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I was pretty mad when I lost against a guy with Black Knight Sword and Estoc. Seems like the only time poise is useful is if you get a weapon that increases it. That or wearing havel or something. I got a question. I basically did the neutral ending, is there anything for me in the unattended graves? because I sped through that, and while pretty much going "whaaaaat the gently caress is going on??" on everything, it was mostly empty for me.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I have developed a really good pvp strategy of keeping my weight below 30% and rope a doping them into that brief window when they whiff and cannot move or parry I have a video recorded of a 15 minute duel I was involved in, it was hell
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Apr 30, 2016 01:50
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PvP is fun, and if people want to try hard to avoid it, I still have fun, because that's what the game is.
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Fargin Icehole posted:I was pretty mad when I lost against a guy with Black Knight Sword and Estoc. Seems like the only time poise is useful is if you get a weapon that increases it. That or wearing havel or something. Poise is almost completely useless. Not even Havels will help because poise just doesn't do that anymore.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:51
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Well I got my 30 vertebrae being a purple pussy in the swamps (L35/+6weapon). I am terrible and that took forever. Things learned: You can invade the upper swamp while they're pretty much on the ladder down or in the lower swamp. Also this is the best time to use the sleep emote, pop up the UI so you can go to your other monitor without alt-tab and wait for them to run out of regen and moss in a giant poison swamp. You can't Way of the Blue invade into some magical new color combo, you just red invade for tongues. But I guess not everyone knows to use a torch in the graveyard to the Cathedral, so you just annoy people while they bleed to death chasing after you.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:51
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So, I have spent literally this whole week in the Lothric Arena and its the best. I have started recognizing fellow contestants and we have formulated weirdly consistent rules The best one is "Estus = Immediate Disqualification" There were three of us in the bleachers watching a PvP match and the one guy used Estus and we all hopped down and killed him
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Apr 30, 2016 01:51
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hampig posted:We're specifically talking about 1v1, so awww you keep telling yourself how you're fighting the hard fight as a poor red invader buddy The host gets more estus and a health bonus over the invader. In a straight up fight, they do have a pretty nice advantage. Mel Mudkiper posted:The only thing I absolutely cannot stand is being invaded by a PvP build when you are running PvE. The basic longswords being some of the best weapons in the game means most PvE builds work just fine in PvP. But yeah it sucks if you're using some gimmick weapon that is awful for PvP.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:51
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Lothric castle Invasion assessments thus far: Two dudes cosplaying as O+S waiting for invaders. Fun gimmick. Another invader spawned but not quick enough to matter. Smough got axed quickly, Ornstein and I had a good tete-a-tete until he fled to the Dragonslayer elevator, presumably for some breathing room. I just managed to make it on behind him and we manfought, exchanging blows. I had less hp and bit it. Good fight, would invade again. Roy Batty. Evidenced no android characteristics, but a good honest scrap. Would invade again. Person with irithyll straight sword and basic knight starting gear: "I'm sorry"
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Apr 30, 2016 01:52
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Fister Roboto posted:That doesn't really answer why they're empty suits of armor. Brutal executions usually leave a corpse. Eh. The ones who didn't later become undead wouldn't leave behind much given enough time. Most of the suits are posed like dudes who got trashed or collapsed from exhaustion so I'm still betting the implication is the winged knight got 'em, at least the mound of bodies he's patrolling anyway.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:52
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Mel Mudkiper posted:So, I have spent literally this whole week in the Lothric Arena and its the best. Blue estus isn't cool to use either, I pop a yellow every time they pop a blue lol
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Apr 30, 2016 01:54
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My favorite thing about Nameless King is how he instantly kills you if you miss time a single dodge
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Apr 30, 2016 01:54
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So the King of the Storm's fly-up-and-breathe-fire move is undodgeable, right?
