attempt to change things for the better is a possible reality, stop. Check some of the IT threads and you will see that no matter how much things NEED to be changed and management are told by the experts they hire - nothing will ever change. The corporate world is built on legacy apps. (Also, don't be the Queensland government and hire idiots at a huge rate to update their whole medical system. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...27f9-1461931062


My company is medium to large sized, About 6-7 years ago, we purchased 2 other companies. There were 5 different inventory systems in use between the 3 of us. A few years ago we started migrating from those 5 systems to 1 single system. I don't think anyone would say getting on a single inventory management system is a bad thing for a company to do. But I will tell you that it has been one of the hardest migrations I have ever been a part of. We are still not complete, and everything has been a struggle. There is a reason that management is usually happy to chug along on decades old platforms that still work, even if the support cost goes up with time.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Speaking of demos, I kind of want an Atari Falcon030

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpwlZgQPCpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTGnZTDUKd0

There were some really cool home computers around before the PC crushed all competition :(

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
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a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

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Where is the demoscene thread??

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Lowen SoDium posted:

Updating Java, or software version gets harder and harder, the larger (and older) your company is because all of the legacy application requirements. Update java to a newer major release and break compatibility with some random application you didn't even know about.

Managment doesn't want to spend money to replace something that is working. They typically don't care about java versions or compatibility issues.

software is bad it's true and we ahve only ourselves to blame

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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The worst thing about .mods is that for every great sounding piece there's about three billion forgettable ones.

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

Police Automaton posted:

The worst thing about .mods is that for every great sounding piece there's about three billion forgettable ones.

Everyone forgets never winter nights had a ton of mods, even an MMO mod because 90% of them are complete poo poo

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

That's the one. It has aged very well. It looks as good, today, as it did eight or nine years ago when I first saw it. The rows of buildings sliding up and down behind one another, and the freeway diving into the pavement, are still great effects. I didn't think it was as big (ha) as 177k, though.

Also, Farbrausch has their stuff up on Github! That owns.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



theultimo posted:

Everyone forgets never winter nights had a ton of mods, even an MMO mod because 90% of them are complete poo poo

.mod is a music file format.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Pham Nuwen posted:

.mod is a music file format.

Reported for .mod sass. :v:

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


error1 posted:

Speaking of demos, I kind of want an Atari Falcon030

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpwlZgQPCpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTGnZTDUKd0

There were some really cool home computers around before the PC crushed all competition :(

Yep, that's a hell of a machine. The good thing is that they still make demos for these computers to this day, especially Amiga and C64, so they still live on in a way.

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Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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What I noticed in C64 demos lately is how they start looking more and more like some amiga demos looked back then. Well, ok. Kind of. They've come a long way though. Beyond all the talk regarding purism, a lot of things you see in these demos would've never happened without modern technology and the internet. Yes, even the demos on these old machines. Everything is a product of it's time.

Of course C64 demos and amiga demos might not be as exciting visually than some of the PC demos talked about, that's just a given. I still find them more impressive. Anything post-millennium (wow, didn't see that word in a while) runs on machines that are just such behemoths in my mind, it somehow doesn't feel as impressive, even though it still is.

The first amiga demo I saw was state of the art. (Looked it up. No it wasn't. Memory BAD) I'm not gonna link it because I think everyone interested has seen that one at some point. Aged pretty well, still looks/sounds kinda cool. The c64 has too many great sounding/looking demos to even count, especially the recent stuff is impressive.

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