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Apr 30, 2016 01:56
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Glenn_Beckett posted:My favorite thing about Nameless King is how he instantly kills you if you miss time a single dodge With Ember, 30% Physical/Lightning, and around 23 VIG, I was able to survive 2-3 hits, depending on which ones they were. Get a Lothric Knight Shield and upgrade it to +6 or +7 and block attacks that you're unsure of the timing on. Harrow posted:So the King of the Storm's fly-up-and-breathe-fire move is undodgeable, right? You can dodge it, but the ticks are too fast to have complete invincibility. Just run straight away from him when you see him flap up.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:56
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Babe Magnet posted:Blue estus isn't cool to use either, I pop a yellow every time they pop a blue lol Wait seriously? What are Pyromancers / Sorcerers supposed to do then? They only get 2 shots compared to your infinite shotting gently caress off spear that shoots lightning.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:56
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Babe Magnet posted:work on your abilities, homie pressing l2 is not a matter of ability, but of latency
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Apr 30, 2016 01:57
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Turtlicious posted:Wait seriously? Babe Magnet posted:Change your build if you want to spam homing soulmass until you win your little war of attrition.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:58
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So is Barbed Straight Sword going to be the best option for a straight sword build or would it be worthwhile to do some luck and rock Anri's?
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Apr 30, 2016 01:58
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Babe Magnet posted:Blue estus isn't cool to use either, I pop a yellow every time they pop a blue lol Really all Estus is bullshit for PVP If it were slower, sure. But right now its so fast that it just meaninglessly prolongs fights and unfairly benefits the host over the phantom
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Apr 30, 2016 01:58
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GulagDolls posted:pressing l2 is not a matter of ability, but of latency Get a Caestus and just mash R2 as fast as possible when you start getting Estoc spammed. It will usually come out by the third hit and is almost guaranteed to parry.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:59
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Harrow posted:So the King of the Storm's fly-up-and-breathe-fire move is undodgeable, right? The animation is really distinct and the tail hangs vertical without swaying. So If you see the tail straight down and feather-whatevers doing a fan flap, just sprint away so the tail stays in the middle of your screen and it should miss. Then as soon as it ends, you can probably run back and get a whack in around landing.
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Apr 30, 2016 01:59
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Why don't you try staying in their face so they can't cast then? Mages have a hard enough time as it is.
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Apr 30, 2016 02:00
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Harrow posted:So the King of the Storm's fly-up-and-breathe-fire move is undodgeable, right? Yeah, its also impossible to dodge if he has already started the animation You're only chance is to listen to the audio cue
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Apr 30, 2016 02:00
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If you're running out of FP so fast, there's a lot of ways to help with that! - Don't constantly spam your gigantic ridiculous moves, especially if they're easy to dodge - Get an FP recovery infusion on a piece of equipment, since 1 FP is the exact same thing as 10000 FP when it comes to casting a single spell - Maybe learn how to fight with a weapon. Get a straight sword or something Internet Kraken posted:Why don't you try staying in their face so they can't cast then? Mages have a hard enough time as it is. I do! I've killed a lot of sorcerers going for sips.
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Apr 30, 2016 02:01
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Vermain posted:Get a Caestus and just mash R2 as fast as possible when you start getting Estoc spammed. It will usually come out by the third hit and is almost guaranteed to parry. maybe it's different with small shields and caestus. pressing l2 in the middle of estoc spam poo poo with a medium shield has never flied for me. the animation just doesn't happen.
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Apr 30, 2016 02:01
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I wish there were more sorcerers in PvP They are like little pin cushions to stick my rapier in
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Apr 30, 2016 02:02
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Man curved greatswords suck in this one, and they share the same problem most weapon types do in 3, they all have the same god drat moveset. All the weapons and spells in this game are so crap, at least 2 had a lot of awesome poo poo to use.
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Apr 30, 2016 02:02
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GulagDolls posted:maybe it's different with small shields and caestus. pressing l2 in the middle of estoc spam poo poo with a medium shield has never flied for me. the animation just doesn't happen. That's because both medium and small shields have startup frames, which the Estoc is usually able to interrupt. Caestus has almost no startup frames, meaning that you are usually guaranteed to get it off in the middle of the spam. Jaaam posted:Man curved greatswords suck in this one, and they share the same problem most weapon types do in 3, they all have the same god drat moveset. All the weapons and spells in this game are so crap, at least 2 had a lot of awesome poo poo to use. Exile Greatsword is hands down one of the best PVP weapons if you know how to combo with it properly, and is still perfectly good in PVE.
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Babe Magnet posted:If you're running out of FP so fast, there's a lot of ways to help with that! I dunno. I've PvPed a fuckton and I have never played a caster. That being said, I don't really care if they use a blue estus. They're more than welcome to. It's way easy to punish and they never hit me with spells anyways. 
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Andrigaar posted:The animation is really distinct and the tail hangs vertical without swaying. So If you see the tail straight down and feather-whatevers doing a fan flap, just sprint away so the tail stays in the middle of your screen and it should miss. I can't tell which direction is the right one to run towards once he starts flying so I just keep getting roasted every time. Then I make it to phase 2 with 3 Estus.
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Harrow posted:I can't tell which direction is the right one to run towards once he starts flying so I just keep getting roasted every time. Then I make it to phase 2 with 3 Estus. Run in the opposite direction of the tail. If you start seeing flames approaching your character, start rolling to avoid getting clipped.
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I mean its pretty silly to act like mages don't know how to fight properly when using magic in this game is actually harder than just going with sword and board. In terms of PvP its not like its even hard to dodge in a 1v1. Magic was so prevalent in DS2 that my favorite invader used vow of silence to make all the hexers that could only spam their spells miserable. I was planning on doing the same in DS3, but magic is so mediocre here that it wouldn't even be fun. It would be like kicking a crippled kid. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Apr 30, 2016 |
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Apr 30, 2016 02:06
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So you basically do Pyromancy for the first half of the game, get 60 int, 30 faith then go sorcery? When does Sorcery outscale pyromancy? Which Miracle spells don't suck? Someone give me the scrublord's guide to sorcery please.
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Apr 30, 2016 02:07
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Internet Kraken posted:I mean its pretty silly to act like mages don't know how to fight properly when using magic in this game is actually harder than just going with sword and board. In terms of PvP its not like its even hard to dodge in a 1v1. how else am i supposed to increase my e-peen girth???
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Jaaam posted:Man curved greatswords suck in this one, and they share the same problem most weapon types do in 3, they all have the same god drat moveset. All the weapons and spells in this game are so crap, at least 2 had a lot of awesome poo poo to use. I do agree 2 had the best PvP of the entire series but a lot of the weapon diversity came from DLC which DSIII doesn't have yet
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Harrow posted:So the King of the Storm's fly-up-and-breathe-fire move is undodgeable, right? Stand in front of the head, not underneath him. All his moves except like, one, have big wind ups and tells. The fly up fire breath is very obvious- there's a shriek and he goes straight up. If you're underneath you're probably hosed but if you're by the head you'll be fine, just run or roll backwards. His other real flying move he takes off to his right/your left- it's very obvious, and he starts circling while charging up a lightning spear, then he does a swoop attack before landing. It's always the same direction, speed and distance, so once you know what to look for it's very easy to track him, dodge, and then be where he lands to get free hits in. He's got an attack where he hops up and lunges forward, it's pretty quick so watch out for that one, but I think there's a short shriek as a warning. He's also got the wind wall attack but I'm pretty sure he only does that if you're real far away, and it's easy to dodge through. Finally he can just take off and reposition behind you (if you're facing his head), but again it's always the same direction and distance so you'll get an idea of where he's going to be and can sprint to meet him there for a free hit, although sometimes the rider will start an attack as soon as he lands. I actually started to really like the King of Storms fight once I figured out the trick (stand by head, don't lock on). Good thing, too, because Nameless kicked my rear end in all three of NG, NG+ and NG++. e; I have a video of beating it in NG++ without getting hit. I'll probably upload that, I guess, so people can get an idea? Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Apr 30, 2016 |
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Internet Kraken posted:I mean its pretty silly to act like mages don't know how to fight properly when using magic in this game is actually harder than just going with sword and board. In terms of PvP its not like its even hard to dodge in a 1v1. No one said Mages can't fight properly I said its fun to stab them because their build is super weak to DEX
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Okay, I can get through phase 1 without getting hit now. Phase 2, though? Nope. Nope nope nope never gonna happen. On my very first attempt I actually got him down to about four hits left and now I can't even land four hits.
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Damnit, died to Wolnir in ng+ and got cocky on the run back, rip those 400k souls. Was hoping to use 'em to buy a poo poo load of upgrade mats when I got the ability to purchase them, oh well. e: For anyone that liks PVP, at least once do a ng+ run where you got the way of the blue on, and use the dried finger but don't summon. Constant 2v2s and you help your older blue bros out. For more fun use the Seed of Giants.
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It's easy to dodge the drake's up and breath fire move, just start rolling directly away from it instead of sprinting. Any chance of getting hit will be mitigated by the i-frames.
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